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I been thinking about not being allowed to list your own team so I'm going to change the post to allow your own team. If I can get a top 30 list and I can find a colou image I will create a top 30 kis on YouTube voting is open until the end of May 2020.
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And now for a bit more sensitive topic. Please vote for your favourite top 10 speedway race jackets. I will compile a top 30 and put a video on YouTube of these jackets. All race jackets/bib from the 1970s may be chosen but please do try to specify a year as some did change race jackets regularly during the 1970s. The vote closes at midnight on 31 May 2020. As I started going speedway in 1976 my list would be. 1 Wimbledon (1975-76) my team first race jacket that I saw racing (1976) 2 Bristol (1977-78) 3 Teeside (1976-77) 4 White City (1976) (red) 5 Scunthorpe (1976) 6 Wimbledon (1977) (chevron) 7 Belle Vue (1970-76 and 1978-79) 8 Hackney (1973-79) 9 Halifax (1975-78) 10 Paisley (1975-76) Where a race jacket is not significantly different from previous season by a Gulf badge or number being present or not in some cases these race bibs will be grouped together, as the main element of the race jacket (emblem/s) has not changed.
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Carrying on the longest names theme. Does anyone know if any speedway meeting have been held at Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateapokaiwhenuakitanatahu in New Zealand? For the place name pronunciation check out this music video on YouTube from Quantum jump - The Lone Ranger https://youtu.be/Tm2arTAtKXg
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1965 - Stal Gorzow tour on the British tracks
Robbie B replied to PolskiZuzel's topic in Years Gone By
Stal Gorzow also raced against some Gulf British League teams in 1977. Details ar on the Speedway Researcher's website -
I can also sports cancelling events due potential breaches of duty of care they owe to their employees namely the sportsman. If someone contacts the virus and sadly dies or is prevented due to illness in carrying on with their sporting careers that the team concerned will no-doubt face a tortious action for breaching their duty of care towards them. That in case of footballers would run into millions.
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If the UK government enforce postponement of events due to the virus outbreak that prevents the contractual parties performing their side of the contract this is known as contract frustration. When a contract is frustrated by exceptional circumstances outside the control of the parties the contract becomes unenforceable with recompense paid to all parties to place them back in the same position prior to the contracts existence minus any benefit/s that the parties may had enjoyed prior to the contract being frustrated. I personally can see plenty of UK litigation occurring under the Law Reform (Frustrated Contracts) Act 1943 . No-doubt other nations may have similar laws as the UK.
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I have also noticed that the annual Kent v Wimbledon (John Cearns Cup) fixture is missing from the Kent fixture list in 2020.
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I saw this and I guess that all the extra league fixtures may be caused an issue with the fixtures thereby not allowing the Championship Shield competition in 2020 to operate which is a valid and reasonable reason for its scraping, but a simple statement would have been nice from Speedway GB for the exact reason why it is not continuing.
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You may be correct on this tocha but SGB speedway should make a statement regarding this so fans know what is happening with the competition.
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Excellent to see the 2020 fixtures have now been released and i have updated the relevant wikipedia pages. But I have notice that there are no fixtures for the SGB Championship Shield listed, so does anyone know if has this competition been scrapped?
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Last one for a couple of days that is living memory of some on here. The Daily Mail reported 1 September 1965 that the British Final of the World Speedway Championship at West Ham was held up for 45 minutes, due to riders striking and demanding more money. The meeting went ahead only because the riders terms were agreed to. In the Daily Mail 12 February 1937 the Ministry of Labour stated that they would restrict the number of foreign riders racing in British league to prevent a strike by speedway riders. And that only in special circumstances would the ministry allow foreign riders to be signed and I quote "a track will have to be in a plight when a star rider from abroad can prevent a shutting down and the sacking of British employees before the ministry would grant a labour permit". So the riders have beaten the Speedway Control Board's ruling that tracks could each sign an extra foreign rider.
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That I bow to your knowledge of pre-war speedway. And after looking on the speedway champions website I can see that it states the match Race Championship was promoted as World Championship but could not get recognistition. At the time I was searching for stories to add to iris123 excellent topic regarding strikes, bans and protest that I considered has uncovered some extremely interesting information that has been long forgotten about. And if at the time of my earlier post I forgot that the Match Race Championship started in 1931 it was something that slipped my mind at the time, and this is why I asked whether the Star Riders Champions were considered as World Champions, an easy mistake to make, and now you have supplied me with the answer I required. so now back to strikes, bans and protests when I have in the next few days.
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I was not speculating but asking whether Star Riders Champions were considered to be World Champions not, as I do not the answer to this. You mentioning the Golden Helmet match Race championship is the most likely event the article was talking, but it not state the Golden Helmet Match Race Championship only that Vic Huxley is now World Champion. And as my post stated this is something for discussion. Afterall the text was written by Tom Stenner a well respected speedway writer of the time.
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I bow to your knowledge Norbold, ut Im only reporting what is in the daily mail and no-more than this.
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In 1946 I notice that due the unpopular grading system and low riders were going strike in England unless their demands were met as they wanted £2 a start and point. Daily Mail 25 May 1946 page 4 titled 'speedway facing a strike' On the 28 May 1946 the Daily Mail starts that rider had agreed terms with the grading system being scraped with riders in the National League being paid 35 shilling a start and point and in the Northern League £1 a start and point.
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I'm only 1938 so far but following form my previous message in 1938 Bluey Wilkinson, Lionel van Pragg, Bill Kitchen and Eric langton pulled out of a test match between England and Australia vs USA unless their payment was increased by £2 a point and 10 shilling start. Article written by Tom Stenner in the Daily Mail 13 September 1938 page 14 and titled 'speedway strike'. The riders complained that they were underpaid in the previous test match by receiving 30 shillings a point and £1 a start.
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iris123 I found another in the Daily Mail 1 June 1935 page 14, titled riders Threaten A Strike) news story by Tom Stenner. Riders threatening to strike over non-payment of their £2 booking fee this season (1935) the strike is due to be called y the Riders Association and unless they received contracts on the same terms as 1934 they would in 2 days time. And another rider strike mentioned in the Daily Mail on 8 April 1938, page 17. (titled Uncensored Sports Parade), in an article by Tom Stenner regarding riders who easily earn £60 - £100 per week demanding a £300 singing on fee.
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Nice One iris123 another to your tlist in this excellent topic iris123 I have just read this from the Daily Mail did you at the bottom of the news story that it stated that now Vic Huxley is definity World Champion the question of the next challenger becomes important. With it mentioning Eric Langton and Haig as outstanding northern riders , and Burton, Jack Parker and Dicky Case having a strong for the south. And as Tom Stenner writes the committee should start arranging eliminating races between these riders. I wonder of they considered the Star Riders Champion as World champion afterall Vic Huxley did win the 1930 event as would have been the reigning champion at the time of this news story. iris123 you might stumble across something interesting here and extremely debatable were Star Riders considered World Champions? may be a topic for a separate page.
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I know this is off topic but the Daily Mirror reports the 1936 World Final attendance odf about 74,000 fans which is more than the 65,000 I have seen in books. interestingly it reports that the reason why Eric Langton was not excluded for breaking the tapes in the run-off is because under match race rule there cannot be a false start. sadly, the forum will not allow me to upload any more articles due to overgoing my mb allocation for this space
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To confirm the Daily Mirror reporting regarding the speedway strike being called off is this report in the 27 July 1937 Daily Express
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You many be right I still have found their names yet. But I found this in the Daily Express on 10 June 1937 relating to a different possible speedway strike regarding pay
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At this I do not know the names of these riders and this is something I will discover somehow.. You may be correct in regards the Putt Mossman troupe but as yet I have not come across this name, but who knows what I will find. But I do think that it is ironic that with some many complaints about the standards of American riders by fellow riders and supporters that in that years world Final it as a USA 1-2-3 with Jack Milne, Wilbur Lamoreaux and Cordy Milne. I will keep looking online as I do not possess that many 1937 Speedway News in PDF format. The 29 September Daily Mirror reported that the American riders turned down an opportunity to ride against England in England in five official test matches. So there must be some bitter feelings still between the riders as to what happen on the 1937. Many thanks iris123 for creating this topic as it has been a really enjoyable read.
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