tomazpozrl Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Practice 3.00 p.m. Race 9.00 p.m. France 1 not yet confirmed 2 not yet confrimed 15 not yet confirmed Slovenia 3 Izak Santej 4 Jernej Kolenko 16 Denis Stojs Italy I 5 Andrea Maida 6 Daniele Tessari 17 Simone Terenzani Poland 7 Rafal Szombierski 8 Krzysztof Kasprzak 18 Marcin Rempala Italy II 9 Massimo Zambon 10 Guglielmo Franchetti 19 Mattia Carpanese Germany 11 Martin Smolinski 12 Thomas Stange 20 Christian Hefenbrock Austria 13 Fritz Wallner 14 Manuel Hauzinger 21 not yet confimed There's a strong possibility that LIVE UPDATES from this meeting will be available on SLOVENIAN SPEEDWAY FORUM : http://slospeedway.phpbbhost.biz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomazpozrl Posted June 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 I can now confirm that there WILL be live updates covering this event on Slovenian speedway forum. Here is direct link to the thread for the live updates : http://phpbbhost.biz/slospeedway/index.php...&st=0entry589 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffster Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 Tomas, I have not heard about this competition before...Can you give us some more details please - When & Where is the other Semi, Final, etc.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomazpozrl Posted June 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 Hi Jeffster. It's new competition, UEM is staging it for the first time this year. There are two semifinals : first one is today in Terenzano (Italy) and the other one is tomorrow in Lvov (Ukraine) with Russia, Croatia, Netherlands, Czech Republic, Latvia and Ukraine. The final will be staged in Debrecen (Hungary) on September 12th. They are using 7 team format. Each team consists of two riders plus reserve. Best 3 teams from each semifinal will progress to the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lydia Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 no updates for the moment in the slovenian speedway forum do you know where I could find more updates, please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champion Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 (edited) I have a question. Yesterday there was: Poland 7 Rafal Szombierski 8 Krzysztof Kasprzak 18 Marcin Rempala and now it's: Poland 7 Rafal Szombierski 8 Krzysztof Kasprzak 18 / Didn't Marcin Rempala arrive to Terenzano ? Edited June 19, 2004 by Champion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 This is a joke right? What a competition, whats the point of it? Give the nothing countries a chance? Next year we'll have Phil Morris and Tom Brown representing Wales in this farce! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomazpozrl Posted June 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 I have a question. Yesterday there was: Poland 7 Rafal Szombierski 8 Krzysztof Kasprzak 18 Marcin Rempala and now it's: Poland 7 Rafal Szombierski 8 Krzysztof Kasprzak 18 / Didn't Marcin Rempala arrive to Terenzano ? Champion - Marcin didn't arrive to Terenzano. I'm not sure why because I couldn't understand what the Italian announcer was saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomazpozrl Posted June 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 (edited) Here are complete results : RESULTS : France = 11 1. Stephane Tressarieu 1,1,1,2 = 5 2. Matthieu Tressarieu ef,1 = 1 15. Sebastien Tressarieu 2,3 = 5 Slovenia = 12 3. Izak Šantej 0,0,3,3 = 6 4. Jernej Kolenko 3,1,0,2 = 6 16. Denis Štojs Italy I = 10 5. Andrea Maida 1,2,ef,0 = 3 6. Daniele Tessari 0 = 0 17. Simone Terenzani 3,2,2 = 7 Poland = 16 7. Rafal Szombierski 2,3,1,2 = 8 8. Krzysztof Kasprzak 3,2,2,1 = 8 18. / Italy II = 7 9. Massimo Zambon 0,3,1 = 4 10. Guglielmo Franchetti 1,1,0 = 2 19. Mattia Carpanese 1,0 = 1 Germany = 17 11. Martin Smolinski 2,2,3,3 = 10 12. Thomas Stange 3,3,0,1 = 7 20. Christian Hefenbrock Austria = 11 13. Fritz Wallner 3,1,2,3 = 9 14. Manuel Hauzinger 2,0,0,0 = 2 21. Mario Ozelt HEAT-BY-HEAT RESULTS: Heat 1 : Kolenko, Sebastien Tressarieu, Stephane Tressarieu, Šantej Heat 2 : Kasprzak, Szombierski, Maida, Tessari Heat 3 : Stange, Smolinski, Carpanese, Zambon Heat 4 : Walner, Hauzinger, Sebastien Tressarieu, Matthieu Tressarieu ef Heat 5 : Terenzani, Maida, Kolenko, Šantej Heat 6 : Szombierski, Kasprzak, Francheti, Carpanese Heat 7 : Stange, Smolinski,Walner, Hauzinger Heat 8 : Sebastien Tressarieu, Terenzani, Stephane Tressarieu, Maida ef Heat 9 : Šantej, Kasprzak, Szombierski, Kolenko Heat 10 : Zambon, Walner, Francheti, Hauzinger Heat 11 : Smolinski, Stephane Tressarieu, Matthieu Tressarieu, Stange Heat 12 : Šantej, Kolenko, Zambon, Francheti IT'S RAINING IN TERENZANO !!! Heat 13 : Smolinski, Terenzani, Stange, Maida Heat 14 : Walner, Szombierski, Kasprzak, Hauzinger Heat 15 : Sebastien Tressarieu, Stephane Tressarieu, Zambon, Francheti Heat 16 : Smolinki, Šantej, Stange, Kolenko Heat 17 : Maida, Terenzani, Walner, Hauzinger HEAVY RAIN, RACE STOPPED!!! JURY MEETING, STILL HEAVY RAIN!!! RACE CANCELLED, RESULTS STANDS AFTER HEAT 14!!! FINAL RESULTS: 1. Germany = 17 2. Poland = 16 3. Slovenia = 12 4. Austria = 11 5. France = 11 6. Italy I = 10 7. Italy II = 7 Edited June 20, 2004 by tomazpozrl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
German Speedway Fan Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 well done guys.. Germany is coming back !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garf Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 well done guys.. Germany is coming back !! Yeah, but where was the real "hard-core" riders in this competition ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 (edited) This is a joke right? What a competition, whats the point of it? Give the nothing countries a chance? Next year we'll have Phil Morris and Tom Brown representing Wales in this farce! Whats the problem?All levels of competition can have finals even the Conference League.Even Under-15`s.Its all part of the learning curve.Why not Wales or Scotland Not sure you meant that about "nothing countries".Once Denmark and the U.S would also be in the same category.For years it was Ole Olsen and a.n.other in the pairs.Even G.B had to include Mauger and Briggs etc to compete at international level.Everyone deserves a chance of glory Edited June 20, 2004 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 So after five rides each it was: France 16 Italy 15 Slovenia 14 ...and Slovenia qualify Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Meynell Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 Whats the problem?All levels of competition can have finals even the Conference League. The problem is that there are far too many international competitions nowadays, which riders have to miss domestic league meetings for. I don't really object to having a pairs competition for lower-ranked nations as a sort of second division to the SWC, but why do we need all the UEM individual competitions as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 Not sure riders from most countries have to miss domestic league meetings Maybe they might miss a few meetings in Britain,but should authorities in other countries give a damn.If promoters in Italy or Germany have an idea that is going to bring the crowds in and naturally the money,then i for one applaud them.Far better than bringing in silly rules IMHO.If its acompetition that people like then it survives if not then it wont be with us for long.Most small(in speedway terms)countries only have a small league,with only a few places available for overseas riders,these competitions give the fans a chance to see others.Maybe the promoters in Britain want to do more promoting and less tinkering with the rules.It seems to me that the sport in Britain is in danger of being left behind.When i was going regularly there was no way that a Swedish or Polish league could compete with Britain but now they are not only up there but maybe better Why? Because people had ideas and worked hard i would guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Meynell Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 Maybe they might miss a few meetings in Britain,but should authorities in other countries give a damn. It's all about giving and taking. Britain (not to mention Poland and Sweden) often employ riders from the smaller countries which gives them experience of a higher level of competition that they would otherwise never have. They certainly provide the opportunity for those riders to ride professionally which could not be sustained in most countries. However, you can't expect to advantage of such opportunities whilst simultaneously disrupting the professional leagues for mickey mouse competitions. I would absolutely support smaller countries wanting to use their best riders for world championship events, national championships and even national league competitions (if it's only a handful of meetings). However, I don't see the purpose of the European Championship, European U-19 Championship (which often features the same riders as the World U-21), European Club Champions Cup (which features countries that don't even have leagues), and now the European Pairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 It's all about giving and taking. I think its all about survival.Most tracks have only a few meetings a year and i guess they need a (meaningful )competition to attract both fans and sponsors.I`m not sure how many miss Swedish matches ,or if there is a problem in Poland either,just this constant(30 years or more)in Britain.I think for too long the promoters failed to see that the speedway world was changing and the grip they had on the sport was loosening.They failed to cope with the fact that Europeans could get back for meetings in their own country,whereas before a foreigner mainly meant someone from the southern hemisphere who was here for the season.When the British promoters employ someone from the continent they know what that entails.At least they should do after all this time.They have a choice not to employ them .Its rather funny to see this problem still being discussed so long after the Swedish ban,etc.Can`t say i`m entirely surprised though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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