AndyM Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 Oh come on, it happens to almost every sportsman you can name - football, tennis, golf, F1, you name it. Why should speedway be any different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 Oh come on, it happens to almost every sportsman you can name - football, tennis, golf, F1, you name it. Why should speedway be any different? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> yes thats right he should be fined i think as should they all when they do this sorta thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 What I don't get about the Sky coverage last night, was the studio discussion where Ermolenko, Tatum (who apparently looked more and more concerned as the night went on) and Hamill suggested Nicki P should've got a "yellow card" for the incident BP fell in. The referee called all 4 back. If it warranted this "yellow card" the guy should've been excluded, end of story. Any "red card", "yellow card" procedure should lead to an exclusion from the meeting or the next GP or it's pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 Oh come on, it happens to almost every sportsman you can name - football, tennis, golf, F1, you name it. Why should speedway be any different? What does, absolute immediate interviews when things have gone wrong or right? Football ......... after the game has finished, tennis .......... at the press conference after the game perhaps, golf .......... same as footy, F1 ........... as football ...................... so don't really know a sport where the press are allowed am immediate interview with the competitors! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 So let's all be boring like the rest of the sports shall we and not get immediate reactions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzieQ Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 So let's all be boring like the rest of the sports shall we and not get immediate reactions <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So we either quit the harassment with cameras after racing incidents with the riders or we accept the tantrums and occassional 4 letter words! We cannot have it both ways! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 I love you Tabby thats what I was trying to say ........... I think after the weekend I've just had lucky my brain is telling my fingers what to type can't help it if it's all muddled.......... I blame the Vodka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 Sky always make light of the swearing anyway. Last year at Hamar after Gollob's interview being a prime example: Commentator (paraphrasing): And on a track he's not really suited to Kelvin. Kelvin Tatum (paraphrasing): Yes, he did mention that (laughing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 (edited) So we either quit the harassment with cameras after racing incidents with the riders or we accept the tantrums and occassional 4 letter words! We cannot have it both ways! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Spot on and I go for the tantrums every time And as for footballers being mild mannered, constructive and polite following a ref's bad call You're having a laugh: ever watched Man U v Arsenal? I'd also liked to have seen someone stick a mic under John McEnroes nose after a dodgy line call at Wimbledon Edited June 12, 2005 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addy Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Spot on and I go for the tantrums every time And as for footballers being mild mannered, constructive and polite following a ref's bad call You're having a laugh: ever watched Man U v Arsenal? I'd also liked to have seen someone stick a mic under John McEnroes nose after a dodgy line call at Wimbledon <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Agreed one of the reasons the riders are interviewed is because each has their own personality and way of dealing with situations. Who could blame Crump for being emotional? - all the people sitting around me were emotional and they weren't the person being treated unfairly ... There is alot of pressure on Jason Crump, as World Champion, to retain his status. If you combine this with injustice and a passionate personality - well is anyone perfect? ..... and if members of his speedway family defend him when in a vulnerable situation - who could blame them. OK Swearing isn't the best form of communication ... but underpressure people sometimes do use four letter words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splatty Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 What no-one has mentioned about Crumpy last night was after he totally wiped out Pedersen and Lindback he didnt even go over and see how poor Lindback was.No excuses only takes a few seconds to wander over and see if the other rider is OK or not. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> too true Vince I haven't seen the gp on tape yet but ive already found out that what we saw was not caught on camera and that was crumpy getting up and staring long and hard at the floored Nicki before walking off - he meant that one and it was all for nicki I got the feeling that Antonio was just in the way poor showing from crumpy as it was by Nicki in other races but....... I blame some of it on the track - unfortunately Cardiff returned to processional racing placing greater imortance on the 1st and 2nd bends - making riders force the issue and clatter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liontamer Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 It's not the swearing that worries me, it's when I see riders abusing their crash helmets. After the blow Crumpy gave his I hope they consigned it to the dustbin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 It's not the swearing that worries me, it's when I see riders abusing their crash helmets. After the blow Crumpy gave his I hope they consigned it to the dustbin. You watch the video again, he didn't bash it at all, just swung it round in frustration and handed it to the mechanic. I haven't seen the gp on tape yet but ive already found out that what we saw was not caught on camera and that was crumpy getting up and staring long and hard at the floored Nicki before walking off - he meant that one and it was all for nicki I got the feeling that Antonio was just in the way You think he fell on purpose to take Nicki down, I think not!!! On the tv coverage he seemed to be looking to see if they were ok before walking away, mind you if he had other thoughts in his mind when looking at Nicki, it's understandable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B2PROMODESIGN Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 I haven't seen the gp on tape yet but ive already found out that what we saw was not caught on camera and that was crumpy getting up and staring long and hard at the floored Nicki before walking off - he meant that one and it was all for nicki I got the feeling that Antonio was just in the way poor showing from crumpy as it was by Nicki in other races but....... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh please,you honestly think that Crumpie who needed to win the race to have any chance of progressing would go all out to nail Pedersen??....take another look and you will find he caught a rut which drove him across the track,the same rut a lot of the riders were using to gain extra drive during the meeting,but hey-ho I guess we can all read different things into different scenarios? Sure Crumpie had a disappointing meeting and is playing catch up on Tony,but $hit happens in life and it's not the end of the world but I'm sure the guy will bounce back and still give his enormous amount of supporters a great deal to shout about between now and the end of the season. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 as for footballers being mild mannered, constructive and polite following a ref's bad call You're having a laugh: ever watched Man U v Arsenal? I'd also liked to have seen someone stick a mic under John McEnroes nose after a dodgy line call at Wimbledon <{POST_SNAPBACK}> One difference. Tennis players and footballers get bans and fines for swearing in public. Do speedway riders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjoe Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 (edited) One difference. Tennis players and footballers get bans and fines for swearing in public. Do speedway riders? wanye rooney must swear 50 times each game on camera has he been punished? lets face it sky shove cameras in peoles faces to get a response. they must surely now that having your gp season ripped apart by two bad refereeing decision isnt going to put you in a good mood. They also nkow by now how crumpy reacts when he does badly, he is not the nice guy of speedway by any stretch of the imagination. Yes crumpy could show a little restraint but surely sky could give him a moment or two to colect his thoughts before shoving a camera in his face. Edited June 13, 2005 by superjoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 It's not the swearing that worries me, it's when I see riders abusing their crash helmets. After the blow Crumpy gave his I hope they consigned it to the dustbin. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Blowing, helmets ooerr missus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled Bandit Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Surely part of the fun when watching the Sky transmission of Cardiff is to see how many times Greeney gets told to f*** off, really this was quite mild compared to last year when it appeared that no-one wanted to talk to him. And another thing - having the two pit reporters just shows up what drivel Sophie Blake asks - perhaps she should stick to modelling for porn magazines as that rambling interview with Nicholls was toe-curling. At least JG asks questions that have to be answered. One point for riders though - if they really find the TV so intrusive then ban them from the pits altogether. Just remember that they may retaliate by making sure that sponsors logos are obsured from their broadcasts, or withdraw their money altogether Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedway_dan Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Nicki Pedersen continues to wind-me-up how the hell can this bloke continue to be allowed to ride over the top and dangerously he should have been excluded at least twice. I got very wound up about him on Saturday Night!! I’d say Crumpie was excluded once fairly when he wiped out Nicki and Tonio, but the other two where very suspect. That’s what you get when you appoint an idiotic referee from Poland for the biggest event in the GP calendar. On a different note I’d just like to say I and the gang had a fantastic weekend and whole occasion was top class. By far the best GP seen at Cardiff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boss 2 Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Not a particular fan of Crump but did feel first exclusion was a disgrace,second one was harsh 3 riders at same bit of track-all 4 seemed sensible decision,third one was fully justified seemed to lift slightly just off the apex of the bend. Referee was a disgrace held tapes far too long causing two tapes exclusions,badly messed up at least three crash decisions and generally was abysmal. Nicki Pedersen-the bloke is a complete muppet if there were no air fences he WOULD kill someone without a shadow of a doubt and it is a matter of time before he seriously injures someone,Greg was lucky to escape intact last year this time he aint so lucky and Bjarne Pedersen must also be thanking his lucky stars.Time for the authotities to have the balls to do something about it-before its too late!! What is Splatty on about i thought racing was great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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