shazzybird Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 That's the Aussie fan in you sick because you were knocked out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyinRyan Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 That's the Aussie fan in you sick because you were knocked out Which part of I am not Australian do you not understand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 (edited) For your rudeness I will ask where have I said you were? Edited August 10, 2004 by shazzybird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyinRyan Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 (edited) That's the Aussie fan in you sick because you were knocked out Edited August 10, 2004 by FlyinRyan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Being called an Aussie fan does not make you Austrailian  Just like JY being a Dane fan that doesn't make her Danish does it  Derrrrrrrrrrrrrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzieQ Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Exactly! I was an Aussie Fan on Tuesday and Thursday Night but I ain't from Oz! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Shazzybird 1 - FlyinRyan 0. Go on Shazzy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyinRyan Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Exactly! I was an Aussie Fan on Tuesday and Thursday Night but I ain't from Oz! Sorry but am I missing something? If you are British you surely support Britain, not Australia or whoever, or do you just like to have your cake and eat it? I find that a bit strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Whats wrong with supporting the Aussies in the meeting the Brits are not in? I too was supporting the Aussies (and then the Poles!) in the meetings that Team GB were not in. I wanted the Australians to come 2nd to team GB, hence the fact I supported them in the meetings they rode in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzieQ Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 I supported the Brits on Monday at Eastbourne and Saturday at Poole when they were riding! Â Tuesday and Thursday I was supporting the Aussies (I view them as relations of ex-brit convicts anyway - lol) Â It has nothing to do with cake (note to self, go get some cake in a minute, hungry) just that I know most of the Aussies and support them WHEN Team GB are not racing! Â Also, I may be from Poole but that didn't stop me getting rather annoyed (uderstatement) when Antonio lost control and too Boycey off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Shazzybird 1 - FlyinRyan 0. Go on Shazzy! Gem, for gawds sake don't encourage her, she doesn't need it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyinRyan Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Whats wrong with supporting the Aussies in the meeting the Brits are not in? I too was supporting the Aussies (and then the Poles!) in the meetings that Team GB were not in. I wanted the Australians to come 2nd to team GB, hence the fact I supported them in the meetings they rode in. I support Chelsea, but they are not playing today so I will support Arsenal. Is there any difference in that statement to yours? I doubt many people do that though. Weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 Flyin Ryan please note Middlo is a mate of Shazzy Bird Tabby a few others etc so they wont like anyone criticising him. They are quite happy for their national team year after year turning up for the world cup and not winning it. A lot of these people on the forum have no blood in their veins or any passion when it comes to speedway and think oh dont say nothing bad about that rider or manager it will hurt the poor little souls feelings. Just ignore their posts they will go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryce Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 (edited) Just ignore their posts they will go away. Â Well Vincent, since the huge majority of the people on the forum think your criticism of Middlo is unjustified, you'd best hope that we all stay. Otherwise you'll have a very small audience for your wind ups. Â Oh and BTW, I have never met anyone involved with Team GB other than as a fan on the terraces. They are not my mates, and I have no personal loyalty to them. I just think you're wrong about Middlo. Edited August 11, 2004 by Bryce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 Hans is a good young rider who has built himself a bit of a reputation of being fairly ruthless on track. And as a result his reputation normally would have seen him show Karlsson no mercy on the outside.  If he had concentrated on winning the race, chances are Karlsson would have had to shut off on the outside of Hans, allowing Scott to manoeuvre an inside line on the Swede going into the third and fourth bend. This is something else that is bugging me about this statement. What is being said here is that basically Hans cheated GB out of the World Cup by blocking Scott Nicholls. Therefore he is being seen as some sort of cheat etc.  However, it would seem that if he had shown 'Karlsson no mercy on the outside' and helped GB instead he would be okay.  It's complete double standards being displayed here. Hans Andersen isn't British any more than Peter Karlsson is. Giving statements like this to the press cetainly don't help what was already becoming a volatile situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the Mic Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 Grachan, I think you have perhaps misunderstood what Neil is trying to say. Hans is well known for being pretty ruthless on track & I think what Middlo is perhaps trying to say is it would have been better if Hans had simply ridden his own race. Â My experience of watching him would have suggested to me that his normal MO would have been to keep it all screwed on going into turn 3 & had that been the case, there is every chance PK would have had to slow a little, because Hans would have stopped his run. This is what he would normally do, so why didn't he do it this time? Â Don't think I am subscribing to the "Hans cost us the SWC" view - I am not, but it would have been better had he ridden as he normally does rather than look for PK & then shut off to make PK's third turn run clearer & easier than it would have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 (edited) Intersting and sensible posts on this topic at last. Â You will notice that Han's finished last in the race so in effect he went from 1st and the first bend to last by about the end of the second lap. Considering Gollob had such a mare I would NOT have predicted him (Hans) coming last at all! Particulalry as he had been the Danes top rider on the night, therefore was something genuinely up with him or his bike / or was he just doing that for effect? Â Know one will ever truely know. Â From what I know of Andersen (which i admit isn't that much) he would never normally throw a race so why the accusations now. You only have to look at his efforts in the Grand Prix series to realise he is a tough bugga on the track. Â Before the race started I would have thought he could have been a definate spoiler possibly winning it or coming second, hence his last place did surprise me. Â BTW as one final comment when he looked round going down the back straight Karlsson was catching him up at a rapid rate of knots, and was drawing up alongside him, any racer blessed with any sense might sense someone approaching and look round. Â anyway its all over now, please feel free to disagree with me but lets remain cordial about it. Edited August 11, 2004 by General Melchitt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzieQ Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 (edited) Flyin Ryan please note Middlo is a mate of Shazzy Bird Tabby a few others etc so they wont like anyone criticising him. They are quite happy for their national team year after year turning up for the world cup and not winning it. A lot of these people on the forum have no blood in their veins or any passion when it comes to speedway and think oh dont say nothing bad about that rider or manager it will hurt the poor little souls feelings. Just ignore their posts they will go away. V.V. for a start my discussions with FlyinRyan have been around my support of the Aussies in their qualifier and the Race Off!  Yes I admit to be a good friend of Neil's, I have known him for many (Many!) years but that doesn't mean that I will not criticise if there is just cause for that!  You suggest that I have no passion for speedway! Maybe you should check with people that were within a 50m radius of me during each of the SWC rounds, there are plenty that say they have not known anyone be so pasionate about speedway before!  I am not happy that Team GB did not win on Saturday, however, I am not going to blame any of the riders, management, track or anything else for that happening. I am (like many other British Supporters) gutted at only getting silver, yet still proud of the boys for all giving it 110%. We could go on for ever about the "what if's" and "if only's" but that will not change the fact that we ended Saturday as runners-up in a meeting which will be remembered for a longtime, not necessarily for the right reasons!  As for being ignored and going away! That isn't going to happen and I am taking your latest post as offensive! Edited August 11, 2004 by Tabby3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 (edited) Flyin Ryan please note Middlo is a mate of Shazzy Bird Tabby a few others etc so they wont like anyone criticising him. They are quite happy for their national team year after year turning up for the world cup and not winning it. A lot of these people on the forum have no blood in their veins or any passion when it comes to speedway and think oh dont say nothing bad about that rider or manager it will hurt the poor little souls feelings. Just ignore their posts they will go away. My god you have a lot ot learn VV.  As for not hearing anything bad against Riders and Team Managers wasn't us that started the thread about ooosting Middlo out and replacing him with a Chuckle Brother who incidently my family have known for a very long time, with my postings I don't slate him ....... I joke something you know nothing about!  Ignoring posts. I do try to ignore you as often as I can, especially after what you had told a few forum members what I was supposed to have done with/to you! Met you once at Eastbourne and that was scary enough! You are a very very sad person there are a lot of really nice people within the sport that would be in with a chance a long long time before you even got to. (Just for the record it's something I've never done within speedway and don't intend to start either!)  Anyone that will offer to have their hair shaved at Wimbourne Road at the end of the season (if he could get enough sponsors for it) when/if Poole lose the league............... who cares what you do with your hair, tell you what I'll personally come down to Poole and do it for you! Make you look even more of a prát ..... although you are doing a great job of that by yourself.  With the postings you have made this week, I must admit I don't find Arena a very appealing place anymore just in case I bump into you there.............. Sorry Arena fans this is not aimed at any of the others who are all fantastic people and I have a lot of friends there from Rye House, Canterbury and Hackney. Friends that I have made over the 36 years that I have been going to speedway oops forgot I don't have passion for speedway do I as you so rightly pointed out (wrong again VV this is becoming a habit now!!!!!!!)  Middlo ......... I met him through the VSRA a speedway gathering & was a very enjoyable social evening with a lot of different people from every walk of life that had participated in the sport over the years. To join the VSRA you have to have done something for Speedway to be able to join, I cannot be a full member like Honey etc as I was never a speedway rider, with the help of Honey I became an Associate Member to be one of these you have to have done something more than being a fan, helping behind the scenes on race days and non race days. Even being a girl (contrary to rumours ..... yep I am one) I did help at Kingsmead for a number of years up until closure in 1987. Bugga keep forgetting you say I have no passion for the sport sorry  So Mr Whateveryourrealnameis please get your facts right before you start spouting your mouth off about me. Edited August 11, 2004 by shazzybird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 Well said Shazzybird! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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