Dave J Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 It's about time everybody stopped bitching about how we lost the world cup. I agree it was dispointing not to win but get over it! Life goes on. Sure Hans may have been in the wrong, but if Nicholls hadn't of pulled up in an earlier heat then the score may have been different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FastGater Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Maybe this could have been put in an existing thread rather than creating a new one? Might have helped us to forget about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter S. Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Well the new in this thread could be that Hans Andersen just made the news in a two minute interwiev on the main national radio channel here in Denmark. Threathening behavior and direct personal threats from English fans has made him abandon tonights match and he is stunned of the reactions from this "non"incident. Laugh, be proud or whatever - but make a note that this will do speedway no good in Denmark, or England for that matter. Regards Peter PS : Note that it came out not as wining but merely stated that it wasn't possible to put up a 100% performance tonight after all the allogations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigsby Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Well the new in this thread could be that Hans Andersen just made the news in a two minute interwiev on the main national radio channel here in Denmark. Threathening behavior and direct personal threats from English fans has made him abandon tonights match and he is stunned of the reactions from this "non"incident. Laugh, be proud or whatever - but make a note that this will do speedway no good in Denmark, or England for that matter. Regards Peter PS : Note that it came out not as wining but merely stated that it wasn't possible to put up a 100% performance tonight after all the allogations. That's in your face speedway TV for you? I think it's all hot air and over excited TV presenters but Han's interview afterwards was ill-judged IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 but if Nicholls hadn't of pulled up in an earlier heat then the score may have been different. it's another IF If only the plank with the camera hadn't taken a picture at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minted Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Poor excuse if you ask me. Maybe he should take a leaf out of Nicki's book and just get on with it! For Hans Andersen, the best thing he could have done was go to Eastbourne tonight and rack up the points. Today's front page is tomorrow's chip wrapping. I'm not condoning the drivel that some idiots have been spouting, but come on, isn't he now just giving these morons what they want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzieQ Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Poor excuse if you ask me.Maybe he should take a leaf out of Nicki's book and just get on with it! For Hans Andersen, the best thing he could have done was go to Eastbourne tonight and rack up the points. Today's front page is tomorrow's chip wrapping. I'm not condoning the drivel that some idiots have been spouting, but come on, isn't he now just giving these morons what they want? My understanding was that Ipswich have R/R for Hans tonight! Apparently he has a Hand/Wrist Injury! I say no more........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steve Dixon Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Poor excuse if you ask me.Maybe he should take a leaf out of Nicki's book and just get on with it! Didn't Pedersen do a runner for a week with a coincidental non speedway hand injury? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splatty Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 shoot me down in flames if you like but he shouldn't be riding anyway - this smacks of the guy knowing he is in trouble and trying to pre-empt any possible official actions against him with a hard luck story - the medical certificate should be an interesting one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 It was only two days ago! Surely that's recent enough to let us moan for a little while yet. If we'd won I'd still be celebrating! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter S. Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 hard luck story The story actually had the unfortunate twist that brought British speedway fans down to the level og British football fans international reputation. That is definately not Hans's fault and I very well know that it is only a very minor part of all British football fans that has made this reputation just as it is also a very limited number of speedway fans that has been way past that important line since saturday. Anyone must admit that some of the posts on this forum, and especially in Hans's guestbook, is way out of line. isn't he now just giving these morons what they want? If this story hits international sports news it haven't given the morons what they wan't. That is if they wan't to have the SWC on home ground again any time soon. Regards Peter S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splatty Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 that is too easy to say Peter and it really has nothing to do with football at all - I'm not saying we SHOULD have won - i'm not saying that some of the things directed at him are correct but what I am saying is that quite clearly he brought the sport into disrepute lets not gloss over what happened with the comments of a few who went overboard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minted Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 (edited) Like I say, I can't comment on what happened with Hans as I didn't really see it on the night and I haven't seen it re run on sky. You're right, him not riding is NOT good for speedway and the reason he gave why is even worse. But these people don't think like that Peter S. They think they've won because they've gave him such a hard time. But let's be honest, they are a minority. As someone said earlier, these morons are full of hot air on the forum, but put them face to face with Hans and they wouldn't be able to string a sentence together. On the other hand, if he did do what it is alledged, he has some questions to answer, by bring the sport into disrepute but he's not exactly going to go on radio and hold his hands up, now is he? Edited August 9, 2004 by minted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest richtea78 Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 I must admit I had planned to give Hans some verbal tonight and still will if he turns up. I dont want to see him hurt like some people but think if he is worried about some name calling and such then he is a bigger coward than I had him down to be. This whole things smacks of an excuse to me - I bet its not the fans that he is worried about facing but his own team mates. The statements on the Ippo website smack of being far too scripted to me - Scott's particularly doesnt sound right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the Mic Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 In fairness, there have been very few people who have threatened Hans, but this is a forum & everyone is entitled to their opinion. Threats are OTT, but opinions are there to be shared. Bear in mind, if he hadn't shut off, won the race & PK caught him or just stayed ahead of Scott, there would be no issue. As it is, he has bought the sport into disrepute by his actions. That cannot be questioned, nor can his smug attitude in interview. His non appearance at Eastbourne tonight (if that is so) demonstrates to me that he knows he did wrong. If there was nothing to be ashamed of, he would race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the Mic Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 I agree Richtea, the comments by the Ipswich riders are too contrived for me. And why no quote from Hans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryce Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 In my opinion, Karlsson was always going to win that heat, and what Hans did didn't affect the result. Fair play to Sweden, they deserved their win. However, that does not mean that Hans' actions were acceptable in any way. His move in the race was just a silly thing to do, and then to compound matters he blatantly lied about it. Entirely because of Hans, the main talking point of what had been a wonderful tournament is whether or not race fixing is a part of speedway. For that alone, Hans should be ashamed. But so too should some of the posters who have gone way too far in terms of personal abuse. By all means be critical, but there is no call for threats or swearing. If we want to be taken seriously in our legitimate concerns about Andersen's actions and attitude, then we have to make our points in a reasoned and civilised way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the Mic Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Bryce, you are of course quite correct. The trouble is, making a complaint to the authorities will do no good, because Olsen will stick his nose in & it would all be swept under the carpet. Therefore, people vent their spleen here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garf Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 that is too easy to say Peter and it really has nothing to do with football at all - I'm not saying we SHOULD have won - i'm not saying that some of the things directed at him are correct but what I am saying is that quite clearly he brought the sport into disreputelets not gloss over what happened with the comments of a few who went overboard I think that you Brits might have to look in your own back-yard of sportsmanship, particulary in this meeting, this upset etc. And I mean the SWC 2004. Where have all the British gentlemanlike behaviour vanished ? threatening riders from abroad etc. Pure Hooliganism IMO. Talking about fairness, yahh right. Fairness in the eyes of some brits is winning by all means. Luckily there has been a majority og decent speedway-supporters, who have been able to look on the whole SWC as a success. To "slaughter" or "witch-hunt" a rider has nothing to do with fairness. I don't think he has brought the sport in to more disrepute than all these British saints on this forum (or shall we say the few opinion-making to the rest). To threat a rider on his person is almost the lowest I can ever imagine. This post is not only done because I'm Danish, but because I feel the hooliganism is about to show its ugly face here as well. Pheww, now I might be able to have a good night of sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splatty Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 (edited) Garf I wasn't going to bother but I can't resist it The British riders behaved with nothing but sportsmanship during the SWC - they were what I would describe as great ambassadors for their sport Fairness in the eyes of some brits is winning by all means sorry mate but we have not had Olsen, Nielsen, Pedersen and Andersen down the years - nuff said please quote the hooligan element because I think you will find there will only be a few posts and they are not sufficient to paint everyone else with the same colour - it is a convenient and weak argument to counter what I would consider to be real issues which drag speedway in the sporting gutter. perhaps it is coming across as a 'witch hunt' to you or 'hooliganism' but what about speedway's best interests? I'm sorry you like the guy - I'm sorry he is Danish .....but it did happen are you saying it didn't happen? and if you think it did should it be left there? and finally.... This post is not only done because I'm Danish, but because I feel the hooliganism is about to show its ugly face here as well. isn't that just a little dramatic? Edited August 9, 2004 by Splatty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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