sandman Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 i think shorter handlebars make a rider go faster.. scientific really.. kinda like the fastest way around a racetrack is on the inside line.. long handlebars make a rider go slower because it takes more time to wrestle with em.. shorter handlebars look faster standing still but long handlebars are more impressive to see a rider struggling with while riding.. i dunno.. just a thought.. where the hell is jj? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 i think shorter handlebars make a rider go faster.. scientific really.. kinda like the fastest way around a racetrack is on the inside line.. long handlebars make a rider go slower because it takes more time to wrestle with em.. shorter handlebars look faster standing still but long handlebars are more impressive to see a rider struggling with while riding.. i dunno.. just a thought.. where the hell is jj? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Is that like drinking shorts rather than long drinks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 I hope this isn't going to go the same way as Handlebars parts one and two? Where have you been Sandman? Got caught up in a storm somewhere? I was really worried - not about you but the assorted pets you have on board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman Posted July 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 I hope this isn't going to go the same way as Handlebars parts one and two? Where have you been Sandman? Got caught up in a storm somewhere? I was really worried - not about you but the assorted pets you have on board. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> you talkin bout Rats Gem??? bastards are still here.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman Posted July 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 (edited) Is that like drinking shorts rather than long drinks? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i think yer catchin on TC.. but... yer not there yet son... Edited July 22, 2005 by sandman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom House Kid Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Over to you dick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 .... Hope it's not going to kick off while I'm on holiday so I miss it. ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinkox Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 i think shorter handlebars make a rider go faster.. scientific really.. kinda like the fastest way around a racetrack is on the inside line.. long handlebars make a rider go slower because it takes more time to wrestle with em.. shorter handlebars look faster standing still but long handlebars are more impressive to see a rider struggling with while riding.. i dunno.. just a thought.. where the hell is jj? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i think . . . shorter handlebars would mean you would get less warning and need more strength to handle a sudden grippy moment in a corner. the inside line is the shortest line round a race track - which line do you think Mr Gollob thinks is the fastest?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Blanchard Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 I am not going to comment on this and claim the fifth. -Though- Get your specs focussed on this lot. Roll on a renaissance of handlebars. A prize for the correct: Date, event, riders (all) including the arm & leg of the rider on the extreme left. Get your Handlebars here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinkox Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 re photo . . . the tracks must have been wider then not a jawa in sight . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucket Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 As I tell my wife, size doesn't matter to the overall performance and she points out the bigger the better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom House Kid Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 I am not going to comment on this and claim the fifth. -Though- Get your specs focussed on this lot. Roll on a renaissance of handlebars. A prize for the correct: Date, event, riders (all) including the arm & leg of the rider on the extreme left. Get your Handlebars here <{POST_SNAPBACK}> England 64 Australasia 44 (Hyde Road)04/09/54 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Blanchard Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Good Guess Ray; but its the Firs 1959. Now can I have the riders please...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom House Kid Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Good Guess Ray; but its the Firs 1959. Now can I have the riders please...... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Front Row RtoL Aub Lawson,Chum Taylor, Geoff Mardon, Bob Duckworth, Johnnie Chamberlain, Peter Moore, Barry Briggs, Arm Leg Ronnie Moore Back Row Lto R Peter Craven, Jack Unstead , Mike Broadbanks, Ken Mckinlay, Cyril Roger, Ron How, Reg Trott Missing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIWIPIRATE Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 (edited) As the instigator of the original original thread, I would just like to say that is indeed a fine line-up and show of proper handlebars - you'd never turn one of those brutes with the namby-pamby girly bars they have now...... Edited July 26, 2005 by KIWIPIRATE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman Posted July 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 I believe the evolution of handlebars is an interesting subject.. I have no idea why the early pioneers rode with drop down bars and leg hooks, unless it facilitated leg trailing. The early bikes from the 30's thr the late 60's were difficult to ride at best, especially with the bigger rear tyres and relatively low horsepower. With the addition of a considerable amount of dirt the bigger bars gave the rider more leverage to turn the bike. The bars did get smaller in the 70's as the horsepower increased and the geometry of the bike frames improved allowing a much easier ride. Racing a speedway bike in the 30's through the 60's was very physical, and difficult. In those days, if a rider hit a rut and backed off the throttle the bikes would launch usually into the safety fence, I use the words safety fence lightly. To actually race one of those bikes, on a deep track, with 22" tyres against 3 very determined men should generate admiration. When I think of some of the small riders from the past like the great Peter Craven manhandling one of those bikes under those circumstances it amazes me to think of the sheer physical strength it took, I dont see how they did it. Remember, I am not speaking of riding on a slick track, my Gran could have done that. Not to take anything away from the current or riders from the 70's thru today. The riders of today are going so much quicker, even on slick tracks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Blanchard Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 (edited) A picture of me with my charges. Bobby Dugard's bike with Split Waterman's in the background. I rode that once or twice and though the handle bars were big they were a bit flat. As the youngest mechanic at the 1963 world finals at Wembley at 14, I thought Briggo had the biggest bars as the left hand side almost shot up in a verticle manner. I always sat on his, and Ove's, Craven, Moore's and many others. Often getting told off. Then as a wee kid these things meant all the world to me. Now, I dont know why they did. Ove's suited me best. I had some made for my push bike like Ove's. Colin Goody helped with the bending. Sad now I know Here Edited July 30, 2005 by Jim Blanchard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom House Kid Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 My Webpage Jim is this Bobby Dugard 1st left Dave Wills photo! Also was my guess Aub Lawson,Chum Taylor, Geoff Mardon, Bob Duckworth, Johnnie Chamberlain, Peter Moore, Barry Briggs, Arm Leg Ronnie Moore Back Row Lto R Peter Craven, Jack Unstead , Mike Broadbanks, Ken Mckinlay, Cyril Roger, Ron How, Reg Trott Missing! Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Blanchard Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 Yes Ray on both accounts. You are indeed are Star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom House Kid Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 Yes Ray on both accounts. You are indeed are Star <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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