shazzybird Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 (edited) I was 3 years old when the accident happend, yet some of my family remember it like it was yesterday. My mum has commented in the past at how good looking Martyn was (now you now where I get it from although she wasn't into butt watching ) Had a little look through the links and found this Nothing like I remember as that was what it looked like after the speedway had been oosted and the dog racing took over the stand was covered in with standing room at the bottom of it. I went there once with me ol' mucker Knocker and a few of the others can't really remember much about it as I don't think I wanted to be there. Thanks for the links it's nice to take a trip down memory lane every now and then just that I like to take that trip more often than others. The Hackney pictures of Waterden Road (HERE) exactly how I remember it the memories are flooding back now !!! Just need one of Rye House now. Thank you once again xxxxx Edited October 29, 2004 by shazzybird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BilaHora Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 All I remember when Eddie Ingels rode for Newcastle Diamonds in 1984. Mr Ingels was a very gifted rider from California who rode for Newcastle during their troubled season in the British League in 1984. Sadly, Mr Ingels failed to reach the required 6.00 average to secure a work permit for the following season and, anyway, Newcastle folded at the end of the season. Wolverhampton tried to sign Mr Ingels but failed to secure a concession from the government in regard to the work permit. However, midway through the season Stuart Bamforth, then the owner of Belle Vue, did manage to bully the government into granting Mr Ingels a work permit. Mr Ingels did not settle on the huge Hyde Road track - although he would probably suited the tighter Monmore Green circuit in Wolverhampton. Personally, I feel that Mr Ingels could have become a real star had he been allowed to join Wolverhampton. Regards BilaHora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BilaHora Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 All Incidentally, in this topic nothing is regarded as "...off topic" by the originator - take it wherever you want it to go. Regards BilaHora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Blanchard Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 (edited) Incidentally, in this topic nothing is regarded as "...off topic" by the originator - take it wherever you want it to go. I remember 'working' for Ken Brett at 14 and one my 'jobs' was to clean the little sports car belonging to Split Waterman when he visited. Whilst Ken took Split and Avril to the pub. When they returned a mechanic working for the garage would then throw water over it. Then they would turn me upside down and put me down a pile of used car tyres. I remember Cyril Maidment visiting, and having pie & mash with him. I remember the charming little daughter of South African champion Doug Davies saying, " 15 points tomorrow". Travelling with Bob Dugard and his girlfriend to Sheffield and back from London in the back of a Morris Minor van between his bike and tools. I remember Gary Middleton telling me he had Ivan Mauger and Ole Olsen’s character's assessed by a psychoanalyst whilst sello taping the muzzle up of his wife's dog. Being in the pits at Wembley at the 1963 world final at 14 and crashing the Morris Minor van of Ken Brett with Splits bike in the back 'driving it from the pits to the function room' after the meeting. ( I did mean well.... ) Peter Craven telling me in the pits at Wimbledon to tell Ove that I thought that Peter Craven was the 'greatest' (I did not....tell him) Barry Briggs always calling me 'Tiger' but now it has slipped to just 'James'. Perhaps, some people think I am boasting but these are some of the treasured memories that I have, and no one can take away. Thank you BilaHora. Edited October 29, 2004 by Jim Blanchard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 Ooh,pie & mash with eels and vinegar with chillies in it.I remember that Sadly i have not found a shop here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Blanchard Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 (edited) Ooh,pie & mash with eels and vinegar with chillies in it Iris this was Goddards not Manzies. They did not sell eels, and neither of them sold chillies. Edited October 29, 2004 by Jim Blanchard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 (edited) There was definitely something floating in the vinegar,Jim. It might have been a Tooting speciality as i don't remember it elsewhere Edited October 29, 2004 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BilaHora Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 Mr Blanchard What are you thanking me for? I should be thanking you for excellent posts that enhance this little thread I started. Keep the memories going and hopefully more people will join in. Regards BilaHora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 Thanks for that Ian. I remember the occasion well. I saw it on the front page of the Evening Standard when I went out for a break from work at lunch time. I still have the paper. It was a very sad day of course. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I was working in the City at the time and was also out for lunch when I saw it on an Evening Standard billboard. It was probably the first time (and certainly the last) that I bought an Evening Standard. It's hard to believe it was a third of a century ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 Its the atmosphere i remember most.The Internationale,having to get there a couple of hours early and still find yourself in a large queue.The 2 Division Riders Championship with all the different colours and flags from places like Workington and Berwick.Hardly finding a place to sit. The 75 Wembley Final,was amazing for me to enter a stadium with 80,000 speedway fans.I had been to Wembley a couple of times before to see England play but i think there was only 30,000 or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 Perhaps, some people think I am boasting but these are some of the treasured memories that I have, and no one can take away. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hey JB boast away m8, lovely to read your memories Excellent thread with some lovely memories yet sad ones as well but it's all part of life and all part of growing up. (JB does this make you Peter Pan and me Wendy as I never want to grow up and forget my memories ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 In my younger days as a spectator I never came across the riders themselves much. However, I do remember that when Norman Hunter was riding for West Ham he often used to be a spectator at Hackney and I used to stand next to him or near him anyway. He always used to spend the whole match reading the Speedway Star. I don't think he ever actually watched a race. When the match was over he used to ask people around him who'd won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 Always was a bit uneasy being near someone who didn't fill in their programme.People who threw their programmes away at the end,well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BilaHora Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 All I remember when I used to wonder if anyone would beat the imperious Joe Owen around Brough Park during 1982 and 1983. Regards BilaHora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BilaHora Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 (edited) All One of my favourite stories from speedway was related in a book called, If I remember, The History of the World Championship. It was about the relationship between a brute of a rider and his mechanic, related, so the book said, best by the late lamented Johnnie Hoskins, and it always made tears come to my hardened eyes. It seems that the mechanic lived for a little praise from the rider and would almost burst into tears if the engine of the rider misfired in a race. However, one Christmas conscience struck the rider and he frantically tried to find a present for the mechanic, finally finding a few spare parts and placing them in front of the mechanic with the words "...here son, tidy them up". The mechanics face lit up as he went to work. The killing last line, delivered by Mr Hoskins, was that the mechanic, "...poor kid, was blind you see". I must look out the book and find the story, as I am sure that I have not done it justice. Regards BilaHora Edited October 30, 2004 by BilaHora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 Yes, the story is in John Chaplin's "The Story of the World Championship". You've remembered the story well. On Christmas Day the rider went to a workshop where the mechanic (Little Tich) was sitting and he gave him six cylinder heads a couple of cylinder barrels and the innards of a second hand machine and patted Little Tich and said "Clean 'em up son." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BilaHora Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 All I remember when Egon Muller was world champion. He won the world championship in 1983 at Norden in his native West Germany (becoming the first rider to win the world championship powered by GM) while, as ever, inactive in the British scene. He did, however, agree to make several appearances in the Britain towards the end of the season, including three match-races against Newcastle's heat leader trio at Brough Park. Sadly, Mr Muller was injured the previous evening (at Exeter I think) and only completed one heat in which he was easily beaten. Still, the first world champion I ever saw race live. Regards BilaHora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman Posted November 5, 2004 Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 The first time i saw Ronnie Moore ride.. Speaking to him in the pits afterwards and still remember the incredible stage presence he had. I felt as though i was in the presence of a movie star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzieQ Posted November 5, 2004 Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 The first time i saw Ronnie Moore ride.. Speaking to him in the pits afterwards and still remember the incredible stage presence he had. I felt as though i was in the presence of a movie star. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Very similar to the feeling I had when near Bruce Penhall (obviously before he went off to Hollywood!) I have a picture of him and I taken by the showers at Poole, when I say by the showers I mean the hallway just outside them before anyone questions that ! Mind you, I was also thrown into the bath at Poole one season, fully clothed I must add here, but they were nice enough to take off my new boots first! Oh the memories of my younger days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman Posted November 5, 2004 Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 The first time i saw Ronnie Moore ride.. Speaking to him in the pits afterwards and still remember the incredible stage presence he had. I felt as though i was in the presence of a movie star. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Very similar to the feeling I had when near Bruce Penhall (obviously before he went off to Hollywood!) I have a picture of him and I taken by the showers at Poole, when I say by the showers I mean the hallway just outside them before anyone questions that ! Mind you, I was also thrown into the bath at Poole one season, fully clothed I must add here, but they were nice enough to take off my new boots first! Oh the memories of my younger days! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hey Tabby, no need for so much self explanation.... I believe you, really i do.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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