f-s-p Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 from http://www.sr.se/radiosporten/nyheter/arti...?artikel=466651 "Speedway: Nya svenska GP-arenor De två svenska arenor som haft GP-tävlingar de senaste säsongerna, Stockholm Stadion och Ullevi är inte aktuella längre. De engelska arrangörerna har ledsnat på banornas regnkänslighet och söker nya. Båda arenorna är regnkänsliga. Ullevi fick ställa in förra året då banorna inte höll för regnvädret dagarna innan och i år fick träningen före tävlingsdagen ställas in - också den gången var ett regn boven. De engelska arrangörerna Benfield sports BSI, chansar inte en gång till med Ullevi och på Stadion ska man dessutom lägga om löparbanorna. Cardiff, Köpenhamn och Hamar, andra icke permanenta speedwaybanor, har tak som skydd och därför söker BSI nu redan färdiga speedwaybanor i Sverige som klarar ett ev regn bättre. Avesta motorstadion ligger mycket bra till – Masarnas hemmarena har ju varit GP-värd förr, 2003 då strejken satte stopp för tävlingar på Stadion. Och där jobbar man nu hårt för att få ett bli en permanent GP-arena. Planer finns för att förbättra arenan ytterligare – mycket gjordes till GP-tävlingen 2003. Nu väntar man bara på ett positivt svar från de engelska arrangörerna. En annan arena i Sverige som kan bli aktuell, med stor publikkapacitet, närhet till flygplats och god hotellkapacitet, är Eskilstunas nybyggda stadion." Basically it says that due to the fact that these venues have no roof, and a temp track is vulnerable to hard rain, they are thinking/decided to move the GP's to permanent track's. Eskilstuna and Avesta are likely to stage these meetings next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulli Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 (edited) Eskilstuna and Avesta are likely to stage these meetings next year. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hopefully Avesta then Ryan can win it again Edited September 3, 2004 by Sulli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhaines Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Thats great news. More chance of riders like Gollob & Loram who don't like the temp tracks having a good season next year (if they are in it that is) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mrs Adams Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Hopefully Avesta then Ryan can win it again Remember Sulli, if it is Avesta, thats Leigh's home track in Sweden. He'll be tough to beat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulli Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Remember Sulli, if it is Avesta, thats Leigh's home track in Sweden. He'll be tough to beat! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Beat him last time didn't he Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 This news has positive and negative aspects surrounding it. Starting with the positive as it has been said they are better tracks and provide better racing and are no doubt far cheaper however for a company promosing to raise the profile of Speedway GP by staging meetings at the big stadiums surely this is a step backwards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 I was told the day after the Stockholm GP that it was the last one there because they are having a new running track installed and won't allow a speedway track to be built on it. Running at Avesta etc though is a backwards step for BSI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 (edited) I also think staging two GP's in Sweden is too much, Grand Prixs are hardly cheap these days and looking at the crowd at Ullevi people are staying away. In my opinion the perfect GP season would look something like this in a few years time: GP of Norway - Hamar Viking Ship Stadium GP of Sweden - ???? GP of Poland - Slaski Stadium (I know it failed last time but again they staged two GP's in one country (hardly the wealthiest country either) with tickets at high prices, in my opinion marketed well the national stadium would be perfect for speedway with Poland having the biggest fan base) GP of Denmark - Copenhagen GP of France - Stad De France (Ambitious I know but this was a venue BSI were talking about a few years ago and stages Moto X meetings in front of large crowds) GP of Asia! – One of the World Cup Football Stadiums (Asian countries go mad for things if they like them and this could if marketed well launch speedway on the world scale) GP of USA - ? (Penhall was talking about promoting a meeting in the US, like a breakthrough in Asia this would launch speedway as a major world sport!) GP of Monaco – Monaco Football Stadium – (Wild I know but another BSI idea, hold the GP near the F1 weekend!) GP of Great Britain - Millennium Stadium ( Obvious why and also if made the last round would hopefully reap the benefits of success in Asia, USA and Europe and fill the stadium up for the ultimate climax!) 9 rounds that could change the speedway world! Edited September 4, 2004 by JT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 I think it's a cost cutting thing.Couldn't see Sweden carrying on with 2 GP's either for too long,same as Poland.When they only get 8,000 for a GP and some league matches are getting 15,000,it's not sustainable.Seems like Bydgoszcz have got themselves in enough financial trouble.As for a GP in Norway is that secure for the future?. Can't see any of the other choices taking off,maybe France for a while.Personally i think in a few years they will be hard pushed to get 6 Countries/GP's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 10 rounds that could change the speedway world! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nine JT - you've duplicated the USA one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 I think there will be 2 GP's in Sweden and Poland in the future. Cant remember the population of Denmark at the moment, but speedway is very big in Denmark (you should have seen the setup of some of the U16 riders in the EC recently), but not big enough to support two meetings. Some countries have to stage two meetings. It is though in Sweden and Poland, and the reason for this years low number of spectators, is the f##kup with the Ullevi track last year. So harder work next year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackett Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 Basically it says that due to the fact that these venues have no roof, and a temp track is vulnerable to hard rain, they are thinking/decided to move the GP's to permanent track's. Eskilstuna and Avesta are likely to stage these meetings next year. Nothing to do with the cost of hiring such venues and the crowds numbers reduced from last year !?!?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Know Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 The track at avesta is good but the rest of the place is not for attracting sponsors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusky Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 Basically it says that due to the fact that these venues have no roof, and a temp track is vulnerable to hard rain, they are thinking/decided to move the GP's to permanent track's. Eskilstuna and Avesta are likely to stage these meetings next year. Nothing to do with the cost of hiring such venues and the crowds numbers reduced from last year !?!?!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My sources in Sweden suggest that there are 3 tracks in the running, those mentioned above, plus Mallila. The reason for the changes are that the Stockholm stadium will be unavailable to speedway in the future due to the soon to be installed running track (as mentioned by Rob). The Gothenburg situation is that the only suitable free dates are in late August early Seoptember, when Sweden is susceptible to rain. Given there experience of last year, and this, it was decided that this was a no go situation, and that the meeting must be held on a permanent track, with proven drainage capabilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Meynell Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 The reason for the changes are that the Stockholm stadium will be unavailable to speedway in the future due to the soon to be installed running track Not to mention the poor crowds there! and that the meeting must be held on a permanent track, with proven drainage capabilities. Which is no doubt cheaper as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Meynell Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Some countries have to stage two meetings. I think BSI are finally getting found out. Despite the hype, there is a very limited market for the SGP, and the lack of expansion is undoubtedly down to no-one willing to take the financial risk of hosting a GP. With the loss of Ullevi, the SGP is now down to just three 'prestige' GPs - in Cardiff and Copenhagen and Poland. The other six are more-or-less making-up the numbers, as even the other GP in Poland doesn't draw great crowds. Who still thinks that BSI are doing a fantastic job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Meynell Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 In my opinion the perfect GP season would look something like this in a few years time: But who will you find to take the financial risk of staging GPs in non-speedway countries. Obviously Monaco wasn't interested, as nothing seems to come of the much-trumpeted relationship with Prince Albert (or whatever his name was). GP of Norway - Hamar Viking Ship Stadium Can it survive on crowds of 2-3,000? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sward Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Who still thinks that BSI are doing a fantastic job? I do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Know Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 Why does kw always moan about bsi., there is no one better to do the job so why keep going on about it.(maybe they should go round with silly haircuts and suits ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleco Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 Monaco? France? How many people knows in this countrys what speedway is? But nobody mention Slovenia..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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