shazzybird Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 If anyone thinks that someone would seriously throw a breeze block or any other misile at a rider then there really are some sad people about. I took the posting not as a threat but just how someone was feeling cheated at the time. Someone else pointed out that this will be old news soon, I don't think it will be something that will be forgotten over night though. He couldn't be that worried after all he was in the bar after the meeting on Saturday laughing and joking. As far as I know nothing was said to him only by the person he was talking to and was advising him not to go into the other bar as there was a few unhappy people in there, he took the advise and stayed put. If anyone wanted to see him there and then they should have gone to the bar and spoke to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jive Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 When I watched it on TV I never noticed him roll off the throttle and was just gutted at GB losing, it was not until TV replays and Tatum stating it that you saw Hans look then clearly shut the throttle. Unfortunately on the repeat show Sky neglected to show the interviews but Keith Huewen and Louis looked pretty p*ssed off. I do feel there is an over reaction to what has happened with some of the postings and judging by comments on TV tonight Hans has done himself no favours by not showing up at Eastbourne, with Millard gleely quoting all the meetings he will ride in made him look as Tv's new no1 villain I hope this whole issue is soon forgotten and we can all move on as Nicholls said 'Its all done with now' but I do feel that it won't be........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 I have been reading quite a lot of what has been said on the forum today - & there has been quite a lot - & refrained from posting too much, but I have to say that all the "Hans Andersen didn't race tonight for fear of his personal safety" rubbish makes me want to yak. Those people thick enough to make personal threats against Andersen aren't bright enough to know better & if they came face to face with him, probably wouldn't have the intelligence or the balls to even say anything to him, never mind do anything. And I certainly don't condone any of them. In any case, do any of them know where he lives? No. Would any of them be able to get anywhere near him? No. They know they wouldn't do anything I know they wouldn't do anything You all know they wouldn't do anything Well you do not know whether or not such threats would be carried out, as you were not on the receiving end, so do not kid yourself that you know how some nutter might react Fact : - At the end of 2002 season, Peter Carr was assaulted in the riders car park at Ashfield by two "uninvited wellwishers" which resulted in him sustaining a collarbone injury, and he is not the first rider to have been attacked. So "Mr Security Know All" , how are you in a position to guarantee that Andersen might not suffer the same fate or worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whacko Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 because luckily hans does not live in scotland! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Lay off Andersen. It's over now so just forget about it, enjoy what's left of the season and look forward to the next. Realise that all riders (including Hans Andersen) risk their life and well being for your entertainment and they should be applauded. If you can't do that then sod off and support another sport because speedway doesn't need you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comebackkings Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 What Hans Anderson did was wrong, but what has happened since is worse. I dont know if he received death threats, but I do respect what Jan Steachmann has to say. Just consider that on this forum a few have agreed with chucking a breeze block at him, add to that the posts on his web site, I dont think I would run the risk of appearing either. The post on here may well have been as a joke, but add it all together and it does seem a bit more serious. OK we lost, but I dont think that Scott Nicholls would have beaten Peter Karlsson anyway. We can all ask "what if", but lets not get too carried away with the spite, leave that to the footy fans and not our "family" sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tactical Sub Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Can anyone translate this article from the Danish equivalent of the Beeb (apart from the quote about the breeze block which is in its original form) ? http://www.dr.dk/sporten/oevrigsport/artic...rticleID=189929 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 (edited) I hope this whole issue is soon forgotten and we can all move on as Nicholls said 'Its all done with now' but I do feel that it won't be........... Top quote there apart from the get out clause It will be forgotten when it stops on here and the like. It's over now so just forget about it, enjoy what's left of the season and look forward to the next. Realise that all riders (including Hans Anderson) risk their life and well being for your entertainment and they should be applauded. If you can't do that then sod off and support another sport because speedway doesn't need you! When will people get it through their heads that the meeting was lost before heat 25? Nicholls had messed up the start and PK would have gone round him anyway because Gollob allowed him the run on the outside. Anderson made the mistake of having a go when he should have had an e/f so that he could have rode at Eastbourne in peace even though the Swedes would still have won the SWC. Edited August 10, 2004 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comebackkings Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 I think we can get the idea of what is being said. It certainly shows how seriously the Breeze block "joke" was taken. Are we going to hide behing the "they dont understand our sense of humour" line? Should the perpitrators apologise to the Danes? Or are they cowards as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r8gdp Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 he should be banned from every track in britain let him earn his living in sweden what he did was damaging to the sport as a whole it spoilt a great week of speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazysue Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 (edited) Basically it says that he feels his life is threatened by the threats made by English fans. It goes on to describe what the situation was for heat 25 and what the fans are blaming him for. He says he has been put at the top of the list for hate mail and the situation has frustrated/angered English fans so much and that the quote is an example of the threats being made that he denies a put up job and that changed to settings were made to his bike but the bike was not working too well and made the performance fluctuate and the threats made to Hans has made him have to miss a league meeting in GB...... At least I think that is the gist of it anyway,not got that far in my Danish to be correct but maybe one of our Danish posters will be able to confirm what it says. Edited August 9, 2004 by crazysue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirmatty Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 my god ive now got a sore head reading all the post on this topic wot hans did was outa order but nout can b changed now, so we need 2 move on the responce regarding the breese block is not worth any more comment (dick head) no proper speedway fan would never say it let alone do it!! need a netural ref in future swc scotty would never have passe PK , WE lost the cup way b4 the last heat and there is always nxt year!!!! congratulations SWEDEN coz some people i think hav 4 got that they won the cup and even they would have rather won it in different circumstances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Addison Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 I have been reading quite a lot of what has been said on the forum today - & there has been quite a lot - & refrained from posting too much, but I have to say that all the "Hans Andersen didn't race tonight for fear of his personal safety" rubbish makes me want to yak. Those people thick enough to make personal threats against Andersen aren't bright enough to know better & if they came face to face with him, probably wouldn't have the intelligence or the balls to even say anything to him, never mind do anything. And I certainly don't condone any of them. In any case, do any of them know where he lives? No. Would any of them be able to get anywhere near him? No. They know they wouldn't do anything I know they wouldn't do anything You all know they wouldn't do anything It wasn't the fact that he stopped Team GB from winning, PK was in front of Scott anyway, that has angered so many people (the genuine speedway fans, I mean), it was his actions showing a total disrespect for everyone & everything involved this last week:- The sport The tournament The occasion The organisers (BSI, BSPA, Poole, Eastbourne) The TV companies The sponsors His fellow riders But most of all? The people who pay him his income - the fans, who paid their hard earned cash - & it wasn't cheap. No-one will lay a finger on Hans Andersen - nor should they - the worst that he will get is a load of verbal aimed at him & frankly he deserves all he gets. No, Hans Andersen doesn't fear for his safety, because he is not in any danger, he simply isn't man enough to stand up & take the criticism he so clearly deserves & the fact that he is racing in Sweden tomorrow night demonstrates that clearly. He has the cheek to call himself a sportsman, but frankly he isn't worthy of the title. Absolutely spot on Dave the mic. I've been off the forum since saturday night and just caught up with these posts.I can't believe anyone would take the breeze block comment seriously.For christ sake take a look outside in the real world and ###### that is happening everyday, Sudan,Iraq,Al Qaeda [ or however you spell the mothers ] Whos really sad ? No one has ever met me on this forum , no one but my family and good friends know my personality or anything about me at all. There's some very self rightious people on here.As for death threats i don't know if this is true but i remeber Roman Matousek receiving similar from Long Eaton plebs over an incident years ago.Notice i say plebs and not fans.Anyone actually stooping this low is no more than a coward, but as for the comment from Mad 3:16 i'm sure thats all it was.A heat of the moment comment they possibly regret posting.Nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailays Hat Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 As for death threats i don't know if this is true but i remeber Roman Matousek receiving similar from Long Eaton plebs over an incident years ago.Notice i say plebs and not fans.Anyone actually stooping this low is no more than a coward, but as for the comment from Mad 3:16 i'm sure thats all it was.A heat of the moment comment they possibly regret posting.Nothing more. I used to work in customer services for a public company, as a result I got threatened in writing and over the phone. Not that often, as naturally I was better at the job than most of my colleagues . I shrugged a particularly abusive threat off with my normal laid back attitude, but as I have a reasonably rare second name a brick went through my parents window. I didn't live there, but the phone book showed that as the only second name listed in the town. The police linked it to my job and he went to jail, he had a long list of similar "crimes against the establishment". So if I was a speedway rider and someone threatened me with a breezeblock I would indeed be concerned. There are some strange people out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addy Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 This may appear unrelated but Just seen "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" - one of their concerns was the bad press they were getting on the internet ... You see what is put on the net is in permanent form - and legally once you've put it on the net - it's permanent - if you get my drift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest richtea78 Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 This may appear unrelated but Just seen "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" - one of their concerns was the bad press they were getting on the internet ... I love that film - lets hope that Hans doesnt come into a lot of money and use it like they do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addy Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 This may appear unrelated but Just seen "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" - one of their concerns was the bad press they were getting on the internet ... I love that film - lets hope that Hans doesnt come into a lot of money and use it like they do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liontamer Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Long Eaton plebs Oi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liontamer Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 I have a reasonably rare second Yes, Mr Hat is indeed quite rare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 I've just been reading the Yahoo groups list and it would appear that the 'breeze block' comment made on this forum has made the Danish press. It is also the main source quoted with regards to the apparent death threats that Hans Andersen has received. I'm not offering an opinion either way on this, but merely stating what seems to be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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