Hans Andersen Dirty Rider - It's Official

[sjw ministerofport]

I think that Hans took Rune's leg and the ref made the right decission, if it had been the other way around i would have said it was the right decission. The race was terrific up to that moment and yes i like hard racing but Hans must have known that he had put himself in a possition with his action that would allow the ref to exclude him. The only way to stop dirty ridding or hard ridding is to make sure the the refs clamp down on the offenders. Han's action got himself into trouble and out of the GP. The riders will always try and get the refs to change their minds, it seems at the moment though if anything is wrong Nicki comes into the argument, bit like a fox in a hen coup. One thing i was pleased to see was the ref letting the races continue when certain riders had tried to get a roller and were pulling back.

[fatface]

Not a Hans or Rune fan so unbiased view here.

 

Six and two three's for the majority of the race, but Hans just went a bit too hard into the 1st turn and clipped Rune's leg.

Me too Jez, I have no feelings either way to either rider. Hans was right to be excluded, but it was nothing more than a racing accident. I would liken it to a 50-50 ball in football.

 

Both riders dead level going for the same area of track, neither bottling out, something had to give - that's speedway. And bloody exciting it was too!

[superjoe]

if i remember correctly this happened in the previous gp aswell and i think on both occasions Andersen should not have been excluded. I think first time Holta was excluded?

[Gemini]

One thing i was pleased to see was the ref letting the races continue when certain riders had tried to get a roller and were pulling back.

Agree. I think the referee had a brilliant meeting and any decisions he had to make were the correct ones.

We see loads of times referee's stopping a race because a rider has tried to roll at the start but has not gained an advantage. Re-starting the race gives another chance and is very unfair.

The referee at Cardiff got it spot on.

[Gemma]

People continually talk of how a thread is going off subject. There is no need for Nicki Pedersen to be mentioned in this thread.

 

Hans Andersen is not a dirty rider.

 

Rune Holta stayed on the bike for a good few seconds after contact with Hans, surely if it was Hans' 'dirty riding' he would have fallen off immediatly?

 

Of course garf is going to defend the Danes, especially when they have done nothing wrong and it is simply the 'quick to judge' characters.

 

Hans does not sound like a prat. You need to take into account that foreigners do not always use the most appropriate words as they are unsure as to the correct usage. Just bear that in mind.

 

Rune sure as hell gave as good as he got.

[garf]

People continually talk of how a thread is going off subject. There is no need for Nicki Pedersen to be mentioned in this thread.

 

Hans Andersen is not a dirty rider.

 

Rune Holta stayed on the bike for a good few seconds after contact with Hans, surely if it was Hans' 'dirty riding' he would have fallen off immediatly?

 

Of course garf is going to defend the Danes, especially when they have done nothing wrong and it is simply the 'quick to judge' characters.

 

Hans does not sound like a prat. You need to take into account that foreigners do not always use the most appropriate words as they are unsure as to the correct usage. Just bear that in mind.

 

Rune sure as hell gave as good as he got.

Thanks Gemma.

If Hans was talking Danish to the ref. no one else than Danes ( and maybe other Scandinavians) would have understood what he said.

But he was speaking English, and quite well too, but as you said some phrases might not have been used by an English speaking person.

 

I still believe that Holta waited some seconds to lay down the bike.

Actually I would say he was close to do an Ermolenko.

[salty]

All those defending Hans and accusing Rune of being a diver, have a look at where Andersen finished up on the corner. He went in so fast that he ended up very close to the fence, that shows me he was out of control as alluded to by Johnno in his commentary.

A very similar incident in Wroclaw ended up with Holta being excluded, the difference being that Holta had lost a bit of control down the back straight which contributed to the accident.

[Robyn1972]

One thing i was pleased to see was the ref letting the races continue when certain riders had tried to get a roller and were pulling back.

Not so good for the riders NEXT to the one trying it on though. Several times riders were clearly distracted by someone next to them moving, and as a result failed to get the start they should have done. Personally I think that a rider moving at the start should be penalised, and NOT by being given a straight re-start either!

 

I felt sorry for Yellow/Black & Blue (Sorry - can't remember who and was watching on Sky so had no programme!) in the race when somebody (One of the Dryml's?) conked out at the tapes. Both were thrown for a second I think!