frigbo Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 We all know that some riders love the game and find it hard to let it go. Who are those riders that have either kept racing too long and been a pale shadow of their former selves, or have made ill-advised comebacks?? Phil Crump for Swindon in '92 and Eric Boocock at Halifax in '83 are two that spring readily to mind, who do you recall??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 This thread might get a bit :evil: , most of the older/ex riders are heros for most of us on the forum from our childhoods. Some might not take too kindly to fans slating them for whatever reason....be careful what you say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted May 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 oh please!!! Who mentioned anything about slating??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jungle Jake Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Stoney? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Frigbo....... read it again! It was a friendly piece of advice......think before you type that's all, if you want to make something out of the text then be my guest :!: :twisted: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 I do think it is a good subject, but doing it respectifully takes a bit of care. It was always sad to me to see a former great hang on a bit too long or make an ill advised comeback. It seems people tend to remember the so called last race, and sometimes forget the past achievements. 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight_Lady Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 I think Frigbo can look after himself and if people choose to take his post the wrong way then that's their problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jungle Jake Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 from what I have seen of Paul Thorp the last two seasons I would put him in this group - hes lost his cutting edge - I remember what he used to be like when he rode for the Diamonds in 1993 though and no-one can take that away from him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Martin Ashby riding as a reserve for Reading - oh how the mighty had fallen!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Thought Ivan Mauger coming back to Exeter for home meetings was a little wrong... although you can't fault the guy he still got an 8 or 9 point average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 I was/am the world's biggest Chris Morton fan. I must admit - from a purely selfish point of view - I loved it when he came back with Sheffield in 93 - just to get another chance to see him ride again. Clearly, he wasn't the rider he had been, but very occasionally he could still produce that little bit of magic. He even managed to win the Northern Riders Champs to put the whipper snappers in their place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 It is sad seeing the Great Galvini b4 injury one of Englands best prospects scoring 0 at Reading and Lynn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howling gorgon Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Michael Lee, reserve for KL in the 90's I think................very sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Phil Crump for Swindon in '92 Didnt think he did that badly, he came back 6 years after he retired and scored a 6+ average in the BL Bob Kilby in 83 was pretty bad if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted May 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 I think Frigbo can look after himself and if people choose to take his post the wrong way then that's their problem. Thank you ML After all this is a Speedway Discussion Forum and we're not commenting on people in a personal manner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted May 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Phil Crump for Swindon in '92 Didnt think he did that badly, he came back 6 years after he retired and scored a 6+ average in the BL Bob Kilby in 83 was pretty bad if you ask me. Thing is Crumpie in his pomp wpuldn't have even sniffed at a 6 point average. Killer in '83 did struggle badly and seeing Ashby not only at reserve but for Reading as well was a travesty!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Thing is Crumpie in his pomp wpuldn't have even sniffed at a 6 point average. But thats all they expected from him so i dont class it as a failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted May 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Thing is Crumpie in his pomp wpuldn't have even sniffed at a 6 point average. But thats all they expected from him so i dont class it as a failure. That is very true but did Crumpie really need to scratch around for half a dozen points when 9+ was his norm at his best?? People new to the game would have thought Crumpie only an adequate rider and not the legend he is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrizHeathen Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Quite a few riders have made comebacks, it must be so difficult to say "thats it I've had enough" and finish whilst they are on top of there game. Its in there blood. Ronnie Moore's comeback was legendary, although I can't remember the full details. There are quite av few others who have kept going a little too long, its like me with the girls, I've had my day but I'm not sure if I know it yet..they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 On the Crumpie thing, I have to agree that it just didn't feel right watching Phil Crump on his come back. Sure, he may have done the job that was expected of him, but we're talking Crumpie here - the man who once had an article in Speedway Star headlined: 'The best rider in the World?' In defence of Bob Kilby - yes he was hopeless but wasn't he only persuaded to have a go due to a chronic injury problem in the Swindon team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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