dtc Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 So Mr BSI has told us the new GP format 15 riders plus one wildcard 20 heats with race points being GP points. Then 2 semis and a final. sounds like a lot more exitement than the curant format, and a lot more compatitive. Any thoughts??? Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 Just listened to what Mr P had to say and I must admit sounds like it could be good for the sport, the races would be more exciting from the start of the meeting and therefore may attract new supporters. Hasn't he got a lovely smile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirmatty Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 im all 4 it!!!!! gets rid of a few of the nohopers!! all the riders get a minimum of 5 rides from what i can work out!! and every race position looks 2 have more importance in the new format , no more just sitting in 2nd and following the leader coz youve beat the ellimation slots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grim Reaper Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 Hasn't he got a lovely smile <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes hasn't he. Anyway, off you go back to the cooking & cleaning while we menfolk discuss the racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 gets rid of a few of the nohopers!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> In previous GP's some of those "NoHopers" have performed some of the best riding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 (edited) Sounds a cracking idea. I didn't at first like the idea of going back to a 5 race 20 heat formula, but with meeting points counting as GP points, it makes every race, and every place, someting to go for. Only thing left unanswered was what happens if you score a 5 ride max, then bomb out in the semi? Do semi and final race points count as well? If so a rider can get 8 points in the 5 heats, and win the final. How will that compare to a rider who gets a max then bombs out? Looking forward to it already. Edited October 2, 2004 by Steve Shovlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grim Reaper Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 Blast, she didn't bite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 Blast, she didn't bite! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> watch ya árse for teeth marks in the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 (edited) Why didn't anyone ever think of this 16 rider 20 heat 5 rides per rider format before? Edited October 2, 2004 by norbold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirmatty Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 gets rid of a few of the nohopers!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> In previous GP's some of those "NoHopers" have performed some of the best riding <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ummm sola,forland,santej, stead,svab,barth,ljunj,kk,jagus ,louis,lindgren just 2 name 11 lindback and tomasz chrz did not do much but can prove me wrong nxt year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 I like it, because it's the idea I have been suggesting for about 3 or 4 years now. Only difference is I said a final and there's going to be 2 semis and a final instead. A brilliant move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splatty Posted October 3, 2004 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 I'd like to know what is wrong with the current format - if it aint broke why fix it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 3, 2004 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 Why didn't anyone ever think of this 16 rider 20 heat 5 rides per rider format before? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They did Norbold,it's one of the formats tried here for the U21 championship this year.The race format changed almost every meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beercellar Posted October 3, 2004 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 Sounds a cracking idea.I didn't at first like the idea of going back to a 5 race 20 heat formula, but with meeting points counting as GP points, it makes every race, and every place, someting to go for. Only thing left unanswered was what happens if you score a 5 ride max, then bomb out in the semi? Do semi and final race points count as well? If so a rider can get 8 points in the 5 heats, and win the final. How will that compare to a rider who gets a max then bombs out? Looking forward to it already. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> wot i can understand is this,if someone has five wins,then wins a semi then the final,they will have 21 points in total,3 points for EVERY win,none off this 25 points for winning lark,i think its gonna also be that even if some has a maxium then gets knocked out in the semi,they will still be on top,semi and the final is just to see whoses that countrys champ,just to make it a bit more exciting,i think,hope that made sence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjw ministerofport Posted October 3, 2004 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 Got to be better i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted October 3, 2004 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 Why didn't anyone ever think of this 16 rider 20 heat 5 rides per rider format before? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They did Norbold,it's one of the formats tried here for the U21 championship this year.The race format changed almost every meeting <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh yes, iris, you're right the format has been used before. For every World Final from 1936 - 1994 and every other individual meeting in that time plus most since. Silly me for forgetting that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill leahy Posted October 3, 2004 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 I would have the winner & runner up going straight to the Final, then two semi-finals, with only the winners going into the final, then we would defiantly have no settling for second places......also won't the race points be counted forward with the place points.............or.........???? thought that's what I heard.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted October 3, 2004 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 Obviously JP didn't go into exact details but I can envisage some problems with how they determine the GP "winner" at each round. Either the winner of the round will be the rider that wins the final or the rider with the highest number of points at the end of the night. If the round winner is simply the rider that wins the final then it would presumably be possible for a "losing" rider to leave with more points than the winner which makes no sense. If the round winner is the rider that scores the most points in the meeting then presumably it will be possible to win the round without winning the final therefor removing the climax that we currently get in a GP. Neither situation seems ideal to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 3, 2004 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 Why didn't anyone ever think of this 16 rider 20 heat 5 rides per rider format before? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They did Norbold,it's one of the formats tried here for the U21 championship this year.The race format changed almost every meeting <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh yes, iris, you're right the format has been used before. For every World Final from 1936 - 1994 and every other individual meeting in that time plus most since. Silly me for forgetting that! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The 20 heat format yeah,but this has semi's and a final,Norbold.Thats what i'm talking about.Guess your still thinking about that "best speedway book ever" topic eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted October 3, 2004 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 Yes, but you'll see I did not mention the semi-finals and final in my original post. It was the format itself I was talking about. I was quite amused when John Poshbloke was explaining it on tele last night - how it seemed to be something new the BSI had thought up to ensure that all riders met each other and that all points counted etc. Yes, I am still thinking about the best speedway book ever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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