The Grim Reaper Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 "So Mark, you've been eliminated after two rides again, what happened?" "Yeh ya know I injured my neck getting out of bed this morning". F*** me!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Silver Bee Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 What annoys me is that he is so rubbish (to be polite) in the grand prix and yet scores god knows how many points for anrena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody-the-bee Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 welcome back TGR haven't heard much of you lately agreed. i dont think there could be much more difference between his league and GP riding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Loram and Sulllivan proved yet again that they are past it on the grand prix stage, surely now they MUST win one of the next two GP's to stand any chance of a GP slot next season?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody-the-bee Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 i doubt loram will be in next year's series. we'll have nicholls and loram, and they wont award us a 3rd british rider, especially on this year's evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 No Loram, Nicholls will get seeded due to injury and other stuff, lee would get 1 and if lee gets in the top 8, Floppy stands more chance than Loram to be perfectly honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joanne Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Welcome back GR, I missed you Must have missed that bit when i nipped upstairs. Unfortunately Mark doesn't seem suited to GPs. Although I like him I don't really like the attitude to blame anything for losing sometimes. Come on Mark, get it together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzieQ Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Mark has always stated that he would put his racing in Britain above the GP's, he has been World Champion and no matter what Trick might say, you can never gain that same feeling again of seeing your childhood dream come true and lifting the World Championship for the first time. I would be rather surprised is Mark is given a permenant wild card again for next season but then again it saves me a lot of money as I will only go to the British GP in 2005 and not bother with others that I have attended in the past few years just to watch Mark race. To those of you that comment on how he always finds something to blame, no doubt you would still slate him if he said that he rode like a complete pratt! Remember it was Steve Brandon that brought up the neck problem first, prior to that Mark said that he just didn't cut it! On the fact of despairing with the GP's - I am hoping that with next seasons change in number of riders etc that they will finally stop this stupid thing of 2 Wildcards just for that meeting! When the actual GP riders are trying to score as many points as they can to either win the Grand Prix Series or just qualify for next year it really bugs the hell out of me that some "fly be night" can come along and throw a spanner in the works! I know they are only trying to show they are good enough to beat some of these guys and I congratulate them for that - but it still really rattles me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooner_girl4eva Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Loram and Sulllivan proved yet again that they are past it on the grand prix stage, surely now they MUST win one of the next two GP's to stand any chance of a GP slot next season?! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I dont think you can say Sullivan is past it. Loram is older than him and has been there, done that etc and been the World Champion where as Ryan still has quite a few more years in him. It has been a disastrous year for him and he does seem to be struggling in the leagues a bit too so I just reckon his machinery is nowhere near to the standards it should be and he is low on confidence. This isnt the end of Ryan, he can bounce back next season - just hope he does have a GP place so he can prove it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Just because he is younger doesn't make his past it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derwent Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 What annoys me is that he is so rubbish (to be polite) in the grand prix and yet scores god knows how many points for anrena <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You could also apply that to Mikael Max, his GP performances are nowhere near the standard of his EL racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom House Kid Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 (edited) Mark is a racer and not a gater! To be fair, I have not seen all the meeting on TV but looked in from time to time! IMHO the track was a pile of s**t. Give me a temporary track any day! Edited September 4, 2004 by Custom House Kid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splatty Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 IMHO the track was a pile of s**t. Give me a temporary track any day! i'd expect that from an Arena fan! That was a proper track and the kind that we should be aspiring to have more in this country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 Sullivan is just over rated pure and simple,a complete front runner,hardly ever gets by anyone.Mark just aint bringing his league form to the GPs but times are a changing with the likes of AJ.Holta,Zagar etc and you need to be on top of your game to do well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill leahy Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 the track last night was not the same as all year, even Zager said that: they took the top bit off, to make it slicker, who decides that?.. but the hole/rut on the third/fourth bend was as good as any man made one ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 I think BSI should cut the GP series down to about 4 or 6 meetings. The meetings would be a little special once again rather than becoming run of the mill like they are now. EL fans complain when they see the same teams visiting a few times a season, that's almost how the GP's seem now on every 2 weeks. If it wasn't for wanting to see how Crumpy does on his quest to become WC I probably wouldn't be bothered watching them all. As for Mark, it's great that he enjoys league racing more than the GP's. He's been World Champion, has nothing to prove and will always be a great in the eyes of british fans and around the world no doubt. Not bad from a speedway career imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feline Fine Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 I say more respect for riders who put their team above their individual aspirations. Nothing more annoying or irritating than watching someone do poorly for their club, but then excel in individuals! Mark has the right attitude imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 AJ.Holta,Zagar etc and you need to be on top of your game to do well. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> How does Holta fit into that little group? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 Why can't people do both? You could always put Niels's form in the gp/world cup/ individual events with Loram's form in the league and you would be sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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