Mr Bee Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Well done to KK for becoming World Champion in a rain affected meeting in Austria. Second was Suchanek, who finshed on the same points as KK. Something for us Poole fans to finally cheer about. Looks like KK will get a tick to the GP series next year on this! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well done KK!!!!!! suchanek refused the runoff. His decision. 1-2 for Poole !! Something for us Poole fans to cheer about after a sorry few weeks! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This has nothing to do with Poole. Its an individual event and the riders represent their country. 1-2 for Poole. You will try and cling on to anything at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 So if it had been Smoli in KKs place you wouldn't be pleased at all then? Ok... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Well he was my tip to win,but what i don't understand is,if it was to be decided with a final,why was there to be a run-off with Suchanek.Why were Hlib and Lindgren not asked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazlux Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 well done to KK, first silverware for 2005 craven shield to follow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 With all the controversy, I feel very sorry for Kasper. I can see him getting no credit at all for this over something which he has had no say over at all. It's happened, he was top of the pile at the end with Suchanek after 3 rides each and is now the U21 Champion. It's not his fault it was decided this way - Suchanek didn't want to ride in the run-off so what's KK to do? Anyway well done to the guy - we're proud of him down here and it's his name that will appear in the record books this year. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I feel sorry for the likes of Lindgren... two wins on the trot.. still well capable of winning and did not get a chance to compete against the other two. Could of beaten them both and then again in the final. Total farce... why no re-run tomorrow, why no re-run next weekend, why no re-run the weekend after.... Rubbish. Re KK a deserved winner if it had been in the right circumstances as he has had a great season.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bee Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 So if it had been Smoli in KKs place you wouldn't be pleased at all then? Ok... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I've course i would be pleased for him but it's not for Coventry is it. It's for himself and his Country. Its a world championship not a Coventry team event. Well done KK. The under 21 champ for Poland......not Poole! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 well done to KK has had a really good year for the Poole. yes it was a lottery who won but thats life. it will be in the record book as Kaspazak 2005 u21 champion not how he went about winning it. just hope all the riders have escaped injury. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He went about winning it the same as most of the field, With grit, determination and the will to win. He was top of the pile after three so gets the nod if Suchanek doesn't want to go out again. Like Rabbit said, what is he meant to do? He was best rider on show today and has rightly been crowned World Under 21 World Champion. Once the meeting has started it would never be re-ridden. What would have happened if someone had four wins and was 3 points clear of the field when it was stopped? Rerun the following day and he gets knocked off and fails to make the final. If that was your rider would you have been happy? The right decision was made, the winner was KK and the result stands. Engraved on the trophy is the worthy winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobC Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 What a complete farce! While I am a big fan of KK,and expected him to win,to win like this is utter madness. Suchanek beat him in their race.Using the tried and tested formula,of who beat who and heat wins etc,then surely he should automatically be declared the winner? This meeting is too important be shunted aside like this.The whole meeting should be re run at another time. Well done to KK,but it seems like a very hollow victory to me.Through no fault of his,he will always now be know as a 'lucky' winner.Neither he or the event deserves this. Just as I thought it was only British speedway that could contrive such rubbish. Seems like the FIM are just as bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 I feel sorry for the likes of Lindgren... two wins on the trot.. still well capable of winning and did not get a chance to compete against the other two. Could of beaten them both and then again in the final. Total farce... why no re-run tomorrow, why no re-run next weekend, why no re-run the weekend after.... Rubbish. Re KK a deserved winner if it had been in the right circumstances as he has had a great season.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hey Cat, stop chewing on those sour grapes. Lindgren blew it in his first ride, as did Lindback, who we could also say was robbed, because he could have won his last two and easily made the final. He didn't, Lindback didn't and the rest, they say, is history! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 He was best rider on show today and has rightly been crowned World Under 21 World Champion. Can't see how you can make such an assertion, since you weren't there and haven't seen any of it. As far as I'm concerned, there is no under 21 champion this year. The event is null and void due to the incompetence of the organisors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Steve,if he has the same points total as Suchanek how can you say he was the best rider.Also if there is going to be one last race to decide the champ,why not have a final with the 4 top points scorers as was planned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 What a complete farce! While I am a big fan of KK,and expected him to win,to win like this is utter madness. Suchanek beat him in their race.Using the tried and tested formula,of who beat who and heat wins etc,then surely he should automatically be declared the winner? This meeting is too important be shunted aside like this.The whole meeting should be re run at another time. Well done to KK,but it seems like a very hollow victory to me.Through no fault of his,he will always now be know as a 'lucky' winner.Neither he or the event deserves this. Just as I thought it was only British speedway that could contrive such rubbish. Seems like the FIM are just as bad. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A good and fair post... well said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 (edited) Quality Mr Shovlar, you are full of em Calling the meeting off and re-scheduling tomorrow was the only sensible decision. These circumstances have occured before in major individual meetings. Certainly that's what happened in the '84 NLRC. Situations like this just sum up why Speedway is regarded as a Mickey Mouse game followed by anoraks and pikeys. Total farce and makes you wonder why you bother giving it the time of day! Edited September 17, 2005 by frigbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Hey Cat, stop chewing on those sour grapes. Lindgren blew it in his first ride, as did Lindback, who we could also say was robbed, because he could have won his last two and easily made the final. He didn't, Lindback didn't and the rest, they say, is history! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Iam not chewing on any grapes mate... just like fairness.. just like you did when Poole were stiched up over Walasek.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robpeasley Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 First of all, let me say that if Kasprzak had won the meeting fair and square, he would have been a worthy winner given his form this season. But even he can't be too happy with this outcome. Winning a World Final on the toss of a coin - how naff is that This brings the sport into disrepute, how can we expect ANYONE to take Speedway seriously as a professional sport, when you've got stuff like this going on? All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 BobC, KK and Suchanek never met. KK was only beaten by Hlib. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 A good and fair post... well said! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But inaccurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robyn1972 Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 This has nothing to do with Poole. Its an individual event and the riders represent their country. 1-2 for Poole. You will try and cling on to anything at the moment. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh stop being so petty. So we'll hbe hearing nothing from the Bees fans from here on about them making the playoffs then eh? Otherwise I can guarantee that the Pirates fans will be queueing up to accuse you of "clinging onto everything" *waits for Mr Bee to come back and pretend that was a wind-up attempt.....* Always a shame when a meeting is disrupted due to weather but sadly it happens. Well done to KK for making the best of the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bee Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 He went about winning it the same as most of the field, With grit, determination and the will to win. He was top of the pile after three so gets the nod if Suchanek doesn't want to go out again. Like Rabbit said, what is he meant to do? He was best rider on show today and has rightly been crowned World Under 21 World Champion. Once the meeting has started it would never be re-ridden. What would have happened if someone had four wins and was 3 points clear of the field when it was stopped? Rerun the following day and he gets knocked off and fails to make the final. If that was your rider would you have been happy? The right decision was made, the winner was KK and the result stands. Engraved on the trophy is the worthy winner. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bet you would be singing a different tune if KK wasn't on top after the meeting was called off. The meeting should be re-run properly. Fans have been short changed in attending the event, and riders who still had a chance of winning have been denied the chance to claim the title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 This brings the sport into disrepute, how can we expect ANYONE to take Speedway seriously as a professional sport, when you've got stuff like this going on? All the best Rob <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You can't Rob. And personally i think i'll give up even trying to from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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