Peter S. Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 And One Kick doesn't make him a dirty rider! True, but many other incidents he's been involved in do! Kevin - I am no fan of Jason Crump but I have never viewed him as a dirty rider! So now you just saw him kicking a fellow rider doing 60mph. What is your new view ?????? Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest richtea78 Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 So now you just saw him kicking a fellow rider doing 60mph. What is your new view ?????? Theyre probably only doing 40 max at that point My point was that you might as well accept it as it happens at that level - and I dont care who does it really, be it Danes, Swedes Poles. Of course the Brits would never do anything like that as they are all perfect and above suspicion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzieQ Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 Kevin - I am no fan of Jason Crump but I have never viewed him as a dirty rider! So now you just saw him kicking a fellow rider doing 60mph. What is your new view ?????? Peter Still the same! What he did was wrong (as many have said) but still not dirty in my book! note to self: Get round to writing that book! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter S. Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 Don´t give up your day job Tabby3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzieQ Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 Don´t give up your day job Tabby3 Damn it! That is what my husband says too! he says that he cannot afford to keep me ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW17 Racer Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 Disgusting and dirty, and I can't see how anyone can defend it. It also shows that he's still got that slightly crazy streak, and there's still plenty of time for him to cock up and regain his number 2 slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whacko Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 Crump is scum and should be banned, I expect him to sign for a terry russesl team in the not to distant future - John Perrin can not have riders of this nature in his team - the man has good morals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 So the argument is that one, "tiny, little, unnoticed, hidden, spetacular" kick dosn´t make Crump a dirty rider. Excuse me, are we in the the same sport ? Regards Peter S. Trying to be silent Well there you go, its a pity Crump didnt kick Pedersen in the nuts and settle his hash once and for all like twas done in the old days..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Bazarou Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 (edited) ok all sing along . . . Hong Kong Crumpy, number one super guy. Hong Kong Crumpy, quicker than the human eye. He's got style, a groovy style, and a bike that just won't stop. When the going gets tough, he's really rough, with a Hong Kong Crumpy kick (Hi-Ya!) Hong Kong Crumpy, number one super guy. Hong Kong Crumpy, quicker than the human eye. Hong Kong Crumpy, he's fan-riffic (gong!) Remember seeing Roman Matousek and Martin Dugard at Brandon in 1990 knocking 7 bells out of each other for 4 laps in one race. On one circuit both crossed the line side by side probably only 3 or 4 mtrs from the kerb, both with their legs on each others bikes ! get outta the way ! Roman got the race verdict but there was plenty of activity in the pits afterwards. Elbows are an extension to the bars and we sent plenty of the sharpening going on nowadays, but feet in a deliberate attempt to shove an opponent aside is taking it a bit far, at least everyone walked away. Anyone remember Gollob asking Henka Gustafsson to 'cough' mid race at the German (Abensberg) GP in 1995 - grabbed by the Pole literally ! Edited August 22, 2004 by Papa Bazarou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 Anyone remember Gollob asking Henka Gustafsson to 'cough' mid race at the German (Abensberg) GP in 1995 - grabbed by the Pole literally ! Yep, I remember that, but fortunately Gollob has matured now - something I doubt Crump will ever do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jill Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 crumpy is a cool guy. met him at worky at the beginning of this year... we were having a raffle for aidan collins and crumpy baught tickets but didnt have a clue what a raffle was. he was very quiet unlike the chatty crumpy u see on sky b4 i actually met him i couldnt stand the bloke. shows how mush your view can change cant comment on what happened as i aint seen it yet but every rider loses it at somepoint... shame to hear crumpy lost it dont think ive ever seen crumpy in controversy well don hans im sure u deserved it ( not being funny here just aint see the meeting yet ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 It dosnt take much to get people upset does it? no wonder theres no characters in the sport now, and how we bemoan that fact, dont know what some of todays fans would have made of some of the characters of yesteryear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jill Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 It dosnt take much to get people upset does it? doesnt these days.... i actually fine a bit of contreversy amusing ( as long as it aint dangerous ) like nicki on the phone to toney steele or a punch up... but when it come to riders trying to hurt other riders by dangerour riding thats another story. as what hans done to scott and what crumpy done to nicki niether of them caused the other one harm ( ok we lost the SWC but that was already lost IMO )... unless someone delibratly takes someone out through dangerous riding i dont care what they get up to.. at the end of the day its just a bit of added entertainment for the fans.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 The riding was a lot harder years ago but fair in most cases, today by comparison they would be getting kicked out, difference being they could dish it out and take it like football which is now becoming a non contact sport, the tackles from games in the seventies from the harris,s, stiles, bremners, etc would get them banned today but there was a lot less injuries than today, hard riding from years ago albeit fair would today be condemed as dirty and the likes of pedersen etc wouldnt hold a candle to some of those guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 No doubt about it - riders are whinging about unfair riding a whole bunch more than they did 30 years ago. They also seem to go down a lot easier nowadays, possibly in some cases to trick refs. Crump is a shining paragon of virtue compared to many riders! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presenter Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 Crump knew that the exclusion was on its way...otherwise we would have been witness to the usual dummy spitting, helmet throwing tantrums... The only question i'd like to pose....How would Crump have reacted if it had been Pedersen kicking him?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Davis Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 How would Crump have reacted if it had been Pedersen kicking him?? I dunno but if Nicki had kicked Jason the people on this forum would have reacted that much that we would be on page 185 by now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenn Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 Whats done is done!! I thought Nicki/Hans etc and their controversial personalities were good for the sport!! Is it different when it Jason?? Fair enough it was a kick.........reason for kicking is currently unknown............Wont you all be gutted if theres a genuine un-Nicki related reason? As for Jason being dirty.......................He doesnt hold a candle to ALOT of other riders! It was probably just a slip of the foot..........wrong but he got excluded and no one else was hurt! Get over it guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 Seen some hard riding over the years, but I thought Crump's actions last night were very foolish. He was riding well enough and surely there was no need for those sort of tactics. He was rightly excluded but how would he be be feeling today if he had gone out in his next heat with an e.f. or tapes exclusion, after that mindless kick. How nice it was last night to see riders still able to race hard but fair, Rickardsson v's Hancock and Hancock v's Jonsson. Good entertainment with a bit of respect for each other, and nobody hitting the deck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robyn1972 Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 The point which seems to have been missed is that a rider kicking another rider is NOT a racing incident! It was closer to an unprovoked assault, but whichever way, it has nothing to do with racing. I hope Nicki puts in a complaint about him.....hard riding is one thing, but behaviour of that type has no place in any sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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