smillie Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 Well I have never laughed so much then I have reading not just this thread but peoples signitures!! Well done! As for tonights meeting superd, in fact I think the whole world cup has been a fantastic spectical to Speedway, its just a shame that it has had to finnish with that type of goings on! Yes I think hans is a very nice bloke( I was sat in front of him in Cardiff and had a good chat with him!) but for him to do what he did was out of order! How can Hans say he didn't see him when he looked round for him and then looked right at him!! I think a visit to Spec-Savers is in order for Hans!!! Im not going to let Hans ruine my thoughts of a good tournement and at the end of the day Sweden won(congrats to them!) and we came 2nd(well done to all the boys) and all riders came away safe ready to ride another meeting! Monday night will be interesting to see what reaction the Eastbourne fans will give him! I would also like to say well done to sky ifor putting on a fantastic production this week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the Mic Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 mate Italics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jill Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 well im very proud of the lads. the only team i really really wanted them to beat was the aussies and we did that. we were nearly there and next year it will be ours. whateva happened its speedway things are sent to try us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscbyd2 Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 It was a thoroughly good contested meeting. The swedes in just pipping England were worthy winners. And England put up a good fight, but on this occasion were unlucky. Why spoil an excellent meeting by blaming other people for our loss. It was in Englands grip. Unfortunatly it was a step to far for us this year. Regards Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 This type of thing has happened in the past ie coventry where adams and crump made no attempt to race in order to deny england, its not done their reputation any harm has it, there is a rule is there not that a rider can be excluded for failing to race, also penhall didnt cover himself in glory at white city but at least he was helping a fellow countryman, still dosnt make it right though, now we have anderson letting karlsson through muddying the waters, as for the danes and swedes not getting along remember euro 2004 where the italians accused them of a carve up? like a professional foul in football its cheating at the end of the day, anderson just showed what he lacks in my book and thats class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcat Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 (edited) What I can prove..is that Hans Andersen cheated. Go on then, prove it. Doh..typical.. Didnt you watch Sky then?.. If you did you will have seen the incident quite clearly.. If you didnt. Why are you butting on here? The proof was there in front of your eyes.. in fact in front of millions of pairs of eyes and you come on here and say..go on then.. just about sums you up. Edited August 8, 2004 by tomcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jill Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 England where were they riding at then. its team GB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevs Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 If the intention had been to wind up the British, then he has succeeded beyond his wildest dreams judging by the amount of vitriol on this and other forums! The incident has tainted the efforts of the Swedish riders and ensured that, in some parts of the world anyway, what was otherwise a superb meeting will be remembered, not as it should be for the riding skills and courage of 24 men, but for the actions of one man. I believe that if such thing had been seen to happen in football a charge of "bringing the game into disrepute" would be laid at the feet of the culprit. Absolutely. One man spoiled everyones enjoyment no matter which country -cheers Hans you done well mate -Hope you can live with it-You know it -we know it-not making a bonified effort to race and then lying.You wanna grow up mate you really do-you are a RACER try remembering that. You personally spoilt it for thousands all over the world-and I never had a problem with you before tonight.-You are pathetic mate to be honest. Im going to bed as going to Carmarthen tomorrow to see the under 15s and I sure as hell know they will be more professional than you mate--and a breath of fresh air Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyinRyan Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Just spent the last hour reading this thread, phew! I think some people are going well OTT here, GB never lost the meeting in heat 25, they lost it over 25 heats and did exceptionally well to finish where they did. As for heat 25, can you say categorically that Andersen eased off? Only one person knows, I'm afraid and talk of bribes is outrageous and people are only saying it because of Scotty's comments when interviewed. IMO Scott would not have got anywhere near PK anyway. Andersen went from first to last, he could have had bike problems, didn't Gollob go from first to last tonight and I know Boycie did the other night, were they 'cheating' as well. Lets take defeat graciously for a change and not turn into football supporters. The ref did us so many favours tonight, it was almost bloody embarrassing. Sweden were very worthy winners and no one can deny that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscbyd2 Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 If it is team G.B where were the welsh, scottish or Irish riders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 This type of thing has happened in the past ie coventry where adams and crump made no attempt to race in order to deny england, its not done their reputation any harm has it? No? Why do you think loads of us on here were chuffed to bits when Australia didn't qualify for the final. We remember....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the Mic Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 I think Old Saint has it spot on. Nicholls may or may not have caught PK, the fact is we'll never know. What is certain, though is that the Swedish victory was tainted by some "assistance" from Andersen. As Old Saint says, I suspect some of them may feel a little embarassed by what happened. In fairness, they shouldn't. Also, the most valid point I have seen since the last heat was that made by Nevs, in that after 100 heats of top class speedway, with a final that goes to the last heat, some donkey tinges the meeting, tournament & sport as a whole by his actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevs Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 The guy shut off--its there on camera.Anyone would take defeat sure but he shut off simple as that-and then lied. The shutting off is one thing-the lying is another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shnikies Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Gold or Silver.. or no medal at all.. I am a BRIT and am mighty proud of the six lads that served BRITISH speedway so well this last week. Well done to Scott, Floppy, Havvy, Loramski, Ricco and the Screen Machine.. You better make it 7 TomCat and add Mr Bates on the list... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jill Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 If it is team G.B where were the welsh, scottish or Irish riders? doesnt matter where they were, team GB is what the teams called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyinRyan Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 What I can prove..is that Hans Andersen cheated. Go on then, prove it. Doh..typical.. Didnt you watch Sky then?.. If you did you will have seen the incident quite clearly.. If you didnt. Why are you butting on here? The proof was there in front of your eyes.. in fact in front of millions of pairs of eyes and you come on here and say..go on then.. just about sums you up. I think you will find Sir Kelvin says he is easing off, but there is no way you can categroically say that you can see him doing it, he goes from first to last. PK is on the outside and has all the drive. One thing you can say though, is that Scott missed the gate and should have wrapped it up off the inside. Only one person knows if he eased off and that is Andersen. Get a grip and take defeat graciously. Well done GB a great effort, and well done Sweden, the best team won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyinRyan Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 The guy shut off--its there on camera.Anyone would take defeat sure but he shut off simple as that-and then lied. The shutting off is one thing-the lying is another. It's not clear imo. You are led to believe this because Tatum says it is happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevs Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 The guy shut off--its there on camera.Anyone would take defeat sure but he shut off simple as that-and then lied. The shutting off is one thing-the lying is another. It's not clear imo. You are led to believe this because Tatum says it is happening. I most certainly am not mate! Basic motor cycle throttle action-you basically twist the throttle up towards you anti clockwise to accelerate and twist it downwards and away from you to cut the throttle which is what Hans did. Kelvin did that at Exeter and said if them guys want to kill themselves then fine let them-I aint riding near the fence *allegedly* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splatty Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 no flying ryan watch the replay it is clear to see - I will be watching his other races on the tape with interest - especially as his favourite trick is to steam into 3 wildly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 phew thats a lot of reading! Over the course of the meeting i personally think that the incidents evened themselves out. Also PK looked to have the beating over Scottie but hey we will never know will we....... However what we possibly witnessed is Hans wanting to let his team-mate past to win the world cup, But whats wrong with that? Everything unfortunately if you are BRITISH, as he let his SWEDISH team mate through by shutting off the throttle 3 times after he had confirmed who was outside him by LOOKING over his right shoulder! It could be said that the Swedes tapped him up before the race for their gain, so were the Brits too slow? i blame Sky myself....... i bet THEY paid Hans off so that their viewing figures hit an all time high! Cya Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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