GeneralMelchett Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 I really struggle to understand some of you lot on this forum, you all puport to be British or English (and in SCB's case Welsh fans) and yet over 2 hours after the GP and NO-ONE has seen fit to deem Scott Nicholls efforts tonight worthy of a mention. In case you weren't watching he was 40 yards from a final slot No wonder your all to busy drooling over a couple of Danish wildcards or explaining your position the latest in the Pedersen V whoever clash and some dweeb seems to think that just because Iversen and Bjerre can pull one out of the hat in their home country's GP they should be given a place in WHOLE of the 2005 series! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grim Reaper Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 (edited) I was just about to start a new thread saying exactly the same thing. Poor old Scotty was really in the wars tonight, but he did us proud in the end & he's one of the riders who is always happy to give an interview. Glad the leg didn't suffer further damage, it was a bit worrying for a while. Chin up Scotty, your time will come. Chin up Loramski (no, I'm not taking the p*ss), you were unlucky. Lee, you were about as useful as an ar*e pocket on a shirt. Edited June 26, 2004 by The Grim Reaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 Do I detect a certain element of jelousy of Scandanavian talent here? I agree Scotty Nicholls was imense today and saved the Brits from further embarassment as all the other were hopeless. And don't call me a dweeb you toss pot, the Danish wild cards you talk about haven't only 'pulled one out of the hat' in their home countries but have also done it on the international stage throughout 2004 (both in WC final). Sad really isn't it that none of the British wildcards (although I liked Floppy) could 'pull one out of the hat' in front of their home fans? I appreciate good speedway and I felt that Iversen and Bjerre showed how bright the future of the GP series could be and the inclusion of these two riders would in my opinion increase the excitement of the meetings far more than watching certain riders plod around for 1 or 2 GP points in most meetings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 Scott who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted June 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 (edited) Do I detect a certain element of jelousy of Scandanavian talent here? I agree Scotty Nicholls was imense today and saved the Brits from further embarassment as all the other were hopeless. And don't call me a dweeb you toss pot, the Danish wild cards you talk about haven't only 'pulled one out of the hat' in their home countries but have also done it on the international stage throughout 2004 (both in WC final). Sad really isn't it that none of the British wildcards (although I liked Floppy) could 'pull one out of the hat' in front of their home fans? I appreciate good speedway and I felt that Iversen and Bjerre showed how bright the future of the GP series could be and the inclusion of these two riders would in my opinion increase the excitement of the meetings far more than watching certain riders plod around for 1 or 2 GP points in most meetings! There is no jealousy! just frustration that on a forum based in England not one English fan deems his efforts worthy of mention. Bjerre and Iversen were VERY good tonight but i still fail to see, when they are going to REDUCE the number of riders in the GP, why they should be given a place in the 2005 series. If they earn it on merit i.e via qualification fair do's, as Iversen might well do, and if he does good luck to him. But i'm never in favour of saying oh yeah give X a go cos he did well in a one off GP, does that amplify enough for you. Whats the point of being jealous about Scandanavian speedway as a follower since the 80's we are well used to being in your shadow sadly not helped ambivulence of British fans. Oh and i still think your a dweeb ah so you are awake then dekker Edited June 26, 2004 by General Melchitt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 (edited) First of all lets get this straight, I am not Danish but am still a big fan of Scandanavian riders and British ones of course! Second of all I agree that Scott was great tonight, I don't think people overlooked him more like forgot about him after the events of the final! On the topic of the 16 for the GP, NKI and KB may qualify from the forthcoming WC final anyway, but as young and exciting riders try and name riders who deserve the place? In my opinion certain riders who just a couple of years ago were some of the Worlds best, Loram and Max are quickly becoming past it despite both being brilliant in league speedway! Some of the riders in the GP are poor, for being the first pair of wildcards to reach a semi final I find it hard to see why both these riders shouldn't at least be on the shortlist for a place! Edited June 26, 2004 by JT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presenter Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 (edited) What was noticable was the complete lack of National Managerial support for not just Scott, but all the British riders. Whilst Jacob Olsen is a very prominent presence in the pits geeing up and encouraging all the Danish riders, where is our National Team Manager supporting our riders. Scott eluded to it when being interviewed on Sky, and thanked Mark for his support after his own early exit, but surely there should be a managerial presence supporting the riders and not just allowing them to self-support each other. I'm afraid that our National management could take a leaf out of the book of some of the other nations. Edited June 26, 2004 by Presenter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 Well done Scotty. I think you did everything not to qualify but you still nearly made it. Fair dues to the Englishman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 Excellent point 'Presenter', I think Jacob Olsen takes even more hassle of the riders shoulders in the GP's and allows the Danes to just get on with riding, maybe us Brits should employ a GP 'representative' for the riders? I don't think its fair to suggest to Middlo who is Poole and GB manager to do this extra work, in my opinion we need a devoted and knowledgeble former rider to undertake this task! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 What was noticable was the complete lack of National Managerial support for not just Scott, but all the British riders. Just what we were thinking whilst watching the G.P. Jacob and Ole Olsen were all over the Danish riders with encouragement and support, but where was the England manager or a representative? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 I don't think its fair to suggest to Middlo who is GB manager to do this extra work Being GB manager is exactly why he should be doing that "extra" work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 Yes but he is GB World Cup manager AND Poole EL manager, doesn Jacob Olse manage any other teams other than the Danish World Cup and GP squad? I think the GB riders need a big personality with international experience in the pits to get jeed up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 Yes but he is GB World Cup manager No, he is GB Team Manager - and as such should represent our riders whenever they race for their country. The GP series falls into that category! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 JT, Neil Street manages to manage ( ) Newport and Australia and be in the pits at all the GP's "pumping up" the Aussies. So why can't Middlo do it? Surely if Neil can get from the GP's to the Uk, it's not that hard for Middlo to do it, is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 Nice to see a smiley before the managing Newport bit! Good point SCB, would be interesting what Middlo thinks about this, haven't I seen him with the riders at a GP before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 Oh yeah, I had money on Scott to win, so I was suporting him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 Nice to see a smiley before the managing Newport bit! Good point SCB, would be interesting what Middlo thinks about this, haven't I seen him with the riders at a GP before? I'd be happy to bet the BSPA won't finance it - anyone with any inside info on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzieQ Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 What was noticable was the complete lack of National Managerial support for not just Scott, but all the British riders. Just what we were thinking whilst watching the G.P. Jacob and Ole Olsen were all over the Danish riders with encouragement and support, but where was the England manager or a representative? This is something to take up with the BSPA/SCB as they do not / will not pay for Middlo to attend the GP´s !!!! This is something that is totally wrong, Neil should be with the British Boys and he would be given half the chance but why should this be at his expense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzieQ Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 Nice to see a smiley before the managing Newport bit! Good point SCB, would be interesting what Middlo thinks about this, haven't I seen him with the riders at a GP before? Yes Mid was in Stockholm and Cardiff, both of which he paid for I believe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 Thanks for the reply Tabs and it's just what I thought - BSPA at fault again! How much would it cost them to fly out a rep (be it Middlo or someone else) - my guess is about £300 top whack! What a small price to pay for success in the World arena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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