Splatty Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Do we know what happens now in terms of semi draws? Are they all put in one big bag and drawn out or are the 4 qualifying groups split into 8 seeded bags? or does say Austria and UK qualifiers get merged and the same for Latvia and Poland??? Qualifiers: Ed Kennett (seeded) Thomas Suchanek (seeded) Marcin Rempala (seeded) Italian nomination (seeded) Krzysztof Kasprzak Antonio Lindback Krystian Klecha Christian Hefenbrok Pawel Hlib Jonas Davidsson Adrian Miedzinski Mateusz Szczepaniak Rory Schlein Fredrik Lindgren Thomas Stange Karol Zabik Daniel King Kenneth Bjerre Tommy Allen Chris Kerr James Wright Morten Risager Chris Schramm Zdenik Simota Chris Holder Henrik Moeller Klaus Jacobsen Mathias Schultz Martin Smolinski Eric Andersson Ales Kraljic Maxim Kamimullin Res Richard Hall (10) Res Andreas Messing (9) Res Ramon Ivanov (9) Res Lubos Tomicek (9) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 (edited) Don't know about the rest,but Kennett and an Italian seed will ride in Lonigo.The other 2 seeds are in Tarnow.Fritz Wallner is seeded into the final,even though he finished with 0? due to a bad crash.Think thats right although i'm not sure how it works giving Austria a seed in the Final and 8 from both semi's qualifying as well Edited May 23, 2005 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Says on official Rye site that King and Allen join Kennett in the Lonigo semi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomazpozrl Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Fritz Wallner is seeded into the final,even though he finished with 0? due to a bad crash.Think thats right although i'm not sure how it works giving Austria a seed in the Final and 8 from both semi's qualifying as well <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I heard that too, but I just don't understand it. How can Wallner be seeded into the final and at the same time ride in qualifying round ??? Of course Austria will receive a place in the final, because no Austrian riders will qualify through qual. and semifinal rounds, but what's the point of Wallner riding in St. Johann on Saturday ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Same as you Tomaz,i can only think that they were hoping he would qualify through the rounds.That would solve the problem,but they have the "safety net" so to speak of having an Austrian rider in the final.Still can't work out what will happen in the semi's if one rider has already qualified.The top 8 from both can't also go through.Thats speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Main Man Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Tomas --you are always in the know. If Rye House are saying that King and Allen are at Lonigo has the draw been done ??? Jorgen Jensen told me Tuesday or Wednesday for the draw. If it has can you please let me know where Chris Kerr is so I can start the travel arrangements!! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomazpozrl Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 As far as I know the draw hasn't been made yet. They are usually made on Tuesday, but I'm not sure about this one. As soon as I find something out, I'll post the lineups on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Main Man Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Thanks Tomas --you have my e-mail address as well if you can send me them so I can start the travel arrangements for Chris . Thanks Laurence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fentigers lad Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 I think that the future is quite bright, all 4 seeded riders and 2 Wildcards from the British Under 21 final made the World Semi's. Looks like Tommy Allen justified his inclusion as a wildcard, i cannot see that Danny Giffard would of made the final. By the way Mainman, pass on congrats to Chris Kerr who is turning into a real prospect, after the disappointment of recent young Americans in the UK, lets hope with your guidance he can be the next Bullet/Herbie/Sudden etc, maybe with Mildenhall next year??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomazpozrl Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Lonigo 18.6. : 1 Mateusz SZCZEPANIAK PZM Poland 2 Kenneth BJERRE DMU Denmark 3 Christian HEFENBROCK DMSB Germany 4 Erik ANDERSSON SVEMO Sweden 5 Edward KENNETT ACU Great Britain 6 Chris KERR AMA USA 7 Antonio LINDBÄCK SVEMO Sweden 8 Henrik MØLLER DMU Denmark 9 Rory SCHLEIN MA Australia 10 Krzysztof KASPRZAK PZM Poland 11 James WRIGHT ACU Great Britain 12 Ales KRALJIC AMZS Slovenia 13 Mattia CARPANESE FMI Italy 14 Adrian MIEDZINSKI PZM Poland 15 Martin SMOLINSKI DMSB Germany 16 Thomas ALLEN ACU Great Britain Substitute rider 17 Richard HALL ACU Great Britain Substitute rider 18 Andreas MESSING SVEMO Sweden Tarnow 18.6. : 1 Chris HOLDER MA Australia 2 Tomas SUCHANEK ACCR Czech Republic 3 Thomas STANGE DMSB Germany 4 Klaus JAKOBSEN DMU Denmark 5 Pawel HLIB PZM Poland 6 Maxim KALIMULLIN MFR Russia 7 Jonas DAVIDSON SVEMO Sweden 8 Christopher SCHRAMM ACU Great Britain 9 Krystian KLECHA PZM Poland 10 Fredrik LINDGREN SVEMO Sweden 11 Marcin REMPALA PZM Poland 12 Zdenĕk SIMOTA ACCR Czech Republic 13 Mathias SCHULTZ DMSB Germany 14 Karol ZABIK PZM Poland 15 Daniel KING ACU Great Britain 16 Morten RISAGER DMU Denmark Substitute rider 17 Roman IVANOV MFR Russia Substitute rider 18 Luboš TOMIČEK ACCR Czech Republic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splatty Posted May 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Thanks for the line ups Tomas I'd be very interested to see how the draw was made as there does seem to be some kind of pattern to it - yet the Lonigo semi has turned out to be slighty stronger based on finishing positions in the qualifiers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 A lot stronger, Splatty, though that should give Danny King a fighting chance. Why is there any need for seedings at all, BTW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Main Man Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 (edited) I think that the future is quite bright, all 4 seeded riders and 2 Wildcards from the British Under 21 final made the World Semi's. Looks like Tommy Allen justified his inclusion as a wildcard, i cannot see that Danny Giffard would of made the final. By the way Mainman, pass on congrats to Chris Kerr who is turning into a real prospect, after the disappointment of recent young Americans in the UK, lets hope with your guidance he can be the next Bullet/Herbie/Sudden etc, maybe with Mildenhall next year??? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Will do Fentigerslad --as for where next year wait and see !!! It is not just me behind him in "Team Kerr" with Ian Hewlett and Steve Norman doing a great job as well. That line-up at Lonigo looks awesome but we are sure it will not phase Chris , who will once again do his best as he always does!! Now to get planning for June 18th now we know we are off to Italy! (Thanks Tomas for the e-mail) Edited May 24, 2005 by Main Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santos Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Lonigo semi looks stronger and I'm not sure but probably from this semi qualify only 7 because 8th place is for Austrian rider in final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 How strong is the Lonigo semi compared to Tarnow!! Think Tommy, Edward and Wright will struggle to qualify from that semi but hopefully they can do it. How many actually qualify from each? Not sure a home wildcard should be kept for the staging nation, this is a world final and if Wallner isn't good enough to get there on his own merit then there should be no place for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Agree Chris.Unfortunately speedway isn't such a popular sport i suppose that tracks are tripping over each other wanting to stage such meetings.Wild-cards are a neccesary evil i guess.Judging from what was said about a previous meeting this season in Austria,Wallner is needed at meetings to ensure the Austrian fans turn up.Whenever a meeting is run without him the attendance is poor.Will make for a farce though if one semi gets 8 qualifiers and the other 7,but maybe thats why one semi is weaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Main Man Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 By this then surely the "weaker" semi should only have the seven qualifiers ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 Hope so Main Man. Looks as though Richard Hall now comes in for the unfortunate Rory Schlein in Lonigo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Main Man Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 Hope so Main Man. Looks as though Richard Hall now comes in for the unfortunate Rory Schlein in Lonigo. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So do I Chris!! It is a tough one and having eight places would make it a tad easier !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornishman Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 looks like richard hall and Roman Ivanov will both get to ride now with schlein and risager out not sure if morton will be back in time but looks like rory schlein has no chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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