Rotskiracing Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Best ignore me as well then seeing as i agree totally with FR!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Does anyone know the email address of the owner of this web site because I for one wish to remonstrate to them for apparently endorsing certain postings by not removing them. I'd just leave things alone. If the webmaster and about five moderators have not removed the posts you don't like then they have obviously not crossed the forum boundries. I don't agree with a lot of things that have been said, but it does give one an insight into the personalities of some forum members and whose posts to bother reading in future. If you start emailing the webmaster and complaining he might just get so cheesed off with it all that he closes the forum down and we don't want that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiec45 Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 but my initial feelings are he did nothing different to what havey and loram were doing all nite by blipping the throttle to try and reduce the amount of wheel spin Im also sure they didnt take an eggagerated look over their right shoulder whilst trying not to spin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackie Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Yes, I'm glad someone else is prepared to bring some sanity to this forum. I am a Panthers fan and I also like Ryan Sullivan, but I feel that the vitriol on this forum to Andersen and Pedersen in recent months has been disgraceful and I think some people need to take a long look at themselves, especially the owner of this site who seems to refuse to remove some of the more offensive and boundary crossing postings. Does anyone know the email address of the owner of this web site because I for one wish to remonstrate to them for apparently endorsing certain postings by not removing them. I enjoy the posting fights I have with Steve Shovlar on here as much as I am sure he likes to come on here deliberately to wind people up. One thing I will say about Steve to his credit is that I have never seen him trawl to the depths that some people have done this weekend. Get over it Flyin Ryan, there have always been villans in speedway, Andersen & Pedersen are just modern day versions.  A few years down the line they will have been forgotten and new villans will be around.  Andersen himself said he expected some stick about the incident on Saturday & went on to say it wouldn't bother him. At the end of the day, it's only a sport and a little bit of needle just adds to the drama and excitement of it.  Here's hoping Eastbourne v Ippo is on tonight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Danish riders have always fallen into two categories, those that are universally liked i.e Gundersen, Nielsen, Jan O Pedersen and then therte are others who have always shall we say courted contoversy. Â Once well placed English rider i know says that certain current riders display arrogance are merely following a trend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilburforce Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 When two experienced riders in the "cool" of the commentary box say "he done that on purpose" and question whether there was a financial inducement, there must be a case to answer. A decent governing body would investigate whether Hans Andersen took a bribe to throw the decisive final race. So FIM/Olsen probably wont.  I hope Ipswich will quickly consider Andersen's position after what he has done to British speedway and his Ipswich team mate.  Whatever, we the fans have the opportunity to ensure justice is done.  If you don't want to contribute to Andersen's wages, don't pay to see him race.  If only 200 people did that at every Ipswich home and away match, I think he'd quickly be replaced.  I think he deserves to be kicked out of British Speedway until the next World Cup so I wont pay to watch him until them.  Everyone must make their own mind up. But make no mistake, direct action by the fans would force Andersen out of British Speedway and would show Olsen and the FIM the standards of integrity British Speedway fans require.  I think the national Media would readily publicise the campaign - remember the Swiss ref v Portugal.  If followed up by reminders on EL web sites before Ipswich visit, the guy would surely be forced out of Briitiish Speedway?  We have the power. Do we want to leave justice to the FIM or take it ourselves? For goodness sake. If Nicholls was good enough in heat 25 he would have gated and gone on to win the race. He wasn't and he didn't. Team GB should not have let themselves get in to that situation. No point in trying to ruin Andersen's career over it. Don't get me wrong and am no Andersen fan, far from it, but don't you think this is taking things a bit far???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Is there any way i can get to see Ht25? Couldn't afford to go down to Poole and i don't have Sky. Channel 4 don't seem to be showing coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleco Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 What will happened if.....i think there is to much if if for british win! Â Fact is that the Swedes were better and Scotty was to slow to beat the flying PK. Nobody don"t mention the race when Scotty "saw" a red light.....( one very important point was given) Â Which fault was that? Â And the last race? Again Scotty! And you blame Andersen for all! Isn"t fair! Â Congratulations to all teams,i didn"t saw better and "heartstoping" speedway a long time ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjasica Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Well how did the ref help us "big tme" the only favour he did was not exclude scottie when he did not turn on the first turn. What about the race when bjerre should have been kicked out. The race when Lee was blocked when the pole lost his chain was rightly stoped as every other rider that was complaining would have expected the race to be stoped if it was them. What absolute and total rubbish. I have never ever known a race to be stopped because someone loses a chain or because the ref thinks there might be an accident. What do you want next, indicators on bikes. Get real. In regard to Kolodziej's lost chain, the ref had the red light on within a second of him losing control. I have never seen this happen before. How many times has a rider fallen off and no red light been shown until it is clear that the rider is not getting up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 (edited) Nobody don"t mention the race when Scotty "saw" a red light.....( one very important point was given)Which fault was that? And the last race? Again Scotty! And you blame Andersen for all! Isn"t fair! I did on 7th Aug, as follows ....... "Much as it pains me to do so, I have to agree with Steve on the Scott Nicholls incident. I think it was a bad mistake on his part which in the end probably cost England the chance of a race-off. The two riders in 1st and 2nd places were still belting round and if Nicki had fallen behind him, which Scott thought had happened, he would have had at least half a lap to pull up. Surely he must have seen that Lindback and Rempala were still racing?"  You are correct Stanislawski it isn't fair to blame Hans Andersen for Team GB's defeat, but if you read all the posts you'll see there are some sensible ones amongst all the rubbish. Edited August 9, 2004 by Gemini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyinRyan Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Does anyone know the email address of the owner of this web site because I for one wish to remonstrate to them for apparently endorsing certain postings by not removing them. I'd just leave things alone. If the webmaster and about five moderators have not removed the posts you don't like then they have obviously not crossed the forum boundries. I don't agree with a lot of things that have been said, but it does give one an insight into the personalities of some forum members and whose posts to bother reading in future. If you start emailing the webmaster and complaining he might just get so cheesed off with it all that he closes the forum down and we don't want that. I'm not sure that I want to be a part of a 'family forum' that appears to endorse the throwing of a breeze block at a Speedway Rider whilst he is competing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight_Lady Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 I saw the meeting for the first time last night (thank you Merlin) and I cannot believe the crap eminating from down south It was everyone and everything else's fault where the plain simple fact is Sweden won fair and square. Hans Andersen did indeed let Peter Karlsson through in the last race just as he did Scott Nicholls! And that's from someone who isn't a Hans Andersen fan. Â The refereee had a shocker and all this "all four back" was disgraceful. Not to mention immediately stopping and re-running the race when Kolodziej shed a chain and baulked the rider behind who just happened to be English!!! When the hell do we ever see races being stopped for that.....NEVER! Â Face up to it team GB, it was a good performance but on the day Sweden deserved to win and that was in spite of all the decisions that went in favour of GB courtesy of the sixth man in the team.....Master Bates!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 The forum isn't endorsing throwing breeze blocks at anyone just because someone else posts it. Freedom of speech and all that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyinRyan Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 The forum isn't endorsing throwing breeze blocks at anyone just because someone else posts it. Freedom of speech and all that! I am not against freedon of speech, but a boundary has been crossed in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full-throttle Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 I'm not sure that I want to be a part of a 'family forum' that appears to endorse the throwing of a breeze block at a Speedway Rider whilst he is competing. bye bye then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazysue Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 I'm afraid I agree with Flying Ryan. Threatening bodily harm IS crossing the boundary of decent human behaviour, by all means be angry but the threat of physical violence is way off being civilised........so should I go as well FT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiec45 Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Â I'm not sure that I want to be a part of a 'family forum' that appears to endorse the throwing of a breeze block at a Speedway Rider whilst he is competing. bye bye then See which category your in then full throttle How can anyone take your posts seriously again Not that we ever did anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight_Lady Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Comming off the 2nd bend, Hans looks over his shoulder, sees PK and shuts off. In the interview with Sophie he says (with huge smile) "I didn't see Peter" and they then show the replay with Hans looking back and shutting off. He also let Nicholls past too. What the hell is all the fuss about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter S. Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 What is a breeze block ? Â Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Steve Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 I have to agree that it was lost over 25 heats and we had our share of good fortune as well. I can understand the frustration as we lost. Hans never lost us the Championship maybe hindered Scotty.( who gave it his best) I dont think Hans deserves the abuse written on his website guestbook. I think its a sad day for british speedway when things like that are written. Hans gives us a lot of entertainment on and off the track. Yes he can ride "over the top" and maybe he did help PK it will be debated for years. Then that has happened throughout the history of speedway. Thats what makes meetings good, hero and villan situations. On a personal level I have always found Hans helpful and he has a good relationship with George which has contiued since his days at Poole. As I say it does not warrent the level of abuse on his website some of that is just shameful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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