Pete Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 If you had the chance to pick the 16 riders for 2005 regardless of final GP standings in 2004 who would they be and why? My 16 would be: Australia Jason Crump – Champ elect, no more needs to be said Leigh Adams – Most consistent league rider in the world, Ryan Sullivan – Capable of winning GP’s on his day Sweden Tony Rickardsson – No reason needed Andreas Jonsson – Fast and exciting, future champ? Mikael Max – Experienced and on his day a threat Peter Karlsson – Looked great in the SWC GB Scott Nicholls – An injury free year could see him in the top 4 Lee Richardson – Shows good signs of a future GP winner Mark Loram – A racer in the true sense of the word America Greg Hancock – Having a resurgence as a GP rider Billy Hamill – Gotta still be quick enough to pose a threat Denmark Nicki Pedersen – Love him or hate him you need him in the GP Hans Andersen – See Nicki Pedersen Poland Tomasz Gollob – A GP without Tomasz is unthinkable Jarek Hampel – Young upcoming future GP winner They are the best 16 riders in the world IMO, maybe there are one or two that given a year or so may be knocking on the door to be in there but for a series that is supposed to be contested by the best riders in the world and not some who sneak in through the back door or win meetings in someone’s back garden you need the best. Reserves would be Rune Holta and Bjarne Pedersen. The others seem far too inconsistent and not really in the running to win a GP. Pete (yes, bored) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy moore Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 1 crump 2 rickardsson 3 adams 4 sullivan 5 gollob 6 jonsson 7 h andersen 8 n pedersen 9 holta 10 zagar 11 hamill 12 janusz kolodzei 13 hampel 14 hancock 15 loram 16 p karlsson res max stonehewer louis richardson b pedersen l dryml.Love to see matej in it to ruffle a few feathers,made max and sullivan look average in the slovenian gp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 1 crump 2 rickardsson 3 adams 4 sullivan 5 gollob 6 jonsson 7 h andersen 8 n pedersen 9 holta 10 zagar 11 hamill 12 janusz kolodzei 13 hampel 14 hancock 15 loram 16 p karlsson res max stonehewer louis richardson b pedersen l dryml.Love to see matej in it to ruffle a few feathers,made max and sullivan look average in the slovenian gp. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Zagar wasn't a shadow on the performances of Bjerre and Iversen who knocked none other than Tony Rickardsson out in the Danish GP and reached the semi final, all in their first grand prix! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezekiel Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 1 crump 2 rickardsson 3 adams 4 sullivan 5 gollob 6 jonsson 7 h andersen 8 n pedersen 9 holta 10 zagar 11 hamill 12 janusz kolodzei 13 hampel 14 hancock 15 loram 16 p karlsson res max stonehewer louis richardson b pedersen l dryml.Love to see matej in it to ruffle a few feathers,made max and sullivan look average in the slovenian gp. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> How can you have Stonehewer at reserve but not even mention Nicholls? Are you mad?!!!!! I'd find it way too difficult to name my top 16, although for me Holta would definitely be left out. He was great a couple of seasons ago but not any more, plus he goes down way too easily - he just can't seem to mix it with the big boys.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 Loram is past it @ GP level now!.I'd rather have Iversen or Bjerre in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full-throttle Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 Pete, agree with 14 of your 16. I would leave out Max, and Sullivan, both great at e l level but no longer good enough for the gp IMO. replace max with Lindback and Sullivan with Iversen or Zagar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits4eva Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 My 16 would be : Jason Crump Tony Rickardson Greg Hancock Leigh Adams Tomasz Gollob Andres Jonsson Nicki Pedersen Hans Andersen Scott Nicholls Lee Richardson Kenneth Bjerre Jarek Hampel Matej Zagar David Norris Janusz Kolodzei (I'd pick these 16 because they are all hungry , ooze class... are racers and bring pure entertainment ) And wild cards to be anything from Billy Hamill , Mark Loram , Sullivan... all could win a GP on their day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 Pete, agree with 14 of your 16. I would leave out Max, and Sullivan, both great at e l level but no longer good enough for the gp IMO. replace max with Lindback and Sullivan with Iversen or Zagar <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I couldn't agree more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikstar Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Bit unsure why there's so few nominations for Bjarne Pedersen, he's improved so much both domestically and internationally this year...heat leader, national champion, GP winner etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Bit unsure why there's so few nominations for Bjarne Pedersen, he's improved so much both domestically and internationally this year...heat leader, national champion, GP winner etc. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Vik I thought long and hard about putting Pedersen in but aside from the GP win which was a well earned and fantastic achievement he has done little else to really convince me he is one of the top16 in the world at present. The same goes for Holta personally. Others have said that Lindback and Zagar deserve a spot also but again I think that on all GP circuits these two would be bit-part players at present, I’m not however disputing the fact that their day will come. For next year the 16 I mentioned would be my pick but in, say 2007, when a lot of the riders in that 16 are getting past their prime then the young guns will have their day. Another good question is that in 6/7 years time do you see the GP field being as strong as it is now? Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenn Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 Bit unsure why there's so few nominations for Bjarne Pedersen, he's improved so much both domestically and internationally this year...heat leader, national champion, GP winner etc. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Another good question is that in 6/7 years time do you see the GP field being as strong as it is now? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If you look at the current TOP riders, Crumpy started winning GPs at 21, Trick won his first title at 24(?) In the current crop of riders aged from about 23 downwards i cant see anyone coming close to these 2 MEGAstars of the sport! However i think it will make the GPs much closer! Just looking at the original line up for this years under 21 final, at least half the field had a genuine chance of winning the title! Hopefully this is what the GP series will be like in maybe 5years! Though riders like Bjerre, Zagar, PUK, Kolodziej etc need to be looking at getting in the GPs ASAP, then in a few seasons the same goes for Lindgren, Schlein etc! Unfortunate that there are no brits to go into that bunch........ I think if we arent careful the GPs will have no Brits in 10years time when Richardsson+Nicholls retire.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 I think if we arent careful the GPs will have no Brits in 10years time when Richardsson+Nicholls retire.......... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Let just ignore the likes of James Wright and Joshua Auty. In 10 years time there is no reaosn why they won't be in GP. As well as the odd shock rider, lets be honest, who said Lee Richardson would ever get into a GP in his life in his first year or two of the sport? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornishman Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 Give Chris Harris a go i think matej zagar deserves a chance, euro champion and world u21 finalist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Carp Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 If the riders were to finish in their current post-Bydgoscz positions, we'd have... - Qualified as top 8 Crump Rickardsson Hancock Adams Nicki Pedersen Gollob Jonsson Bjarne Pedersen - Qualified through WC meetings Lindback Chrzanowski I guess the wildcards will be... Nicholls and Richardson (otherwise the series would be Britless) Holta (Norwegian GP, need a Norwegian rider) Either both Drymls, or Lukas and Brhel (otherwise the series would be Czechless) Final wildcard is anyones guess, but on current form I can see Hans Andersen getting it if he doesn't qualify by right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulli Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 Either both Drymls, or Lukas and Brhel (otherwise the series would be Czechless) Couldn't there just be one Czech and have Ryan in there because although he's had a really bad season, he's had a better season than all three of these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 Either both Drymls, or Lukas and Brhel (otherwise the series would be Czechless) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You are joking! In my opinion that is what wild cards are for to keep local interest, why sacrifice the place of some exciting new talent who will reach main events in favour of the most boring riders in the world (the Dreary Drymls) and Brhel who was past it long ago, the series is already degraded with the likes of Chrzonowski in it (he did well in the GP didn't he!) lets not make it weaker by putting the useless Drymls in it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 If the riders were to finish in their current post-Bydgoscz positions, we'd have... - Qualified as top 8 Crump Rickardsson Hancock Adams Nicki Pedersen Gollob Jonsson Bjarne Pedersen - Qualified through WC meetings Lindback Chrzanowski I guess the wildcards will be... Nicholls and Richardson (otherwise the series would be Britless) Holta (Norwegian GP, need a Norwegian rider) Either both Drymls, or Lukas and Brhel (otherwise the series would be Czechless) Final wildcard is anyones guess, but on current form I can see Hans Andersen getting it if he doesn't qualify by right. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The 8th spot looks like any one of B.Pedersen, Andersen, Richardson and Hampel. I would expect the 3 who miss out to be given seeded spots. That leaves 2 spots which I reckon will go to any 2 from Nicholls, Sullivan and Holta. With Holta 8 points behind Sullivan it might just depend on who does what in hamar. Can't see any rationale for including anyone else unless they go against past form and bring in totally new blood such as Zagar. Personally I hope Holta gets a spot as he is only now showing his true form. Having said that Sullivans past form should count for something.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 Qualified as top 8 1: Crump 2: Rickardsson 3: Hancock 4 :Adams 5: Nicki Pedersen 6: Gollob 7: Jonsson 8: Hampel Qualified through WC meetings 9: Lindback 10 :Chrzanowski i think that the "picks" will be 2 out of these 4. Hans Andersen - only 1 point off 8th and unlucky in WC at Vojens Bjarne Pedersen - won a GP this year so should be enough Lee Richardson - best Brit this year Scott Nicholls - unlucky to miss 1st 2 GP's, so should count for something. the other 2 battling for 3 places with the list below: Ryan Sullivan - former GP winner, not at best this year. Rune Holta - Will Norway insist on 1 rider in the series....... Lukas Dryml - Will Czech Rep insist on a rider....... Matej Zager - One for the future. 3rd in u21 wc. Kenneth Bjerre - finished 3rd in wc and 2nd in u21 wc. Mark Loram - Ex-World champ might be looked favourably upon As for the others from this years series i think we have seen the last of them for at least a year. Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom House Kid Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 (edited) Next years format IMO looks good and it is a pity that Mark Loram has not done enough to get a place because a min 5 rides format would suit him! my only worry is the state of the tracks! This season the tracks have been poor which did not suite the early starters so the new format may level that up! Edited October 2, 2004 by Custom House Kid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooner_girl4eva Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 Well after tonights final GP we have 2 aussies through, 3 swedes, 3 poles and 1 dane. So I wouldn estimate that we'll have 2 brits given places in Nicholls & Richardson, Hans Andersen for the Danes, Holta for the Norwegian fans and for 2 good performances at the end of the season and I really hope Sullivan gets the final place. I think the final place will be between, Ryan, Bjarne and Lukas Dryml. I don't think Dryml should be picked just for the Czech fans interest as he's been practically non-existent all year, where as Ryan is a proven GP winner and Bjarne has a good future ahead of him, I hope BSI don't make us wait too long for the news of the 5 riders chosen.....and I also hope Ole doesn't have too much of an impact on who goes though as if so I can Bjarne getting the nod over Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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