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For those of you who saw the tapes catch round Dan's neck at Edinburgh last saturday there are pics on his web site www.bossracing.org that show the extent of the burns, taken three days after the incident they show why he was ruled out of Monday's 3rd round. To see the pics go to the Latest News column on the left and click on Kirky's injury latest link.

 

The lad was pretty gutted about missing Weymouth which has been his 'home' track and George and Stevie P will tell you just how fast Kirky has been around Radipole Lane in the second half racing this season!

 

I have heard that there is a shortage of the official tape material and that tracks are using other stuff. Obviously those tapes should have broken long before Dan was dragged from the bike and I know Peter Oakes is taking this matter further.

 

Dan will be back in action on Friday night at Somerset and then at Newport on Sunday.

 

BriG

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Bri

 

Steve told me how bad the incident was and that Dan's throat was in a state but those pics! He must of endured a great deal of pain and I guess that must still hurt like hell. Speedy recovery Dan good luck at Newport on Sunday see you there.

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Bri

 

Steve told me how bad the incident was and that Dan's throat was in a state but those pics! He must of endured a great deal of pain and I guess that must still hurt like hell. Speedy recovery Dan good luck at Newport on Sunday see you there.

 

What an appalling looking injury. I hope he heals up soon.

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I was at Armadale and saw the incident. There were many problems with the tapes and eventually the starts were done with flags.

It looked and obviously was a real sore one for Dan.

Take care young man and all the very best for the future.

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Thanks for the good wishes - Dan's a determined young man and is already looking ahead to tonight at Somerset - if the weather is okay that is, we are 5 mins from the track and it's raining quite heavily and has done most of the afternoon.

 

His neck still looks unpleasant but it mostly scabbed over now and the risk of infection, which was the reason they wouldn't let him ride on monday, has pretty much gone now.

 

Regards,

 

BriG and Dan

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hi i saw the pictures and they looked pretty bad but glad that its getting better. i'm coming to somerset tonite so lets hope it all goes well if it is definatley on?! beth

 

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OMG first time I've heard of it, looked at the pics and video clip and have to echo what everyone else says.

 

Best wishes to Dan for a speedy recovery

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Thanks for all your good wishes but unfortunately as soon as Dan pulled his helmet on at Somerset last night he knew he couldn't ride - the buckle rubbed against the dressing and pulled part of the scab off and the wound started bleeding again.

 

We considered a smaller dressing or no dressing at all but really there was no decision other than to let the thing heal properly before he resumes racing. That means he won't be riding in round four of the U 15s at Newport on Sunday.

 

Tough this game int' it but he's got a long time ahead of him and it's sensible to let things heal properly at his age. The thing that really annoys me is something that was so preventable has knackered up his chances of a decent run in the U-15s but good luck to the rest of the lads at Newport on Sunday.

 

Bri

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It must be really frustrating for you guys Bri - you could almost accept it if it was an 'on track' injury, if he'd twisted an ankle or summat coming off the bike but this must be really hard to stomach.

 

Hope that every track has been made aware of it and checks done to make sure that as far as humanly possible this can't happen again.

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Not wanting to trivialise the injury sustained to Dan I looked to the rule book to see what the rules are regarding the starting tapes.

 

BriG says in his original post "I have heard that there is a shortage of the official tape material and that tracks are using other stuff."

 

From the Rule book

 

Rule 9.4 "The Starting Gate, operable only by the Referee, shall support 2 or 3 cotton tapes (but not linen, plastic or other material likely to cause injury to a competitor colliding with them)....

 

Other than saying cotton has to be used, no reference to grade of cotton (if there is such a thing) is specified. I believe all tracks do comply with the rules and that a rare incident, as in this case is very unfortunate, but you cannot legislate for all eventuallities or we wouldn't be going for our regular fix of speedway.

 

As a matter of interest the Edinburgh electrician spent half a day finding the fault which if you remember your physics from school days (a long time ago in my case) involved coils and magnets.

 

Hope Dan gets back racing soon.

 

Bill

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if there is an 'official' tape material then that would suggest it is there by implication. I don't know the ins and outs but from his background would assume BriG is a lot more knowledgeable on it

 

Mark Lemon went through the tapes at neck height at Glasgow and they broke - something I thought that would always happen. It disturbs me not only that this young lad has been put through this but that it could, from what has been said, also happen elsewhere if no remedial steps are taken to ensure ALL tracks tapes would snap under similar circumstances.

 

Surely not too much to ask?

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Thanks for all your good wishes but unfortunately as soon as Dan pulled his helmet on at Somerset last night he knew he couldn't ride - the buckle rubbed against the dressing and pulled part of the scab off and the wound started bleeding again.

 

We considered a smaller dressing or no dressing at all but really there was no decision other than to let the thing heal properly before he resumes racing. That means he won't be riding in round four of the U 15s at Newport on Sunday.

 

Tough this game int' it but he's got a long time ahead of him and it's sensible to let things heal properly at his age. The thing that really annoys me is something that was so preventable has knackered up his chances of a decent run in the U-15s but good luck to the rest of the lads at Newport on Sunday.

 

Bri

 

I am gutted for Dan sorry Brian. George has enjoyed his races with Dan shame they have not been able to continue there "duels" in the U15s

 

Speedy recovery Dan. George was lucky in his tape tangle that it caught on his helmet again whipping him off the bike and did not snap???? though he was already lifting anyway :unsure:

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Rule 9.4    "The Starting Gate, operable only by the Referee, shall support 2 or 3 cotton tapes (but not linen, plastic or other material likely to cause injury to a competitor colliding with them)....

 

Other than saying cotton has to be used, no reference to grade of cotton (if there is such a thing) is specified. I believe all tracks do comply with the rules and that a rare incident, as in this case is very unfortunate, but you cannot legislate for all eventuallities or we wouldn't be going for our regular fix of speedway.

 

 

Bill I know from Morgan at Joe Hughes that Chris Van Stratton has been enquiring about stocks of tape material and that the stuff that is supplied through speedway outlets is in short supply. Maybe the rules should be that only approved products are to be used i.e. ones that will break quickly under the momentum of a rider having dropped the clutch and moved forward.

 

<(but not linen, plastic or other material likely to cause injury to a competitor colliding with them)....>

 

.....maybe there's cotton and there's cotton. I don't know what the Edinburgh stuff was made of but I do know that Peter Oakes was concerned enough that they did not break quickly and to the extent of Dan's injury enough to refer the matter and pics to the BSPA and SCB with a view to having referees check that the tapes break easily before racing commences. I mean these bikes accelerate at 0-60 in about 3 seconds and Dan isn't the slowest starter in his age group so you would think they would and should break easily.

 

Dan's not the first rider to suffer this sort of injury in speedway but everyone I've spoken too in the last week reckon this is the worst instance they have seen. It would be nice to think he would be one of the last though.

 

Don't get me wrong I and Dan understands that this is a very dangerous sport and that if this is the worst thing that happens to him in his speedway career that he will probably be a lucky lad. However the sport's authorities have a duty of care to it's competitors especially the minors.

 

As an ex-copper and now professional photojournalist I have been quite shocked at the lack of adherence to rules at various training sessions across the country in the past 18 months, in fact if one wanted to document such practices and do an expose the sport would be in serious danger of closure on health and safety overnight, especially when it comes to minors.

 

One doesn't jump up and down about these anomolies because like so many before you have to accept that if you want to ride that is the way it is.

 

I do fear for the future of this sport crowds at Somerset, Newport and Weymouth have been garbage this year, atmosphere virtually non-existant. Every week I hear riders and mechanics talk about how many dangerous and poorly prepared tracks there are, just look at the injury list already this year.

 

I love this sport and don't want to see it go down the pan but it's definitely heading that way.

 

BriG

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I must admit having been at Armadale my thoughts ran on the same thread why didn't they automatically break?

 

It is indeed a great concern if tracks are possibly using the wrong quality materials for the tapes surely a matter for health and safety since this has been brought out into the open.

 

Maybe as Peter Oakes suggested the tapes should be tested by the referee prior to all meetings to check they break on impact as part of his/her track inspection.

 

Best wishes to young Dan for a speedy recovery

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Hi this is Dan Kirkman. Id like to say thnx to every one concerned of my injury. I am recovering well and hoped to be riding at Somerset last nite but as I went to put my helmet on I felt the pressure against my neck quite badly. I was very dissapointed as I like somerset a lot and the people working there. Ive been advised not to ride 4 10 days so that means newport u-15 is out of the window. thnx again for the response of my injury and i hope i will be riding fit soon.

Kirky

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Hi this is Dan Kirkman. Id like to say thnx to every one concerned of my injury. I am recovering well and hoped to be riding at Somerset last nite but as I went to put my helmet on I felt the pressure against my neck quite badly. I was very dissapointed as I like somerset a lot and the people working there. Ive been advised not to ride 4 10 days so that means newport u-15 is out of the window. thnx again for the response of my injury and i hope i will be riding fit soon.

Kirky

 

looks like your luck might be changing - Newports U-15 meeting has been postponed due to rain. Hope its rescheduled at a time you are back riding! :wink:

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