Nicki Pedersen Spits Out His Dummy Again

[Gemini]

Seriously though, Tony should be having sleepless nights about that ridiculous perm!!!

Oy! I'll have you know they are 100% real curls without the aid of any

perm. ..

[Blackknight19]

From someone who is not Nicki Pederen fan I thought it was a disgrace to disqualify him from heat 19 last night, he was out in front moving across to the racing line when Crumpie clipped his dirt deflector and went down faster than a speeding bullet, Scott Nicholls proved when he was clipped much harder by Greg Hancock that you do not have to cheat to win by diving to the floor like a spoilt italian footballer.

 

In my opinion Crumpie could have stayed on his bike but knew it was Pedersen in front and went down too easily.

[Dave the Mic]

The histrionics of the riders (right or wrong) are not relevant. Let's look at the facts, shall we?

 

Nicki Pedersen's dirt deflector caught Jason Crump's back wheel, causing Crump to fall. Result? Pedersen rightly excluded. You can argue all you like about Crump being able/not able to stay on & there is no comparison to the Hancock/Nicholls clash for 2 reasons.

 

1) Greg caught the second bend rut & that forced him into Scott. But, Scott had his wheels in line & was upright. It was (in relative terms) easier for him to stay on.

 

2) Nicki appeared to see Jason coming & moved over - that's OK, nothing wrong with that, he is entitled to change line - but he caught Jason's front wheel & that most certainly isn't OK. Crump & Pedersen were still on the bend & that would have made it much more difficult for Crump to stay aboard.

 

I'm not a Crump or Pedersen fan - I couldn't care less if neither of them wins - so don't put me in the Pedersen hating corner, as that isn't the case. The fact is the rule book shows no grey area for this kind of incident. If a rider causes another to fall, he is excluded.

 

Where the rule book could perhaps do with some looking at is where a rider is impeded/struck by another's misfortune/mistake as was the case with Hancock/Nicholls. Greg got out of jail & it cost Scott a probable place in the final.

[salty]

Pedersen/Crump incident tough to call. Minimal contact but a dangerous move imo.

Nicki seems to think he "can do what he likes" when in front. I do not think this includes pulling some of the moves that he has done this year.

Be interested to know what he was saying to Crumpy across the pits as Crumpy got ready for the re-run.

On the other hand I think he deserves a lot of credit for trying to clear the track in the final. As Crumpy was leading at the time it would have suited Nicki to have a re-run, so fair play to him for that.

[The Grim Reaper]

Nicki Pedersen's dirt deflector caught Jason Crump's back wheel, causing Crump to fall.

Good job you were watching very carefully what happened. We wouldn't want you to get your facts wrong now would we? As i said on another pointless Pedersen bashing thread somewhere, people only report the facts as they would like them to have been, not how they were. I suggest you all rewind your taoes & watch the Grump/Pedersen incident again, in slow motion if needs be, then you can come back & make factual posts instead of stupid mis-informed ones.

Edited June 27, 2004 by The Grim Reaper

[Chezza]

Straight and to the point, I don't like Pedersen or Crumpy but Pedersen shouldn't have been excluded in Heat 19. Ok he did go wide, but imo Crumpy saw an opportunity to take advantage of that and thought he could cut back in and shoot straight up the inside. Pedersen wasn't quite as far ahead as Crumpy thought, and by coming in he touched the dirt deflector. Not a major impact but as usual Crumpy knows best and by laying it down he knew he could get Pedersen excluded. Hence the fake limping afterwards!

 

Hancock & Nicholls however just goes to show how to control a race. As Nicholls said, he could quite easily have fallen off in order to exclude Hancock, but he was there to race and that's what he did. So unfortunate that he did fall eventually so close to the finish. Nicholls will get there, it's just a matter of time.

[Guest JY2003]

From where we was sitting, Nicki didnt even touch Grumpy

[-DelBoyRodders-]

From where we was sitting, Nicki didnt even touch Grumpy

Well you would say that wouldn't you.

 

Watching over and over again last night on TV the contact was minimal - BUT there was contact.

 

Having never ridden a bike at 60mph going sideways, I can't honestly say if that is enough to knock a rider off. But I very much doubt if Crump would deliberatly put his bike down when he was already in second place, as has been suggested on here and other Internet forums.

[smillie]

I for one carn't stand Nikki but I must say I have looked at the incident over and over and yes Nikki did move across to Crumpie's racing line and YES his dirt diflector did make contact but I do think that excluding him was a little harsh!

 

BUT I did think the way Nikki reacted was out of order! Why doesn't he act his age and not his shoe size! Yes it was entertaining and I had a laugh when I saw it but when your trying to sell the sport as a Family sport, you don't want to see that type of thing.

 

Yes I know that we can all do things in the heat of the moment but I think that Nikki needs to sort his temper out before he hurts someone, if not himself not on the track, but off it!

[Whacko]

How is a Dirt deflector going to knock a 13 stone motorbike over?

 

common sense people.

[GM]

I want to know why a rider would get off his bike at that speed on purpose someone on here said it was like a footballer falling but they are not doing over 60mph on a bike with no brakes.

 

Pedersen knew he was in the wrong after seeing all the replays on his tv why else did you think he tried to get his bike off the track to try and get some pride back after one of the biggest tanturums ive ever seen.

[The Grim Reaper]

Pedersen knew he was in the wrong after seeing all the replays on his tv why else did you think he tried to get his bike off the track to try and get some pride back after one of the biggest tanturums ive ever seen.

From any other part of the country your posting would be considered complete cobblers, but as your from Workington I'll view it as a work of art.

Edited June 27, 2004 by The Grim Reaper

[Whacko]

most riders have huge tantrums its because of the addrenalline, its not as if he actually caused any damage or anything its a good way of letting off steam!

pedersen has everyone and everything against him because of others jealousy - i think next year he will have learnt from this dificult year, maybes he should go back to brough park for some training from dickie juul, rediscover the beautiful city of newcastle upon tyne and yes he will be world champion again - oh yes.

[Philip Addison]

Scott Nicholls and Tony Rickardsen hit the rut, Nicki move out to avoid hit, a like most footballers of today afetr a little tap, crump dives and rolls over and over, to get the other Player (rider) the yellow card ( exclusion ) great tv though

Oh right.Well it's funny Nicki didn't mention this in his explanation to the ref.I was just peeing miself watching his antics.Did you see that poor cameraman he went for when he came off the track ? The whole charade was the funniest thing i've seen in years.Classic Gold !!! I lost count of the 'effs' [ as the tv pictures cut away back to the track you could just hear Nicki say " Turn that off it's not a f*****g tv show " ] Well they'd better not see this in Hollywood cos he'd certainly be up for an oscar.Really funny when he went towards the cameraman then pushed his own pit crew guy and went to the phone,notice how the tv camera is right behind Nicki but whenever he turns around it backs away every time.Wonder where Ole was while all this was going on ?? But seriously this shows why cameras SHOULD be there in the pits to bring us what goes on.People said last year after they intruded a bit on Jason Crump they shouldn't be there.Well i disagree.If theres controversy i want to know whats happening.

 

 

On the other side of the coin,good to see Nicki pull his bike off the track in the Final.A lot of other riders wouldn't have even bothered.I wonder how much influenced Nicki was by Jason saying to him it wasn't his fault [ the heat 19 crash ] but the refs instead.I think Jason Crump is dead crafty when it comes to stuff like this,i always think back to the Loram - Rickardsson incident that cost Rickardsson the title that year,and one or two other contentious incidents.Can't knock Nicki for it though,he did pull his bike out of the way.

[Alcoholic Mathematician]

I want to know why a rider would get off his bike at that speed on purpose someone on here said it was like a footballer falling but they are not doing over 60mph on a bike with no brakes.

This incident happened at the slowest part of the track. The riders are not doing over 60 mph on that part of the track.

[gooner_girl4eva]

Well I have just got back from Denmark this morning and watched it on Sky. I certainly dont think Nicki did anything delibrately, as the leader he is free to take which ever racing line he chooses. As I've said before, if Nicki wants to take somebody out, he'll do it in style, not like what happened with Crump. It was just unfortunate that he happened to catch the edge of Crumpy's bike and as Kelvin said, he thought Crumpy chose the easier option of falling off. A harder rider would have stayed on, like when they interviewed Scotty, he had a chance of getting Hancock excluded but stayed on and it cost him but fair play to him anyway.

 

And I am glad to see that some people appreciate that Nicki showed excellent sportsmanship in the final by trying to move his bike out of the way especially when none other than Crumpy was winning. If he was that nasty he never would have done that, there aren't many riders who show that much genuine sportsmanship.

 

Also will comment on that i thought Hancock rode some very hard agressive lines, bordering on dirty. Makes me laugh that he slags Nicki off but he is close to taking some one off soon

[Grachan]

The thing is, you can never really guess what the referee is going to do in these situations, so why would Crumpie lay down his bike and risk exclusion when in a qualifying position?

 

If a footballer takes a dive and doesn't get his foul, then he just carries on regardless. In speedway, if it doesn't work then you're out of the race. Thinking about it, I'm sure he didn't put it down deliberately.

[fireblade]

Yet again Pedersen makes a dity move. Block a rider by all means, but don't move across into him.

 

One day some rider is going to take him out big time. Pedersen is dirty no question about it. Time and time again he does the same. Even the other Danes don't like him.

[Joanne]

Brilliant acting by Nicki, really funny. Woke me up after doing a night shift. If I were a mechanic I would wear one of his spare helmets. Its a wonder he didn't hurt anyone. See how he changed in the Semi final, nice a pie then.

[Guest ruberoid375]

Brilliant acting by Nicki, really funny. Woke me up after doing a night shift. If I were a mechanic I would wear one of his spare helmets. Its a wonder he didn't hurt anyone. See how he changed in the Semi final, nice a pie then.

one thing's for sure - his contribution will put speedway in the sporting bloomers programmes. Must top the wobblers by miles.