SCB Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 (edited) The Welsh are irrelevant and you really think that a few more supporters would come through the gate if Morris was reserve? Don't think so. That just shows the English ignorance to Welsh sport/pride. How many other nations of a similar size could fill up the Millenium Stadium to watch a football match they know they have little chance of winning? We go to support our sports men, something the English DONT do. They must be the only nation that don't. As I said, I agree they shouldn't really be in it anyway but neither should Kennett, what exactly is gained having him? I have to watch a 3 man race now if someone is excluded, may as well not have the reserve in the first place. Why not give Loram a chance? Or Max, Karlsson, Protasiweicz, Shields, Holta. Why does the rider have to be British? OR young, the rider should a rider who could just be involved in the race and entertain us, is that not what people pay for? Not to see some 18 year old PL second string ride around at the back with nobody giving a damn about him! Suprised nobody has comment on Steve Turners post, make sense, why not get loads of the young Britis there anyway, riding or not. Edited May 21, 2005 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shale Eater Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 (edited) SCB, If you're so wound up about Kennett being selected over guys like Phil Morris then why did NORWAY'S Rune Holta get selected for the SWEDISH GP???? Personally I'm pleased that Ed has been selected as he is riding for team from Wimbourne Road but he is only a reserve and as many people have said he probably will get at the most 1 ride if that. I'm sure if Phil Morris had stepped up to the Elite League a couple of years ago then he might have been considered. One more point, you mentioned Loram, Max, Karlsson, Holta, Shields and Protasiewicz. Apart from Shields (never ridden in GP) and to a lesser extent Loram (Former World Champ), the other 4 all had there chances to do well in the GP, but blew it. Edited May 21, 2005 by Shale Eater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 You really think Ed Kennett will beat a GP rider? Has he beat anyone other than reserve for Poole this season? My point about Phil Morris is simple, if they're not picking the best (like they did in Sweden) why not pick someone local, not some no hoper from 200 miles away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splatty Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 You really think Ed Kennett will beat a GP rider? Has he beat anyone other than reserve for Poole this season? My point about Phil Morris is simple, if they're not picking the best (like they did in Sweden) why not pick someone local, not some no hoper from 200 miles away! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I see where you are coming from SCB but in my book Phil fails in the 'he is young and will benefit from the experience' and the whole welsh thing that you are talking about does not work because this is a BRITISH federation - maybe when Wales produces a rider anywhere near the standard required for even a reserve he will get the nod over all of the others but until then I can't see it even if Ed isn't the standard we are certainly looking for him to be in seasons to come and that is more to the point p.s. if Ed was to gate first I think he could make life difficult but the chances are that he would be caught cold and be overwhelmed but would we expect anything else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornishman Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 is stead 1st reserve then?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorty Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 I haven't read all the posts, so apologies if I'm repeating what someone else may have said... I don't really care who the reserves are, it's not important. But what I would like to see, as regards letting young GB riders find out what it's all about, is at least 10 of them accompanying Middlo and/or Peter Oakes in and around the pits. Why limit it to just the reserves ? Fill it up, I say ! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What a bloody good idea! Bet it doesn't happen though! Good Luck to Simon n Ed.. If they do get a ride! I'll be there cheering ya on anyhow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*+*+ paul_lee_rocks *+*+* Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 wheres howe he should b reserve you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 But Splatty, Phil Morris was considered good enough to double up by Arena Essex but they would not allow it as he has done too well in the past, instead he is a number 8, os he is of the same standard as Kennett. Plus if Phil gates nobody is going to pass him up the inside and as none of the passing at Cardiff is around the outside he'd do well as he loves the inside line. As I said, I'd prefer to see a rider who has a good chance of getting a point, Rune Holta, Michael Max or someone of that stanard, not an EL reserve. In the old format when we could afford smeone who might struggle, because of the format, I'd have prefered Phil get a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Plus if Phil gates nobody is going to pass him up the inside and as none of the passing at Cardiff is around the outside he'd do well as he loves the inside line. Sure I remember Andreas Jonsson passing Greg Hancock around the outside last year, and Gollob passing Nicki P on a blast around the outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Dundee Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Really pleased for Simon, if he gets a couple of rides he could score points. Pleasedf they have gone for younger riders as well, giving them the chance is what its all about!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splatty Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 As I said, I'd prefer to see a rider who has a good chance of getting a point, Rune Holta, Michael Max or someone of that stanard, not an EL reserve. In the old format when we could afford smeone who might struggle, because of the format, I'd have prefered Phil get a chance. now this I understand but with Loramski and Chris Louis injured what choice did they have but to exploit the situation to give experience to future superstars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 but why not Leigh Lanham. Seams to be going much better than Kennett so far this season Stead 6.50 Lanham 6.45 Kennett 4.63 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'd even pick Chris Louis in front of Kennett and I'd even pick Smithy as long as there riding well enough You need riders who could mix it up a bit and Kennett won't do that. You may laugh about Lanham but I though Kennett was just as funny. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Chris NeathStuart Robson Must in my opinion be better riders than Kennett <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Have you any more suggestions or is that the lot So basically what you are saying you are not an Ed Kennett fan, I for one am chuffed to bits that the lad is getting a chance at the GP (even if it is at Reserve!). There are plenty of Ed fans out there, like I'm sure there are a lot for the names you have suggested, personally I would like to have seen Mark Loram as a wild card (if fit), he's a favourite with most of the Brits, you only have to hear the noise everytime his name is mentioned or a picture of him is shown on the screen to know what people feel about him within Speedway. If Ed does get a ride whether he is 1st or last I'll cheer him on as will a few others no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shale Eater Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 (edited) You really think Ed Kennett will beat a GP rider? Has he beat anyone other than reserve for Poole this season? My point about Phil Morris is simple, if they're not picking the best (like they did in Sweden) why not pick someone local, not some no hoper from 200 miles away! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Heat 7 v Swindon KOC at Poole 1 Kennett, 2 Sullivan, 3 Gjedde 4 Davidsson Indeed, heat 14 in Airtek match at home to Swindon he was leading Lindback and Gjedde for 3 laps before his chain went. I'm not saying that he will beat a GP rider, he probably won't even get a ride, but he will gain a hell of a lot by being alongside guys like Trick, Crump, Adams and Hancock on the parade and in the pits rather than waste his career in the PL. And if he did beat a GP rider it will probably be Chrzanowski Edited May 23, 2005 by Shale Eater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 David Howe should have got the place instead of Kennett. Howe has settle in as and EL heat leader now and doing well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fentigers lad Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 I don't agree with the Kennett selection but could it be part of the prize for winning the British Under 21 title? If so then the selection is Justified. At the end of the day what is the likelihood of the 2nd reserve getting a ride? By the way, Steve Turner has come up with a quality idea, how about the Speedway Academy lot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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