Guest Dizzy_Heights Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Will speedway always be a minority sport? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BilaHora Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 Ms Dizzy_Heights What a shame that no one has, up until now, chosen to reply to your post. Your post does, however, beg the question: "Has speedway always been a minority sport?" After all, in the halycon days of the 1950s a league meeting between Wembley and Wimbledon could see Wembley stadium filled to capacity. Throughout the 1970s speedway was widely regarded as the second biggest spectator sport in the United Kingdom and even as late as 1981 the world final, held at Wembley, attracted a crowd of 90,000. In those days speedway was also well-served by television, with regular coverage of the major events on ITV's World of Sport. This was at a time when live coverage of sports was virtually non-existent. Perhaps speedway deserved a little more coverage but, all told, television coverage was respectable. Speedway's decline really set in with the recession of the early-1980s and the rise of television-friendly sports such as snooker and darts. The loss of Wembley Stadium after 1981 was another blow. Furthermore, other sports adapted and increased in popularity, such as Rugby Union going professional. Speedway, on the other hand, seemed not to address changing times and descended into obscurity. I still believe that there remains a residue of good feeling towards speedway abroad within the United Kingdom, but unless this good feeling is turned into attending meetings, it is difficult to see a true renaissance of the sport. Especially, as the residue can only exist as long as there are people who remember attending meetings in the past to pass this onto future generations. What to do, I do not claim to know, but speedway need not necessarily be a "minority" sport indefinitely. Regards BilaHora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Saint Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 BilaHora, Sir, I agree with your comments. At the risk of repeating myself, I believe the fault lies with promotion. Promotion of a sport or any product, does not mean relying on word of mouth, as seems to be the case with speedway, but actively (and aggressively) marketing the product. It would be easy to blame local promotions but perhaps the root of the problem is at National level. I suggest that a clearly defined plan be drawn up by the BSPA to improve the marketing of speedway backed up by local initiatives. At this point I cop out on the grounds that I am not, nor ever will be, an expert at marketing. However, a "supremo" well versed in such techniques would be able to set something up. It will cost money to employ such a person or persons, but the outlay could be quickly recouped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tape2tapevideo Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 (edited) Trouble is Promoters take a lot out but are not willing to put in, too much of speedway is a closed shop, if some one comes in and can do a job, but needs to shift some old deadwood, it is frowned upon and they quickly are moved out and lost to the sport. Not being unkind, but you can count the good promoters on one hand, and it has been said many times, until you get a independant body in charge of the sport with no conections to a club this will not change. Rules need to not just be made, but kept, not stupid double points rules, but real rules, realistic averages, no team could afford 7 numbers 1's and no number 1 would want to be at number 4,5,6 or 7 in a team. What is wrong with Poole being the Manchester United of speedway? They won't put more bums on their own seats, but they will when they travel to others and if they get beaten, great everyone goes home happy. People are quick to knock our sport, our stars and our managers when they are successfull (such as Neil Middleditch), but maybe they should be setting thereselve the same high standards that are set down at Wimbourne Road. We need a national team to be proud of, we came so close last year, but where will we be in 2010?, the Brit riders need to have targets and want to ride for Britain or ENGLAND as it used to be, they need backing and support. British speedway is better than Polish, Swedish, Danish and USA or used to be and that is the problem terms such as "USE TO BE", "USE TO GO" are heard more often than do go. This needs rectifying, but to get them back is going to be hard. Than and only then will speedway be taken seriously. Edited December 7, 2004 by tape2tapevideo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Will speedway always be a minority sport? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjw ministerofport Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Maybe this is not the case but im sure that in the seventies the BBC wanted to use speedway as a replacement for cricket. But because of the lack of interest shown by the BBC in the past the BSPA told them no way. And so darts and snooker stepped in to fill the gap. I wonder if things would have been different if speedway had replaced cricket. Looking at cricket they changed their ways to attract the fans back and it seems to have worked. So why can't speedway change when it needs to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Know Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 Most people attending speedway are over 40, the sport is not attracting young people as there is so much more to do and most find it boring. Over the next 10 years the numbers will drop sharply, sad but true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 (edited) Why? Is everyone over 40 going to kick the bucket within the next 10 years? Depends on your view as a minority sport? Most sports are 'minority' compared to the big 4 or 5 and it depends on what country you're in. Is speedway a minority sport in Poland? All comes down to marketing and until promoters get away from the safe 'family' image and start portaying it more as an extreme sport you will have a hope in hells chance of attracting a more youthful audience. I cringe when i hear this 'family' tag linked to speedway - it conforms to every boring, warm and fluffy, anoraky stereotype that exists. Speedway in it's raw form is as extreme as any motorsport - that's the angle to go with not old boys with badges flasks and a rug! Now beating a quick retreat from an army of old boys armed with flasks Edited January 29, 2005 by rabbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Know Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 Been going to poland four many years, attendances down there and football now more popular than speedway. Think what you will but it will not get any better than it is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 Been going to poland four many years, attendances down there and football now more popular than speedway. Think what you will but it will not get any better than it is now. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Must be very close if football is more popular.See here football has increased by 2.7%.From what i remember of the speedway figures they hold up quite well in comparison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whacko Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 too many old ppl go to speedway. maybes that is why concessions are being cut? we will have to wait and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 Most people attending speedway are over 40, the sport is not attracting young people as there is so much more to do and most find it boring. Over the next 10 years the numbers will drop sharply, sad but true. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> First Norbold then everyone over 40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 All comes down to marketing and until promoters get away from the safe 'family' image and start portaying it more as an extreme sport you will have a hope in hells chance of attracting a more youthful audience. I cringe when i hear this 'family' tag linked to speedway - it conforms to every boring, warm and fluffy, anoraky stereotype that exists. Speedway in it's raw form is as extreme as any motorsport - that's the angle to go with not old boys with badges flasks and a rug! Now beating a quick retreat from an army of old boys armed with flasks <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree and have said before a number of times,one of the biggest problems is the fans.To see a bunch of speedway fans is like looking at society's mis-fits.It hardly helps that speedway is staged at places like Mildenhall,Peterborough,Arena-Essex.....It's all set up not to be attractive to a large and young audience.It is well made for the camper van,deck-chair,jacket covered in badges with year bar brigade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinstripe Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 Maybes if the likes of Lupus and Dyer stopped taking tippex to meetings with a plastic sheet to guard themselves from shale and a deckchairs, more kids would attend speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whacko Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 gotta agree with "the stripe" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Know Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 Speedway has always been thought of as a pikey sport, people dont like what i say but unfortunatly its true. Most fans come from the same background and i would think around 80% own a anorack or wulfsport coat. Speedway will never attract the sort of people who could move the sport forward, more so in the U.K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Racers of Reading Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 Speedway is a fantastic product if promoted right. However as long as we have the dinosaur promotions that infest this sport, it will always be a minority sport. It will never seriously challenge football, and only an idiot could seriously expect otherwise, but speedway does have massive potential. Some of the fans I admit don't help its appeal - far too fluffy and nice with anoraks, but having said that speedway fans are by far and away the best mannered sports fans I've ever come across. Things that need improving to improve the sport: Dinosaur promotions (we know who they are - I could go on all night about them at the moment!!) Stadiums & facilities Merchanidise Scrap the double-point cr@p ....that's a few for starters!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 I agree that Speedway has heaps of potential, every first timer I have taken has really enjoyed it. I wonder how much a run of fifteen second prime time TV adverts would cost if each track pooled some funds. But unfortunately unless you know of specific websites, an obscure teletex page, and have access to special maps that show you exactly where you can go to watch the sport. New comers haven't got a cat in hells chance of going again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 Most fans come from the same background and i would think around 80% own a anorack or wulfsport coat WRONG, a Peter Storm fleece if you don't mind, 5 or 6 years old at that, still got yellow/green anorak in the wardrobe though, just can't part with it My poor old crotchety husband happened to comment this afternoon about how many cycle speedways there used to be and how many youngsters progressed from cycle to motorcycle speedway, perhaps if a few new cycle speedway tracks were born more youngsters would get involved with the then natural interest in motorcycle speedway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazysue Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 (edited) I haven't met anyone yet who has the same back ground as me.....as for anoraks or wulf sport jackets...never owned any of them. Flask? no way, have my personal servant to get my cups of tea!!!. Deck chair, nah not me, not the same, you can't jump around on one of them and still remain uninjured. Camper van? Eh? I like a bit of luxury, mines a shiny Audi A4 Social misfit? er.... right will keep quiet on that one.I fit in well at speedway...it's just everywhere else I don't fit And I'm still under 40!!!!!!! Edited January 30, 2005 by crazysue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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