Steve Shovlar Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 Sorry VV but you are completely wrong, and I am not saying that as a Poole fan but as a Brit. Middlo is the best manager in the country. He has bought the best out of the side. He talks to the riders, brings experience, and has earned the respect of all the riders he works with. Tonight we were one point away from glory. If Nicholls hadn't stopped it would have been a runoff, and if Pedersen hadn't clipped Havvy we would have won. There was not a single person at Wimborne Road tonight calling for the managers head. We were all proud of him and the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony159 Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 Sorry VV but you are completely wrong, and I am not saying that as a Poole fan but as a Brit. Middlo is the best manager in the country. He has bought the best out of the side. He talks to the riders, brings experience, and has earned the respect of all the riders he works with. Tonight we were one point away from glory. If Nicholls hadn't stopped it would have been a runoff, and if Pedersen hadn't clipped Havvy we would have won. There was not a single person at Wimborne Road tonight calling for the managers head. We were all proud of him and the team. 100% agree with your post Steve . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPete Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 (edited) VV is about the only one that has suggested that Middlo should go, I think that says it all about him!! Carry on Middlo, the Brits were great tonight, full of passion, and no one can ask for more, but Sweden were the deserved winners, and I think that we should accept that fact, and next year, we try again! As for blaming Andersen for losing, that is a nonsense, he did indeed allow PK to pass him, but, he also allowed Scott to go by without impeding him, therefore, if Hans had not been in the race, the result would still have been the same! Edited August 7, 2004 by BritPete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 He has bought the best out of the side. pity he couldn't buy Hans Andersen before heat 25 then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiec45 Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 Middlo has done a good job as England TM but after another World Cup has proved elusive I think it is time for Neil to step aside now as England manager and let someone else have a go. Middlo is like Sven nice bloke good at his job but doesnt have that bit extra at the top level. The BSPA should make Ronnie Russell England manager at the winter conference and mark my words with Ronnie in charge Team GB will win the world cup next year. This was the first time tonight that Middlo has had a full squad to choose from and we would have won if the couple of things that happened tonight had of gone in our favour. Ronnie Russell couldnt manage a conference team properly let alone a national speedway team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdl123 Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 the manager and the boys did us proud tonight all middlo can do is pick the team there is no better riders who could have been in the line up tonight so to say sack the manager is a load of rubbish they all did us proud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ruberoid375 Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 Sorry VV but you are completely wrong, and I am not saying that as a Poole fan but as a Brit. Middlo is the best manager in the country. He has bought the best out of the side. He talks to the riders, brings experience, and has earned the respect of all the riders he works with. Tonight we were one point away from glory. If Nicholls hadn't stopped it would have been a runoff, and if Pedersen hadn't clipped Havvy we would have won. There was not a single person at Wimborne Road tonight calling for the managers head. We were all proud of him and the team. 100% agree with your post Steve . Me too. And the first thing that comes into his head after an evening like that is the usual windup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazysue Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 How can you be calling for Middlo to go......he has done a great job, we had a grwat team this year and we proved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Star Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Well Vincent, i am not sure if you were serious or were just trying to wind everyone up or had forgotten to take your pills. Judging by the reaction you are well wrong with your opinion, i like most other people think that Neil Middleditch is doing a great job, long may he continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splatty Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 another vote for Middlo here - tis good to see our national team on the pace - how many other sports can say that. Maybe next time he won't need to feel so nervous And as for Ronnie .....I reckon Ian Steel would be getting in there first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted August 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Robbie C you say RR couldnt manage a conference team so why are Arena who he manages by the way in case you hadnt noticed sitting near the play offs look at the league table if you dont believe me when all the so called experts said we would be bottom. If he wasnt a good manager Arena wouldnt be where they are in the Elite league table. You all say you are proud of Middlo and the team but when it came to the crunch they bottled it when they were in a winning position. If the England football team had done the same you lot would have been slagging off Sven so what is the difference?? This is what is wrong with the sports in our country it seems second best is good enough. Oh England done really well they finished second!!!!!!! If Tim Henman done what Team GB did last night in a Wimbledon final e.g. winning it up till the last 2 games then blew it he would have been slated from pillar to the post. LOOK AT THE FACTS LADIES AND GENTLEMAN TEAM GB WERE WINNING LAST NIGHT AND BLEW IT IN THE LAST 2 HEATS FACT YEAH??? The buck stops with the manager. Why did we blow it in the last 2 heats?? Were the riders too nervous? if so it is Middlos job to calm them down and keep them focused before they go out to race. As I said before this is only my personal opinion and again I repeat myself for the dozy people out there who cant digest vocabulary Middlo is a GOOD team manager and a TOP MAN I like the bloke a lot he has done a good job in his time as the national team manager but look at the facts he has NOT won the World Team Cup during his time as manager which in my eyes is a failure and it is time for some fresh blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tactical Sub Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Hmm, I make that 44 posts to 1 in favour of Middlo. Make that 45, the British gave their all last night and on a great occasion for Speedway which has won it loads of new friends we were pipped at the post by an excellent group of Swedish riders. People are right to point out that this was the first time that Middlo has had all his top riders available and look what happens, we wipe the floor with Sweden and Poland once and we just get squeaked in the final, after having annihilated the favourite Danes and the Poles again. I'm not going to even comment on VV's suggestion, its designed to be deliberately provocative imo and has backfired spectacularly with the unanimous support for the men who have given us our best international week in 15 years. Having spent a month in Portugal the comparisons with Sven are ludicrous - the guys last night did not go into a defensive shell, bore the pants off everyone and hang onto a 1-0 lead ! GB attacked all night. Moreover, Middlo does not have the highest paid bunch of prima donnas in the world to choose from but just enough riders for a competitive team if all fit. IMHO the football team underchieved but, if anything, Middlo and the boys overachieved. I might as well deal with the other point which some other wind-up merchants are making about Sweden being the best team all night. Well, not true really is it, GB were in front all the way from heat 4 to heat 24 with maybe one heat exception and it was only really the last section of races where the Swedes got the better of us. Take nothing away from the Swedes as they were excellent but GB looked winners all the way and deserve nothing but credit for their performance. Mark, Lee, Gary, Joe, David, Scott and Neil - you were great and if you're all fit and on top form you'll win it next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Mark, Lee, Gary, Joe, David, Scott and Neil - you were great and if you're all fit and on top form you'll win it next year. Fingers crossed eh!!! Where will the WTC be held next year, what about in East Anglia, Peterborough, Ipswich and King's Lynn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted August 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Tac sub I agree wholeheartedly with you we will win it next year with Ronnie Russell in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tactical Sub Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Tac sub I agree wholeheartedly with you we will win it next year with Ronnie Russell in charge. in charge of driving the team bus maybe........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPete Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 (edited) VV you really are talking nonsense, to say we bottled out is pure crap, Loram got beat because he had the inside gate, and Jonsson had gate two, the best one, and THAT is the reason the Aussies failed to win through, not even Adams could win from gate one. Loram did all he could to get past Jonsson, it would have made no diference had it been a league match or ANY match, the grip was just not there, he was all over Jonsson's back wheel, but, could not find the drive to get by, also, Jonsson rode a very good tactical race to block him. Edited August 8, 2004 by BritPete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Tac sub I agree wholeheartedly with you we will win it next year with Ronnie Russell in charge. in charge of driving the team bus maybe........... Mmmmm.....LAST time Ronnie did that (i.e. drive the Hackney team bus) we ran out of diesel en route to Middlesbrough! As my fellow countryman Max Boyce would say, "I know cos I was there!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggie Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 it would have made no diference had it been a league match or ANY match, the grip was just not there, he was all over Jonsson's back wheel, but, could not find the drive to get by, And why was the grip not there?? Ole Olssen doctoring the track to suit the Danes, we heard it for ourselves last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Forget the blatant hans andersen slow up for a second the real thing that made the difference during the play off and the final was one thing and one thing only GATE ONE.The riders couldnt get off it for toffee and i bet in 50 races at poole over the last few days [have no stats]but i would hazard a guess that 6 or less people have led round the bend from gate 1,let alone win the race.Team GB put up a great fight but you have to give the swedes credit and they really upped thryre game late on.In truth even if the horrible,slimy,hated by everyone hans anderson hadnt have slowed up i still think PK would have beaten nicholls.All 5 swedes and all 5 brits gave absolutely everything for theyre respective teams,pity the same couldnt be said about the indivdual world champion who rode like a blocked drain all night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 If you are going to judge Middlo on his record then look at the GB performance over the previous world cups where severly weakened GB teams outperformed expectations. I also get the impression that Middlo has a great rapport with the riders. And I'm not clear what Middlo should have done differently last night PS If he was to be replaced how about Mick Bates as a successor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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