keepturningleft Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 It wasn't the starting gate or the track that spoiled tonight's coverage, but Sam Ermolenko's appalling commentating style. Sam has been a great rider and ambassador for the sport over the years but he should stay out of commentary boxes. Half of what he says makes no grammatical sense. He is less articulate than my cat, and if I hear the words 'Buddy' and 'wheels in line' much more I'm going to start watching with the sound off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernie Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 personally its boring TRICK has been using a over sized engine this has finished gp racing for this year end of story no point invisiting the next gp's. feb up with watching riders that are not committed british racing swedes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 I agree totally. I think it has to go back even further to the rider that comes through the meeting with the most points after 5 rides against all others is the winner. Which I would prefer. As it stands at present a rider that is unbeaten from all his races could come third in a semi and not qualify for the final.Its not speedway racing; to an old fart like myself. Why have a genuine individual meeting where all riders meet all other riders then have semi's and final.? What is the point? Its a bit like the qualifying rounds of previous years. All previous efforts are wiped clean and then its down to two semis and a final. If a rider has won every singler race up to the semi, they will go home with 15 points, only 1 less than the last placed man in the final. Not exactly a massive drop there! What is the point of the Semi and Final? To ensure that the meeting builds to a climax, rather than the winner being known after heat 17, leaving the meeting to fixxle out with 3 pointless races at the end of the event, which is never a satisfactory situation. All previous efforts are not wiped clean at the semis. The highest point scorers get choice of gate, which should be a major advantage in this sport...Of course, Jason and Greg both showed that you can still get it horribly wrong when you have pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirate paul Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 personally its boring TRICK has been using a over sized engine <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Would you like to back that up with some evidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Blanchard Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 What is the point of the Semi and Final? To ensure that the meeting builds to a climax, rather than the winner being known after heat 17, leaving the meeting to fixxle out with 3 pointless races at the end of the event, which is never a satisfactory situation. So what happens; as in the old days if you have two riders on 14 or three on 12? A run off. That is your climatic final is it not? Its a successful formula that lasted for about 45 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirate paul Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 Okay, of all the over-blown, over-the-top things that Steve Shovlar has ever written on these forums, I'd guess that ranks with the best of them. This GP was far from "fantastic". <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Guess it depends on whom you were supporting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 So what happens; as in the old days if you have two riders on 14 or three on 12? A run off. That is your climatic final is it not? Its a successful formula that lasted for about 45 years. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A formula that was dropped because they said you knew the result way before the end and a big climax was needed. Yeah that worked well, now the series result is known well before the end. I guess that's progress, but count me in with the old farts who prefer a straight 20 heat formula, and preferably one that riders can actually qualify for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazysue Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 Did anyone else notice the Coventry fairies in the coverage? Sent a text to Mummy Fairy straight away to let her know I was waving to them when they were waving to the camera...although it did take me a few seconds to realise they couldn't actually see me!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Davis Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 Yep i saw them and sent a txt to Mrs Nikki Davis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panthers Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 I did see them.Even the faris can get on tv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
home straight Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 I have to say I am a fan of the current system, it is clearly better than the knock out formula. I'm not convinced that there should be points up for grabs in the semis, it makes it all the more important to score well during the heats, as well as rewarding the riders who consistantly make the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernie Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 (edited) Whos doing engines for trick? Somebody needs to look at this asap. I am fedup with poole people think everythink his hunk doory with their riders. I am fed up of watchin an gp that is over, I pay to watch sky for speedway and not to see it finished mid way through. Personally the points sytem is all wrong in semi final you gain no points but gain lots of points in the final. The points system is all wrong and does not give opportunity for riders to come back from a bad GP. I have been watching speedway for years even went to 1987 2 day world final which was an experiment which was rubbish, some people on the forum do not know anything different than the GP. Edited June 26, 2005 by Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 (edited) So what happens; as in the old days if you have two riders on 14 or three on 12? A run off. That is your climatic final is it not? Its a successful formula that lasted for about 45 years. That's very true, well BSI have almost taken it back to the 45 year format, next tweek no semis and final just add all the meetings points up to find the champ, the fairest format of all! I'd make that (without tonights points) TR - 62, NP - 51, JC - 49, LA - 45, GH - 43, AL - 37 ......... a much more closer championship!! whos doing engines for trick TBC or so it said in the Cardiff proggie apparently, wonder if it was TBC in the Copenhagen programme ......... anyone?? Edited June 25, 2005 by Trees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
home straight Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 whos doing engines for trick somebody needs to look at this asap i am fedup with poole people think everythink his hunk doory with their riders i am fed up of watchin an gp that is over i pay to watch sky for speedway and not to see it finished mid way through personally points sytem is all wrong in semi final you gain no points but gain lots of points in the final the points system is all wrong and does not give opportunity for riders to come back from abad gp i have been watching speedway for years even went to 1987 2 day world final which was an experiment which was rubbish some people on the forum do not know anything different that the gp<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Some people evidently aren't entirely sure what a full stop is either. There are many people on here who remember the one off finals, me being one of them, and I prefer the GP, and as you say you pay for Sky so if it went back to one off finals you'd only get one match for your money instead of 9. I would also be careful with all these unsubstantiated claims regarding Mr Rickardsson's engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernie Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 does that mean greg was the winner rather than trick tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
home straight Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 DO you have a history of drug abuse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 DO you have a history of drug abuse? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xDx Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 whos doing engines for trick somebody needs to look at this asap i am fedup with poole people think everythink his hunk doory with their riders i am fed up of watchin an gp that is over i pay to watch sky for speedway and not to see it finished mid way through personally points sytem is all wrong in semi final you gain no points but gain lots of points in the final the points system is all wrong and does not give opportunity for riders to come back from abad gp i have been watching speedway for years even went to 1987 2 day world final which was an experiment which was rubbish some people on the forum do not know anything different that the gp <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernie Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 (edited) i have read that pensky racing are doin trick bikes, look in the papers. I do like the one off world final i think that it was exciting but the GP has taken british speedway to the lowest of the low. Some riders care more about the gp that british speedway. I am not working on my computer if you cannot read by post do not bother. I am not at school now if you want to give me a detention carry on with pulling people a part Edited June 26, 2005 by Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
home straight Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 Ok, I don't wish you to feel like I'm pukking you apart, but, typing without using any punctuation makes it difficult to read. Penske (or employees of Penske) are making Tricks frames for him, but don't have anything to do with his engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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