The Grim Reaper Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 After 25 heats the biggest surprise is the fact that Nigel Pearson hasn't mentioned the Speedway Star magazine once. He really is there only as proof that Tony Millard is the best commentator Sky have. As for Ermolenko, well he is so pro Nicki Pedersen tonight you can almost hear him gathering twigs to build a nest in the studio so he can have NP's babies. Sadly I promised to give £1 to charity for every time Ermolenko said "buddy" tonight, so I'll have to sack one of the servants on Monday. I have to admit that I've been wrong about Nicki P so far. I can't believe the way the dirty bas***d threw himself onto Grump's boot, he really should have been excluded. Well done to Loram for completing his two rides, he makes you proud to be British.Sophie: " Bad luck Mark, talk us through what happened". Mark: " Yeh ya know, I was a bit constipated this morning, & the track is a bit oval, but I gave it my best shot". Did anyone else notice how Hans Anderson deliberately slowed down in the last race to give the other three riders a chance to catch up? I think we should all throw a breeze block at him for being so fast. Sadly you wont be hearing from me for a while as I'm going to spend a couple of months in my Spanish apartment. Bad luck. Oh & the track was rubbishe tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH M Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 I think Spain are quite up to date and they have such a thing as the internet too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storming Norman Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 I've also had enough of Nigel Pearson and Sam. Pearson is like the lad next door suddenly asked to have a go at commentating a G Prix after a few hours coaching. Sam's american expressions now grate as do his inevitable bias to "Greg". Bring back Millard and Kelvin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 I personally thought the track provided great entertainment as the meeting went on, I agree about Loram though aswell as Max and Sullivan, they may be able to cut it in league speedway but when it comes to the GP's their younger counterparts such as Iversen, Bjerre, Jonsson, Andersen etc show that on the international stage even the Scandanvian youngsters are overtaking the veteran campaigners. In my opinion all three of these riders must win a GP or at least make a final if they will have any chance of a seeded place next season. Maybe Sullivan who has made a final and a semi this season has a stronger case than Loram or Sullivan but it is frightening to see how fast the younger Scandanvians are coming along! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garf Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 I personally thought the track provided great entertainment as the meeting went on, I agree about Loram though aswell as Max and Sullivan, they may be able to cut it in league speedway but when it comes to the GP's their younger counterparts such as Iversen, Bjerre, Jonsson, Andersen etc show that on the international stage even the Scandanvian youngsters are overtaking the veteran campaigners. In my opinion all three of these riders must win a GP or at least make a final if they will have any chance of a seeded place next season. Maybe Sullivan who has made a final and a semi this season has a stronger case than Loram or Sullivan but it is frightening to see how fast the younger Scandanvians are coming along! Not all of them though. The Poole-wonderboy was not so fast tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 (edited) Aww Garf - didn't think you were the harsh type. Can't be too ctritical on Antonio - from an interview I read today he'd never even been to a GP before today let alone ridden in one so don't think you can read too much into his early exit. Wait 'til it's for real next year... As for the GP...not one of the better ones although the racing did get better towards the end. Still can't see how people prefer big fast tracks like that - leave me cold. Give me a smaller track with plenty of racing lines any day. Edited August 21, 2004 by rabbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooner_girl4eva Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 The Sky commentators really irratated me tonight. Sam Ermolenko has got it in for Nicki so much so he found it funny when Crumpy kicked him. If it had been vice versa, Nicki would have got a bollocking big time. At the end of the day a good commentator should be objective, fair enough you can tak up your own country, so yes talk up the Brits but I think Sam should get over his spat with Nicki. Also Nigel Pearson who I normally don't have a bad word against, was trying to stir trouble tonight with comments over Nicki & Hans. He really wanted bad comments said about them both and on several ocassions, Sam changed the topic of conversation. A professional shouldn't be acting so childish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenn Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 (edited) Still can't see how people prefer big fast tracks like that - leave me cold. Give me a smaller track with plenty of racing lines any day. I agree! Id much rather watch close tight racing than super fast racing! Speaking of super fast.........Didnt Andreas look SUPER fast in his first few races! Can i also just say............Well Done Kaj!!! Best GP performance to date! I was shouting soooooooooooooooo loud! Edited August 21, 2004 by SullyRox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 (edited) Still can't see how people prefer big fast tracks like that - leave me cold. Give me a smaller track with plenty of racing lines any day. Unfortunately for you and many others Rabbit, if the SGP is to progress as the premier motorsport series it sets out to be then it needs to continue to race at stunning venues such as Ullevi, where by certain limitations (football pitch inside at Ullevi, Millenium allows part of pitch to be taken up) mean the tracks have to be large, big tracks must be a part of the SGP series. In my opinion the bigger tracks have come along way since that terrible night at Berlin (Remember that!), I cant see them racing at Ullevi next year though especially after the crowd tonight. Going slightly off topic whatever happened to Benefield and their promise of SGP racing in countries such as New Zealand and places such as Monaco? Edited August 21, 2004 by JT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 I think both G.P's in Sweden were poorly attended and the first one in Poland got less than some of their league meetings.Is this the premier series or what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 Maybe they're pricing it too highly and now the novelty is wearing off people in all the countries are staying at ome to watch on TV. Plenty of people have said that they've done Cardiff now and don't go because of the ticket prices - look at the 2005 tickets - £50 for a middle tier back straight seat. It's not cheap. I agree with what JT is saying about the venues, and it's great to see the GP is such prestigious stadiums but having them half empty is just as bad as holding the event in smaller less well known places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 (edited) I think both G.P's in Sweden were poorly attended and the first one in Poland got less than some of their league meetings.Is this the premier series or what Can I remind you of Cardiff and Denmark! In my opinion it's certainly more entertaining at the moment than the EL! Edited August 21, 2004 by JT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 Maybe they're pricing it too highly and now the novelty is wearing off people in all the countries are staying at ome to watch on TV. Plenty of people have said that they've done Cardiff now and don't go because of the ticket prices - look at the 2005 tickets - £50 for a middle tier back straight seat. It's not cheap. I agree with what JT is saying about the venues, and it's great to see the GP is such prestigious stadiums but having them half empty is just as bad as holding the event in smaller less well known places. Excelllent point Rabbit and one Benifield should seriously look at! They do seem to be alienating the fans that would maybe have followed every GP in its pre-Benifield days! I certainly believe the SGP series could fill up most stadiums in the world if priced reasonably and shown on terestial TV (but thats a different discussion altogether!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 Can I remind you of Cardiff You can do better than that,you can tell me where it is.I've been trying to find Cardiff and Krsko on the map Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 As for the GP...not one of the better ones although the racing did get better towards the end. Still can't see how people prefer big fast tracks like that - leave me cold. Give me a smaller track with plenty of racing lines any day. Tell me you're kidding. There was some awesome racing, illustrating the fact that the interim circuit had at least three racing lines. Just to choose one example at random, have you seen better than the race between Laukkanen and Jensen? And there were plenty more examples of fine, close racing to choose from. Big - and particularly wide - is always better (Sheffield, KL and best of the lot, Hyde Road, Manchester in the good old days.) Most small tracks are restricted in width and tend to have tight bends that restrict passing opportunities unless mistakes are made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 Just my personal opinion AndyM. I did say the racing got better as the meeting went on and there were some good races, but there were also a lot of very strung out heats, particularly in the early stages. I just prefer smaller tracks, each to their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Bee Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 (edited) Got back from Sweden late last night, via Copenhagen, minus my bags which are somewhere at Copenhagen airport!! What a brill weekend it was!! Its the first Grand Prix I've been to and I'll definately be going to more, it was great.... managed to catch my flight out, which had AJ, Jason Crump and Michael Max on board. who all looked a tad blearly eyed at 5am! Edited August 23, 2004 by Queen Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the Mic Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 Maybe they're pricing it too highly and now the novelty is wearing off people in all the countries are staying at ome to watch on TV. Plenty of people have said that they've done Cardiff now and don't go because of the ticket prices - look at the 2005 tickets - £50 for a middle tier back straight seat. It's not cheap. I agree with what JT is saying about the venues, and it's great to see the GP is such prestigious stadiums but having them half empty is just as bad as holding the event in smaller less well known places. Rabbit I agree 100%. Not sure what BSI are trying to do, but some of the prices I have seen are ridiculous. Is it any surprise half the stadia are empty. Cardiff is clearly an exception & it IS a fantastic day out, but even so, there will come a time when people won't pay inflated prices. I recall when the GP first came to stadia like this that BSI said that they would sell tickets @ £10 to fill the venues up. Mmmm..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 now the novelty is wearing off people in all the countries are staying at ome to watch on TV. Perhaps, as has been said in the past, there are simply too many GP's so they are not so special to fans anymore, too much of good thing etc etc. Absence makes the heart grow fonder! Perhaps it would be a good idea if BSI cut down the number of GP's, perhaps they should reliquish their hold over the GP's altogether and allow the hosting nations the profits from them. The fans would be more inclined to support the GP's if their nation's speedway authorities were pocketing the profit and using it to the benefit of the sport in their own country! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garf Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 Aww Garf - didn't think you were the harsh type. Can't be too ctritical on Antonio - from an interview I read today he'd never even been to a GP before today let alone ridden in one so don't think you can read too much into his early exit. Wait 'til it's for real next year... As for the GP...not one of the better ones although the racing did get better towards the end. Still can't see how people prefer big fast tracks like that - leave me cold. Give me a smaller track with plenty of racing lines any day. I'm not, but I could not help it. It was a try to get a few replies from SS. It is usually so funny when he comes with his "not at all" biased opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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