TonyMac Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 John Berry, Backtrack Magazine's top columnist, has entered the ongoing Nicki Pedersen debate in typical forthright style. Never one to duck any issue, Berry will undoubtedly spark more reaction from fans and other observers with his comments in the latest issue. In a general talking point piece titled 'Where Are Today's Enforcers?', he writes: "In my time riders like Nicki Pedersen would have been given a serious word in the ear early on in their careers." Referring to the incident where Pedersen brought down namesake, Bjare Pedersen, in the Swedish GP earlier this season, Berry goes on to say: "Can you imagine Charlie Monk, or Olle Nygren, or Colin Gooddy, or Arthur Browning, or Billy Sanders allowing a rider to get away with what happened in that final?" Berry also wonders whether the advent of the air fence has caused Pedersen (and others) to adopt a more aggressive style? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Clemens Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 People shouldn't be asking people should be doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 There have always been aggressive riders around, and Nicki himself would undoubtedly put his success down to the fact that he's prepared to go for gaps other riders shrink from. Why he needs a few wise words is simple and straightforward - one day he will kill or cripple himself or, worse still, someone else. Someone needs to put this into perspective so he can exercise better judgement. If not, he'll discover it for himself some day...but by then it might be too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 I thought Tomasz Gollob did a pretty good job in Ht 12 of the Prague GP. Nicki P didn't leave him any room, but Gollob just steamed past him anyway. I doubt if Nicki P will be so bold the next time he races against Gollob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirate paul Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 I doubt if Nicki P will be so bold the next time he races against Gollob. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why? I expect he'll just be even more determined to fence him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
home straight Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 (edited) If you think back a bit, Gollob used to be the bad boy of Speedway.....until Boycey lamped him. Gollob is one of the fairest riders currently racing in the GP and has clearly matured over the years, and while I am not a fan of Nicki Pedersen, I truly hope he can do the same. Edited July 15, 2005 by home straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 If you think back a bit, Gollob used to be the bad boy of Speedway.....until Boycey lamped him. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Reply removed by moderator, for obvious reasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger74 Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 while not agreeing with all Nicky Pedersens antics he along with Antonio Lindback certainly liven proceedings in the Tony Rickardsson Road Show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Addy Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 If people do, eg FIM, then they may be best advised to ask first to ensure "steps" are accepted by all sides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 (edited) I feel his days are numbered, he cannot carry on like he is, someone will have him and if they do most people will think that he had it coming! Change your ways now Nicki, your not fair, you're given an inch and you take a mile!! Edited July 18, 2005 by Trees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertHoven Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 (edited) Each man is the master of himself, and, to some extent, his destiny. If Nikki Pedersen needs to be 'sorted out', it can only be done by Nikki Pedersen. Inflammatory statements such as 'nominating' a rider to sort him out on the track are utterly stupid do nothing less than bringing discredit to the sport and to the writers of such comments. Should Mr Pedersen be unable or unwilling to make any necessary changes to his riding style and attitude then it is incumbent upon the contolling bodies of speedway, both national and international, to do so should they consider it necessary. Edited July 18, 2005 by BertHoven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 Hello Bert. Nice to see you have your old codger avatar at last! You and Trees are both right. Unless NP matures as a rider from his own volition, he may cause some terrible catastrophe and find it's too late to be sorry. I'm quite sure he knows this already, but believes there is no other way to win races and be successful. Here is where advice from others may help him improve his game. The only way the speedway fraternity can advise him of the error of his ways, sadly, is retrospectively - assuming we ever get an effective disciplinary code policed consistently, without fear or favour. And as I say, it'll be too late by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertHoven Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 "assuming we ever get an effective disciplinary code policed consistently, without fear or favour. And as I say, it'll be too late by then." I doubt whether the Brirtish domestic authorities, as they now stand, can achieve that. That's why I included 'internationsl'; i.e. the FIM who could, hopefully, put very large rockets under certain chairs at Rugby! Glad you like the avatar- apart from the moustache it-s not a bad likeness! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 I doubt whether the Brirtish domestic authorities, as they now stand, can achieve that. That's why I included 'internationsl'; i.e. the FIM who could, hopefully, put very large rockets under certain chairs at Rugby! I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the FIM to act, it could seriously damage your life expectancy. But the Poles don't seem to have any problems with Nicki P. He's as good as gold over there. Maybe he's seen the way the Poles discipline riders and has drawn his own conclusions. Robert Kasprzak suspended for 6 months for attacking Rune Holta after an incident in the Leszno-Czestochowa clash a couple of weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shale Eater Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the FIM to act, it could seriously damage your life expectancy.But the Poles don't seem to have any problems with Nicki P. He's as good as gold over there. Maybe he's seen the way the Poles discipline riders and has drawn his own conclusions. Robert Kasprzak suspended for 6 months for attacking Rune Holta after an incident in the Leszno-Czestochowa clash a couple of weeks ago. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So if anyone messes with KK then little brother will be knocking on your door Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 Funny we haven't had any riders over here charged with assault for one of the occasional punch-ups. But then, making a complaint to the police wouldn't exactly endear a rider to his fellow-professionals, would it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 (edited) So if anyone messes with KK then little brother will be knocking on your door I think "little brother" will have learned his lesson. I'm not sure how much "KK" will have been grateful to him, as Team Kasprzak were also fined around £1,400 by Unia Leszno for the incident as well. Edited July 18, 2005 by Subedei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Clemens Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 Pedersen gets away with what he gets away with because no one does anything about it. Because no one does anything about it Nicki, therefore, concludes that he's not doing anything wrong. Nicki does need to give Nicki a good talking to. Nicki is depriving Nicki of the possibility of being a multiple world champion because of his antics. If Nicki doesn't listen to Nicki, then Nicki might well end up in hospital with multiple injuries instead. In fact, he might do so because Nicki might decide that if Nicki doesn't listen to Nicki, a spell in hospital to reflect on his deafness might do the trick. Over to you Nicki. Love, Nicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 Knowing Nicki as we all do, if he tried to have a talk with himself, he'd probably end up inviting himself out and beating himself up. Or at least, promising not to be his friend any more! Seriously, the last point is the big danger, but I wonder if he'd take more notice if he seriously injured someone else (God forbid!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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