gms Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 who would be in the team for each countrys wtc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 It's not until next year is it? Plus who's in it? France, Latvia, Russia, Solvernia, Mongolia and Saudi Arabia?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 Don`t think solvernia is a country is it knowing speedway they will definitely be in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garf Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 Don`t think solvernia is a country is it knowing speedway they will definitely be in Maybe it is one of these tiny tiny new countries in the third world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 Yes,just like France as well i guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garf Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 Yes,just like France as well i guess Excuse my language, but IMO France is a country of "snobs". Not very pleasant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 Anyway back to the subject! I think its safe to say the Danes would be very strong with a number 1 like Bjerre so would Sweden with Lindback, two riders who are likely be in the 'Senior' side! In my opinion with some of the teams below this would be a very good tournament! Obviously however some of these riders may be older than 21 next year but if this tournament was run this year then it would have been very exciting! Denmark 1.Kenneth Bjerre 2.Morten Risager 3.Mads Korneliussen 4.Henrik Moller 5.Kristian Lund/Ulrich Ostergaad (Under 21?) Sweden 1.Antonio Lindback 2.Fredrik Lindgren 3.Joonas Davidsson 4.Daniel Davidsson 5.Eric Andersen Australia 1.Rory Schlien 2.Trevor Harding 3.Matthew Wethers 4.?? 5.?? Team GB 1.Edward Kennet 2.Daniel King 3.Ritchie Hawkins 4.Jamie Smith 5.Steve Boxhall? Poland 1.Krzysztof Kasprzak 2.Janusz Kolodziej 3.Robert Miskowiak 4.Miroslaw Jablonski 5.Adrian Miedzinski Germany 1.Martin Smolinski 2.Mathias Schultz 3.Christian Hefenbrock 4.Tobias Kroner 5.Rene Schafer Czech Republic 1.Jan Jaros 2.Tomas Suchanek 3.Patrik Linhart 4.Miroslav Fencl 5.Zdenek Simota USA 1.Ryan Fisher 2.Byan Yarrow 3.Eric Carillo 4.?? 5.?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 Excuse my language, but IMO France is a country of "snobs". Not very pleasant. I think an s slipped in there Garf Just like I slipped in an r. JT, Team GB are not sending team, I don't think any of the main countries are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffster Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 JT, One notable admission in the Czech Team - Lubos Tomicek....Surely worth a place ahead of Linhart & Simota ? Dont forget, the riders you mentioned are "only" racing on the continent, while Lubos is riding regularly in the PL here with Newcastle... Plus, we dont yet fully know the rules of this competition....For example, if teams are allowed to use an over age rider in their squads, the same as in international football at Under 21 level, then one of the Drymls is sure to be in the Czech Squad, as the final next year is at Pardubice in Czecho, which is their home track... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 I was just suggesting possible teams based on the riders who have been qualifying or finishing highest in the World U21 rounds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Andrew- Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 What about James Wright? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 What about James Wright? Team GB are not entering this joke of a competition as they don't wnat to have riders riding eslewhere and being unavailable for league meetings. So he'll be at Workington while this competition taks place. Hopefully the BSPA will block the use of guests and R/R for riders riding in this competition. Let the lesser countries compete, France, Germany, Slovenia etc but GB, Sweden and Denmark have nothing to prove and I image Australia will struggle to get a decent team together anyway. Woodward, Wethers, Parsons, Schlein and Ezergailis is hardly scary! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 Typical English way of thinking.Didn`t want to get involved with the Football World Cup or European Cup when they were first conceived List is probably endless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffster Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 Is there an official list of competing nations already available then ? I certainly havent heard that Team GB wont be competing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 I certainly havent heard that Team GB wont be competing.... Graham Reeve said so on yahoo last year. No, Team GB have nothing to do with European Champinships either (that how france, Italy, Solvenia and Germany get to finals). Who the hell would support a junior World under 21 team championship? :s The WTC(or SWC) is a worth while competition. BTW, in football, who was last World junior Champions? I bet nobody knows without having to look ont he net, nobody cares! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffster Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 Well, if we are not entering, I have to agree with Iris, in that its a short sighted decision... Entering a team would give invaluable international experience to the likes of Jamie Smith, Edward Kennett & Richie Hawkins.... Hopefully, the decision not to enter a team will be reversed, but I wont hold my breath..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenn Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 Is it any wonder that our young guys are nowhere near the standard of riders from other countries!!!! Look at top young riders from Sweden, Denmark, Poland and Aus we have no one who even comes close!! Taking part in a competition like this would build on confidence and experience and go part of the way to trying to pull our guys up to the same standard as other countries! Not wishing to offend anyone, but now that Harris, Stead and Howe (and maybe a few more) are over 21 we dont really have ANY riders at under 21 level who can compete with the likes of Lindback, Bjerre etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garf Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 Is it any wonder that our young guys are nowhere near the standard of riders from other countries!!!! Look at top young riders from Sweden, Denmark, Poland and Aus we have no one who even comes close!! Taking part in a competition like this would build on confidence and experience and go part of the way to trying to pull our guys up to the same standard as other countries! Not wishing to offend anyone, but now that Harris, Stead and Howe (and maybe a few more) are over 21 we dont really have ANY riders at under 21 level who can compete with the likes of Lindback, Bjerre etc Hear hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 USA 1.Ryan Fisher 2.Byan Yarrow 3.Eric Carillo 4.?? 5.?? 4. Shaun Harmatiuk (4th at U.S. Under 21 and raced in N.Z. last winter) 5. Justin Boyle or Chris Kerr (tied for 5th at U.S. Under 21) 2005 U.S. TEAM 1. Bryan Yarrow 2. Eric Carrillo 3. Justin Boyle 4. Chris Kerr 5. Cam Rafferty, Greg Hooten Jr., or T.J. Fowler The U.S. held its first Under 21 Championship last season, there isn't one in definite plans for this season, but it is being discussed. It could be used to determine the U.S. team for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 To not enter a British team in this event is probably the most short sighted decision the SCB and BSPA have made.If they got thmselves into gear at the end of the season instead of the end of February,we could work fixtures around most meetings in Europe.Take a leaf out of the Swedish and Polish leagues sort your points limit (Not gradings)and teams out in november.The fixture list could then be worked around these type of meetings and maybe even Longtrack and Grasstrack championships. Then the big challenge is to get all promotors to agree that if meetings do have to be rearranged due to bad weather,and it happens to clash with one of these events then r/r can be used. (1) Get the fixtures out early and get the riders to commit to them. (2) Get the promotors to work as a team(i know it's probably impossible) (3) Get the management commitee to discuss any r/r or guest issues between themselves and then notify the referee and both promotors of there decision and that that decision is final.Instead of them spending an hour of the meeting arguing over who agreed what and with whom,mostly over a few hundredths of a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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