Guest SwineTown Posted December 30, 2004 Report Share Posted December 30, 2004 (edited) I think that it speaks volumes about the kind of rider Mr Gjedde is that he is in Oz riding the open. when it went to sh!te in '04 up in Manchester and the old geezers pretending to be Robins were moaning in the pits about the track, Charlie was chomping at the bit and fully up for it. Those who dont see why Rosco has patience with Olly may not know that he was exactly the same for the last SIX YEARS. I hope Leigh nails another aussie final but it is a shame that there is no rematch with Ryan and no Jason. Edited December 30, 2004 by SwineTown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lucious artorius castas Posted December 31, 2004 Report Share Posted December 31, 2004 Yeah i think having Charlie was not a bad thing now i guess as a few of us werent too crash hot on the idea of overseas riders being brought into the National Championships unless they were anything but heat leader Elite League material or above . But perhaps now a precedent has been set by inviting Charlie "Cheddar" and Allott. Maybe now it will attract a better class of international rider to bolster the ranks and get the much needed bums in seats considering if none of our top 3 want to ride in it. Its been mentioned by a well known speedway person out here that a certain speedway "magnate" had approached Hancock , Rickko and Rune and apparently on the cusp of signing 2 of them but it fell thru at the last moment for reasons unknown. Now that would of been a real coup to get Herb or Tony out for what might have been there swan song out here. I am hoping we can entice Gollob one more time. He is outside of Rickko and Wigg the most exciting O/S rider i have seen at Gosford but that was back in the early 90's.............No worries lets hope that all Australian G.P. riders are represented next year in the national titles with a potential 05 Aussie u 21 world champ as well as maybe a top G.P. rider or 2.......now that would well worth the price of admission...........Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sir Lunchalot Posted January 1, 2005 Report Share Posted January 1, 2005 I know what you mean about inviting overseas riders Anth but on balance at the present stage I think I am in favour of it. I know the arguments that it is depriving an Oz lad the chance of a ride but to be fair at Gosford the gap between number 1 Leigh Adams and number 16 Chris Ferguson was enormous. Chris is a nice lad and all that but he just isn't up to it at the present stage in his career. Until we can get a reasonable quality field right down to number 16 then I'm in favour of improving the overall quality of the field with overseas riders. I also wonder if Jason Crump and Ryan Sullivan saw Hancock, Rickardsson, and Gollob (for example) line up in the Oz titles then they might have a change of heart and think "I'm not letting an outsider pinch the Oz title in my backyard" and decide to compete ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Posted January 1, 2005 Report Share Posted January 1, 2005 I know what you mean about inviting overseas riders Anth but on balance at the present stage I think I am in favour of it. I know the arguments that it is depriving an Oz lad the chance of a ride but to be fair at Gosford the gap between number 1 Leigh Adams and number 16 Chris Ferguson was enormous. Chris is a nice lad and all that but he just isn't up to it at the present stage in his career. Until we can get a reasonable quality field right down to number 16 then I'm in favour of improving the overall quality of the field with overseas riders. I also wonder if Jason Crump and Ryan Sullivan saw Hancock, Rickardsson, and Gollob (for example) line up in the Oz titles then they might have a change of heart and think "I'm not letting an outsider pinch the Oz title in my backyard" and decide to compete ? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Posted January 1, 2005 Report Share Posted January 1, 2005 I know what you mean about inviting overseas riders Anth but on balance at the present stage I think I am in favour of it. I know the arguments that it is depriving an Oz lad the chance of a ride but to be fair at Gosford the gap between number 1 Leigh Adams and number 16 Chris Ferguson was enormous. Chris is a nice lad and all that but he just isn't up to it at the present stage in his career. Until we can get a reasonable quality field right down to number 16 then I'm in favour of improving the overall quality of the field with overseas riders. I also wonder if Jason Crump and Ryan Sullivan saw Hancock, Rickardsson, and Gollob (for example) line up in the Oz titles then they might have a change of heart and think "I'm not letting an outsider pinch the Oz title in my backyard" and decide to compete ? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bring back where you have to qualify for the World Championship through your National Championship and then you might see the top riders compete. Well done Leigh ( Mr Reliable) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lucious artorius castas Posted January 1, 2005 Report Share Posted January 1, 2005 I think there is pros and cons in all the facets of the arguments here. I agree with perhaps what "Aussie" said and also now! that it may be good to have a couple of overseas riders but my concern here is the actual standard of rider being brought over to fill one of these places. I am in know doubt that Adam is a good upcoming young British rider but his results out here thus far argue against his inclusion as other young Aussie riders with the runs under the belt thus far this summer would rate a better prospect of inclusion in the national titles lineups. But like i said before that perhaps with the inclusion of Allott and Charlie then a precedent maybe now set that will see in the next couple of years overseas riders of a higher calibre being enticed to come out. Anyway there will be debates going on and off for ages but we will be all still trackside seeing them go around regardless cause we luvvvv the sport..............No Problemo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted January 1, 2005 Report Share Posted January 1, 2005 (edited) To look at the Adam Allott, shoud he should he not thing another way. Chris Ferguson, Karlis Ezergailis, Corey Blackman, Lee Herne, Christian Henry, Sam Martin, Ben Powell, Scott James et al, should they or should they not have been allowed to ride in the Conference League? Should Aussies be allowed into our league on 4 and 7 compared to our EU counterparts on 5 and 8? Strictly speaking, an EU rider has more right to ride in the CL and on a 4/7 than and Aussie. Surely a case of "I'll scratch your bakc you scratch mine"? After all, I beliebe thats how the Aussies first got the lower average, by having the young GB riders over there. BTW, anyone know if an Aus vs GB U21 series is likely to happen again? Even a full international (not likely I guess as Crump and Sully can't be bothered with the Aus titles, for various reasons). Edited January 1, 2005 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lucious artorius castas Posted January 1, 2005 Report Share Posted January 1, 2005 Yeahhhhhhhhhhh one of ya best Sean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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