Dekker Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 This is just a typical reaction to an English/British sporting defeat. Why does it always happen? Oh, we lost because of the ref. We lost because someone cheated us out of it. We lost because our shoes were too big. Need a scapregoat. Etc etc Blah blah blah blah blah. No. GB lost over 25 heats, not just one, and I was supporting them all the way. To come up with comments like throwing breeze blocks at him are offensive and plainly ridiculous. Well said Granchan, cant see what the fuss is really over the last heat. Nicholls didnt gate and when added to his stopping that cost englerlund dear. Maybe he better look for the real reason team GB lost closer to home. Some of the purile threads started here subsquently to the final show how this forum has degenerated in the last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate H Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 At the end of the day what is done is done. but i think pulling out of the meeting tonight may have been a good plan. they have said he will ride at Poole on Wed. not a good choice. personally i hope he stays in the elite league and i think everyone should leave him alone. he has done it and there is nothing we can do about now is there. just to make one thing clear as well i am not particularly a big fan of his but he is a good rider and we have already lost too many of them. all the best Kate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 In't Edinburgh part of Great Britain to? Not according to sky who kept slipping in team england all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splatty Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 lol yeah how annoying was that?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 lol yeah how annoying was that?! Not at all, but it showed what they really wanted to do, didnt it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splatty Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 sorry I don't understand Dekker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 whining is coming from about the GB team being robbed. No. It's about Hans not trying, we were not "robbed" as Scott was never likely to beat PK but Hans actions were wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenn Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 (edited) personally i think hans is a ******!!! He spolied the meeting! Had GB lost out to Sweden fair and square i would still have been sad but im blazing that a third party could play such a huge part it must take the shine off it for the swedes......... fair enough i agree scotty probably wouldnt have passed PK......but it would have been nice for him to get a fair go! BTW....Who is Hans considering legal action against?? Scotty?? After his comments live on sky(then quoted on teletext) he may have dropped himself in the s**t! If no money changed hands(and very much doubt any did) then Hans(and maybe the swedes)has a VERY strong case to sue Scott for slander! Edited August 9, 2004 by SullyRox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 If no money changed hands(and very much doubt any did) then Hans(and maybe the swedes)has a VERY strong case to sue Scott for slander! And if he wins the court case will indirectly benefit financially from cheating - can't lose can he! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 sorry I don't understand Dekker Bet Sky would have loved to have it as team england dont you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Oh would I love to be in Poole on Wednesday night, just to soak up the atmosphere if nothing else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 See Jan Staechmann on Yahoo, has summarised a report on Danish media to the effect that Hans withdrew from tonight's meeting as result of death threats made by English fans. If true, those responsible have plumbed far lower depths than any of the alleged misdemeanours of Mr Andersen. Just imagine the damage such actions will have if the media here get there hands on this publicity. For anyone on here who thinks this is funny, I wonder how they would feel if they were subjected to such treatment. It will also give those who wish to object to the very presence of Speedway in their vicinity plenty of ammunition. We, the fans, will end up being stereotyped as psychopaths who should not be tolerated near decent law abiding neighbourhoods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcat Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 "Leave him alone".. " I hope he stays in the Elite league"..what a lot of nonsense as well.. If Andersen had done your team out of the league title in that manner, I bet a pound to a penny, that you'd be on here slating him or any other rider for that type of riding. Whether he was Danish, English or any other nationality.. I cannot condone a cheat in sport. If Nicholls had done the same thing, I would still be on his case..Why?? because he would be robbing the paying fans of a genuine race. Yes by all means leave him alone and let him carry on in the Elite league, that way he gets to do it again.. and I'll bet he does do it again. Next time I hope it has some bearing on a meeting involving YOUR team. I think the Swedes deserved their win.. what angers me the most is, A: British people defending him. B: Speedway fans all over the world will never know for sure if Team GB would have pulled off a race win and at the very least forced a runoff.. its FACT.. Hans Andersen cheated the speedway world, and having seen the slow motion replays on Sky again tonight..its becomes even more clear that he shut off and let PK round him. Yes Scott did get bye Hans..but it was far too late by then. Also if Hans had raced, PK would have been slowed up and Scott Nicholls may have had a chance of getting past PK.. but as I said..we'll never ever know now will we? And finally C:.. He has laughed in the face of us fans that ultimately pay his wages. Also how ironic..Hans has a ligament injury to his hand after crashing early in the World Final.. Misses tonights match, but is then fit to race in Sweden tomorrow and for Ipswich at both Poole Wed's and Ipswich on Thursday.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splatty Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 I hadn't really thought about it - these things usually come down to the way the federation is set up within the sport In any case aren't Sky basically Australian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight_Lady Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 If Nicholls had done the same thing, I would still be on his case..Why?? because he would be robbing the paying fans of a genuine race. Hans Andersen did no such thing. He allowed both Karlsson and Nicholls past to fight it out between themselves. The venom on this forum about him is truly unbelievable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the Mic Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 (edited) I have been reading quite a lot of what has been said on the forum today - & there has been quite a lot - & refrained from posting too much, but I have to say that all the "Hans Andersen didn't race tonight for fear of his personal safety" rubbish makes me want to yak. Those people thick enough to make personal threats against Andersen aren't bright enough to know better & if they came face to face with him, probably wouldn't have the intelligence or the balls to even say anything to him, never mind do anything. And I certainly don't condone any of them. In any case, do any of them know where he lives? No. Would any of them be able to get anywhere near him? No. They know they wouldn't do anything I know they wouldn't do anything You all know they wouldn't do anything It wasn't the fact that he stopped Team GB from winning, PK was in front of Scott anyway, that has angered so many people (the genuine speedway fans, I mean), it was his actions showing a total disrespect for everyone & everything involved this last week:- The sport The tournament The occasion The organisers (BSI, BSPA, Poole, Eastbourne) The TV companies The sponsors His fellow riders But most of all? The people who pay him his income - the fans, who paid their hard earned cash - & it wasn't cheap. No-one will lay a finger on Hans Andersen - nor should they - the worst that he will get is a load of verbal aimed at him & frankly he deserves all he gets. No, Hans Andersen doesn't fear for his safety, because he is not in any danger, he simply isn't man enough to stand up & take the criticism he so clearly deserves & the fact that he is racing in Sweden tomorrow night demonstrates that clearly. He has the cheek to call himself a sportsman, but frankly he isn't worthy of the title. Edited August 9, 2004 by Dave the Mic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirls Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Dave the Mic , what a great post totally agree with you on everything you wrote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the Mic Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 That's right Splatty. The reason, for example, that there is no Scotland team is that all speedway in the UK is governed by the ACU. Ergo, it has to be GB, not England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the Mic Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Thank's la-la. Just a bit of reasoned (I would like to think) consideration after a couple of days reflection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 By leaving the postings where they are everyone can see what kind of mentality the poster had at the time of posting and judge that member accordingly. Which is what I said earlier on. Within reason, as long as the post doesn't contain bad language or is particularly offensive, it is much better to leave the posts on as it gives an insight into the personality of the forum members in question and we can judge them accordingly. A lot of the things that have been said need to be taken "with a pinch of salt" as they have been posted in the heat of the moment. What is a breeze block?..... Its a concrete block with holes in! The holes are presumably to enable the block to be picked up with fingers inserted - a bit like a ten pin bowling ball - ready for the aim. Not much point trying it at Coventry though unless you are a good shot putter and can throw it over a 6ft fence. I'd say Andersen's chances of being hit by a breeze block are 1000 to 1. Now whatever happened to SuperDazTheBee when I need him to place a bet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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