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In Wimbledon's team in 1957 and 1958 their was Ronnie Moore, Barry Briggs and Ivan Mauger. On Tuesday 16 September 1958 in a challenge match away against Southampton they all rode together in the same team. And again at home against Oxford in a National League match on Monday 22 September 1958. Also in both of these matches was future World Pairs Champion Bob Andrews.
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T forgot all about that one, after typing all the above. Many thanks
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Monday 10 October in a Challenge Match between Birmingham and Cradley Heath when Cradley only used six riders but more interestingly 12 World finalists were on show in the meeting. Birmingham 23 Hans Nielsen 9, Rick Miller (guest) 7, Andy Grahame 4, Neil Evitts 2, Bruce Cribb 1, Steve Bastable 0, Petr Ondrasik 0 Cradley Heath 55 Phil Collins 12, Erik Gundersen 11, Alan Grahame 11, Simon Wigg 10, Peter Ravn 6, Jan Pedersen 5 Bruce Cribb, did qualify as reserve in the 1978 World ice Speedway Individual Final representing Great Britain, and the 1979 World Team Cup Final for New Zealand. Many thanks to iris123 for pointing out that Bruce qualified for the 1988 World Ice Speedway Final in Eindhoven.
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I have listed all matches when Cradley Heath 1983 matches when they used 7 former, current and future World Finalists along with the teams that they were racing against (as long as it 11 World Finalists - to keep the page short as possible). Will 11 World Finalists be the record I don't know yet. if you reply to this post please DO NOT COPY AND PASTE due to its length. World Finalists will be in bold Saturday 7 May Cradley Heath 56, Birmingham 22 (League Cup) Cradley Heath: Phil Collins 11, Erik Gundersen 11, Peter Ravn 9, Simon Wigg 8, Alan Grahame 7, Lance King 6, Jan Pedersen 4 Birmingham Andy Grahame 7, Hans Nielsen 6, John Jorgensen 4, Nigel Sparshott 2, Kent Nore 2, Neil Evitts 1, Mike Wilding 0 Thursday 19 May Wimbledon 35, Cradley Heath 43 (British League) Wimbledon: Dave Jessup 11, Kelvin Tatum 7, Malcolm Simmons 6, Kai Niemi 5, Ari Koponen 4, Roger Johns 2, Mike Ferreira 0 Cradley Heath: Simon Wigg 11, Erik Gundersen 11, Peter Ravn 6, Alan Grahame 6, Phil Collins 6, Lance King 4, Jan Pedersen 1 Wednesday 25 May Away to Poole (British League) Cradley Heath won 51-27 Cradley Heath: Erik Gundersen 12, Simon Wigg 10, Phil Collins 9, Lance King 7, Peter Ravn 5, Alan Grahame 4, Jan Pedersen 4. Poole only had two finalists Michael Lee & John Davis. Saturday 28 May Cradley Heath 45, Reading 33 (British League) Cradley Heath: Erik Gundersen 9, Lance King 9, Alan Grahame 9, Simon Wigg 6, Peter Ravn 5, Simon Cross 4, Phil Collins 2. Reading: Bobby Schwartz 14, Jan Andersson 10, Mitch Shirra 7, Derek Harrison 1, Glyn Taylor 1, Tim Hunt 0, Richard Knight 1. Saturday 4 June Cradley Heath 49, Coventry 29 (British League) Cradley Heath: Simon Wigg 11, Erik Gundersen 9, Lance King 10, Phil Collins 8, Andy Grahame (guest) 7, Peter Ravn 6, Alan Grahame 3. Coventry: Ole Olsen 11, Steve Bastable 9, Tommy Knudsen 6, Sanm Nikolajsen 2, Kevin Hawkins 1, Rick Miller 0. Saturday 25 June Home to Sheffield (British League) Cradley Heath won 56-22 Cradley Heath: Phil Collins 12, Erik Gundersen 11, Simon Wigg 10, Alan Grahame 8, Lance King 6, Peter Ravn 6, Jan Pedersen 3. Sheffield only had one finalists.Shawn Moran. Thursday 7 July Away to Sheffield (British League) Cradley Heath won 46-32 Cradley Heath: Erik Gundersen 10, Lance King 9, Alan Grahame 7, Phil Collins 6, Jan Pedersen 6, Simon Wigg 4, Peter Ravn 4. Sheffield only had one finalists.Shawn Moran. Saturday 9 July Home to Poole (Speedway Star KO Cup quarter final 1st leg) Cradley Heath won 53-25 Cradley Heath: Alan Grahame 12, Phil Collins 9, Simon Wigg 8, Erik Gundersen 7, Peter Ravn 7, Lance King 6, Jan Pedersen 4. Poole only had two finalists Michael Lee & John Davis. Monday 11 July Away to Birmingham (British League) Cradley Heath won 42-36 Cradley Heath: Erik Gundersen 10, Phil Collins 8, Simon Wigg 6, Peter Ravn 5, Jan Pedersen 5, Alan Grahame 4, Lance King 4. Birmingham only had three finalists.Hans Nielsen, Neil Evitts and John Jorgensen. Wednesday 13 July Away to Poole (Speedway Star KO Cup quarter final 2nd leg) Cradley Heath won 43-35 Cradley Heath: Simon Wigg 9, Erik Gundersen 8, Alan Grahame 7, Lance King 7, Jan Pedersen 5, Phil Collins 4, Peter Ravn 3. Poole only had two finalists.Michael Lee & John Davis. Saturday 23 July Away to Halifax (British League) Halifax 13, Cradley Heath 11 (abandoned) Cradley Heath: Simon Wigg 3, Erik Gundersen 3, Simon Cross 3, Lance King 1, Phil Collins 1, Alan Grahame 0, Peter Ravn 0. Halifax only had three finalists Doug Wyer, Kenny Carter and Eric Boocock. Saturday 6 August Home to Poole (British League) Cradley Heath won 57-21 Cradley Heath: Alan Grahame 10, Erik Gundersen 9, Lance King 9, Phil Collins 8, Peter Ravn 8, Simon Wigg 7, Jan Pedersen 6. Poole only had two finalists Michael Lee & John Davis. Saturday 13 August Home to King's Lynn (British League) Cradley Heath won 59-19 Cradley Heath: Lance King 12, Phil Collins 12, Simon Wigg 9, Erik Gundersen 9, Alan Grahame 8, Jan Pedersen 5, Peter Ravn 4. King's Lynn only had two finalists John Louis & Gordon Kennett. Sunday 14 August Away to King's Lynn (British League) Cradley Heath won 47-31 Cradley Heath: Erik Gundersen 11, Simon Wigg 9, Phil Collins 8, Lance King 7, Alan Grahame 6, Peter Ravn 3. Jan Pedersen 3. King's Lynn only had two finalists John Louis & Gordon Kennett. Saturday 20 August Home to Leicester (British League) Cradley Heath won 56-22 Cradley Heath: Phil Collins 12, Erik Gundersen 11, Simon Wigg 10, Alan Grahame 9, Lance King 7, Peter Ravn 5, Simon Cross 2. Leicester only had one finalists Les Collins. Thursday 25 August Ipswich 46, Cradley Heath 32 (British League) ipswich: Billy Sanders 12, Jeremy Doncaster 11, Dennis Sigalos 10, Preben Eriksen 6, Nigel Flatman 4, Andy Hines 3, Carl Baldwin 0. Cradley Heath: Erik Gundersen 9, Alan Grahame 7, Lance King 6, Peter Ravn 5, Simon Wigg 3, Phil Collins 1, Simon Cross 1. Monday 29 August Home to Swindon (British League) Cradley Heath won 53-25 Cradley Heath: Simon Wigg 12, Alan Grahame 10, Erik Gundersen 9, Phil Collins 8, Lance King 7, Peter Ravn 5, Simon Cross 2. Swindon only had one finalists Phil Crump. Monday 29 August Away to Swindon (British League) Cradley Heath won 49-29 Cradley Heath: Phil Collins 10, Erik Gundersen 9, Alan Grahame 8, Simon Wigg 8, Lance King 7, Peter Ravn 5, Simon Cross 2. Swindon only had one finalists Phil Crump. Saturday 10 September Belle Vue 29, Cradley Heath 49 (British League) Belle Vue: Chris Morton 9, Peter Collins 9, Larry Ross 9, Peter Carr 3, Andy Smith 2, Kenny McKinna 0, Louis Carr 0. Cradley Heath: Erik Gundersen 11, Simon Wigg 10, Peter Ravn 9, Lance King 8, Phil Collins 7, Alan Grahame 3, Simon Cross 1. Monday 19 September Away to Reading (Speedway Sta KO Cup semi final 1st leg) Cradley Heath won 46-32 Cradley Heath: Erik Gundersen 11, Alan Grahame 9, Bo Petersen (guest) 7, Peter Ravn 6, Simon Wigg 5, Phil Collins 4, Simon Cross 4. Reading only had three finalists Bobby Schwartz, Mitch Shirra and Jan Andersson. Saturday 24 September Home to Reading (Speedway Sta KO Cup semi final 2nd leg) Cradley Heath won 47-31 Cradley Heath: Erik Gundersen 12, Simon Wigg 8, Phil Collins 8, Alan Grahame 7, Peter Ravn 6, Jan Pedersen 4, Simon Cross 2. Reading only had three finalists Bobby Schwartz, Mitch Shirra and Jan Andersson. Tuesday 27 September Away to Leicester (British League) Cradley Heath won 56-22 Cradley Heath: Simon Wigg 12, Phil Collins 10, Erik Gundersen 9, Alan Grahame 8, Peter Ravn 7, Jan Pedersen 5, Andy Grahame (guest) 5. Leicester only had one finalists Les Collins. Wednesday 28 September Home to Swindon (Midland Cup 1st leg) Cradley Heath won 60-18 Cradley Heath: Alan Grahame 11, Erik Gundersen 10, Phil Collins 10, Peter Ravn 10, Simon Wigg 10, Jan Pedersen 9, Simon Cross 0. Swindon only had one finalists Phil Crump. Friday 30 September Away to Swindon (Midland Cup 1st leg) Cradley Heath won 40-38 Cradley Heath: Simon Wigg 10, Erik Gundersen 10, Alan Grahame 10, Peter Ravn 4, Simon Cross 2, Phil Collins 2, Jan Pedersen 2. Swindon only had one finalists Phil Crump. Thursday 6 October Wimbledon 40, Cradley Heath 38 (Challenge) Wimbledon: Dave Jessup 9, Kelvin Tatum 8, Roger Johns 7, Kai Niemi 5, Ari Koponen 4, Mike Ferreira 4, Malcolm Simmons 3 Cradley Heath: Erik Gundersen 12, Jan Pedersen 7, Alan Grahame 7, Simon Wigg 5, Phil Collins 3, Peter Ravn 2, Simon Cross 2 Wednesday 19 October Away to Coventry (Midland Cup Final 1st leg) Cradley Heath won 40-38 Cradley Heath: Erik Gundersen 11, Simon Wigg 6, Alan Grahame 6, Phil Collins 6, Peter Ravn 5, Simon Cross 3, Jan Pedersen 3. Coventry only had three finalists Steve Bastable, Rick Miller and John Davis. Saturday 22 October Home to Wimbledon (British League) Cradley Heath won 59-19 Cradley Heath: Erik Gundersen 11, Alan Grahame 11, Simon Wigg 9, Peter Ravn 8, Simon Cross 8, Phil Collins 7, Jan Pedersen 5. Wimbledon only had three finalists Dave Jessup, Malcolm Simmons and Kai Niemi. Monday 24 October Home to Coventry (Midland Cup Final 2nd leg) Cradley Heath won 56-22 Cradley Heath: Lance King 11, Erik Gundersen 10, Alan Grahame 9, Phil Collins 9, Peter Ravn 7, Simon Wigg 6, Jan Pedersen 4. Coventry only had three finalists Steve Bastable, Rick Miller and Jan Andersson. Wednesday 26 October Away to Poole (Challenge) Cradley Heath won 46-32 Cradley Heath: Erik Gundersen 12, Alan Grahame 9, Lance King 8, Simon Wigg 7, Peter Ravn 6, Phil Collins 4, Jan Pedersen 0. Poole only had three finalists Mitch Shirra, Sam Ermolenko and Michael Lee. Wednesday 28 October Away to Belle Vue (Challenge) Cradley Heath won 34-43 Belle Vue: Chris Morton 11, Peter Collins 8, Peter Carr 6, Kenny McKinna 3, Andy Smith 3, Larry Ross 2, Louis Carr 1. Cradley Heath: Lance King 10, Erik Gundersen 8, Simon Wigg 8, Alan Grahame 6, Phil Collins 4, Peter Ravn 4, Simon Cross 2.
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Thursday 19 May 1983 the British League match Wimbledon vs Cradley Heath had 11 former, current and future World finalists on show. For Wimbledon: Dave Jessup, Kai Niemi, Malcolm Simmons and Kelvin Tatum. For Cradley Heath: Simon Wigg, Peter Ravn, Erik Gundersen, Alan Grahame, Phil Collins, Jan O. Pedersen and Lance King. The match score was Wimbledon 35, Cradley Heath 43 Wimbledon beat Cradley Heath at home later in the year. Peter Ravn, also qualified for the 1987 2-day final in Amsterdam as reserve and rode in heat 15 scoring 1 point after Gerd Riss broke the tapes. This make this 1983 particular Cradley Heath team being made-up of all former, current and future World finalists. Whether 11 riders in one meeting is a record I don't know. The first time that these Cradley Heath riders rode together as team was on May 7 at home against Birmingham (League Cup) Cradley won 56-22. For the British League it's the Wimbledon fixture that I have mentioned above. Steve, I think that this finally answers your question. I did double check the Speedway Star for 1983 and Peter Ravn did ride in most of that seasons meetings for Cradley Heath sometimes alongside Simon Cross, so you can also add him to those teams of world finalists who rode in a meeting.
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I have fully completed programmes for all of the Internationale meetings, and none of the qualifying rounds programmes in 1961 schedule a run off race to decide the overall winner if riders tied during the meeting. My file for the Internationale is on the Speedway Researcher website under the Wimbledon team section.
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Does anyone have the heat details and race times for the Gulf British League match Ipswich 42, Wimbledon 36 that was raced on Saturday 25 August 1979. As I only need this result to complete my Wimbledon 1979 file for the Speedway researcher website and I can't find my programme anywhere. The details were never published in the Speedway Star for that week due to them arriving late, and the magazine never published the information in kater editions. many thanks in advance for any help.
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I will update this now. One thing I did note was the dates didn't include 1928 when venues operated only on open licences.
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Very sad to hear of Bryan's passing my condolences to his family and friends. Bryan, was a genius and way ahead of his time with his remarkable statistics that must have taken him hours to compile. Easily one of the best parts of the Speedway Star magazine in my youth. And also make terrific reading even today.
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There's a small page about Crystal Palace on wikipedia, but like you I'm surprised of their omission. Because of this I added to that list on wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Palace_Glaziers
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Autrey Could He Have Been World Champion In 1979.?
Robbie B replied to Sidney the robin's topic in Years Gone By
What everyone has to remember about Scott's victory in the 1979 Grand Prix victory was that the it was a one-off final raced at Wimbledon. All British league clubs held qualifying rounds prior to the final so that the field could be determined. Scott, also won the Daily Express spring classic at Wimbledon in 1979. Scott, loved the Wimbledon track and i can still remember him breaking the track record in 1978. He was entering turn 3 before the other riders in the race had come out off the second turn. -
Speedway Star Back Cover Photos In 1976 And 1977
Robbie B replied to PElford's topic in Years Gone By
Hi the date is 27 November 1976. I have a image of the cober that I used on my now defunct wimbledon 1976 website that I had and I didn't notice the full date sorry about that. -
Speedway Star Back Cover Photos In 1976 And 1977
Robbie B replied to PElford's topic in Years Gone By
the 1976 Speedway Star featuring Joe Owen is dated Saturday 27 November and the 1977 Speedway Star featuring Colin Richardson is dated Saturday 5 November. The dates on the Speedway Star in 1976 & 1977 have Saturday dates on them but you could buy the magazine before this date, as I always did from Eddie the magazine and book seller at Plough Lane on a Thursday. -
Sadly Tommy's last meeting in the UK was the Saturday after the Marlboro Southern Championship qualifying round at Wimbledon. As the team had a Gulf British League match at Halifax on May 15 when he scored 12+1 from 5 rides. I have the programme but the second half results are blank in the programme I have. Tommy won the Marlboro Southern Championship in 1975. And the Laurels in 1976 was won by Martin Ashby with a 15 points on a very wet Thursday night, at Plough Lane on October 28.
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Thursday 8 April 1976. Tommy Jansson beating the holder Martin Ashby 2-0 at Plough Lane in the first leg of the competition before the Wimbledon's league match against Belle Vue. The league match result was Wimbledon 35, Belle Vue 43. pop group Mud (Wimbledon supporters) sponsored the second half which was won by Peter Collins from Martin Ashby and Tommy Jansson. Chris Morton retired in the final. If I remember correctly a picture of the pop group appeared on the back cover of the Speedway Star after the event with the finalists.
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Exactly 41 years ago today Wimbledon 32, Reading 46 (Challenge Match) still remember it well today. My first taste of live speedway so much different from watching it on the telly which I been doing for a while. The Noise, Smell and Atmosphere was brilliant. This is when I choose Wimbledon as my team to support then and forever despite the closure of the stadium to speedway.
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This is just for fun and please do list other years if you want to, Image that there was a speedway world cup in 1936 what teams do you think would be in the final. Personally I have a quick check on the riders available and managed only four really competitive teams and they're listed below. I haven't included Wilbur Lamoreaux in the USA team even though if I was their manager I would flown him into the country for the final at Wembley. Australian Ron Johnson was added the challengers team to help strengthen them. Who would you pick for 1936 and others years? 1936 World Cup Final England 1 Eric Langton 2 Frank Charles 3 Jack Parker 4 Bill Kitchen 5 George Newton Australia 1 Lionel Van Praag 2 Bluey Wilkinson 3 Vic Huxley 4 Max Grosskreutz 5 Dick Case USA 1 Jack Milne 2 Cordy Milne 3 Benny Kaufman 4 Pete Coleman 5 Sam Arena Challengers 1 Morian Hansen 2 Wally Kilmister 3 Eric Chitty 4 Jimmy Gibb 5 Ron Johnson
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many thanks to armieg I now have all the information I need.
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I' am making a Wimbledon 1979 file for the Speedway Researcher website, but I'm stuck working out the format for the Daily Mirror Four Team Tournament that was raced at Reading. The meeting was postponed on Monday 23 April but was restaged on 2 July. The format used is not a common one used as teams rode with partners in their heats rather than the usual format of one rider from each side in every race. Does anyone have the format for this competition, so that I complete the line up correctly and put the riders into their true helmet colours? Many thanks for any help in advance.
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My Internationale file is now on the Speedway Researcher website in the Wimbledon year by year team section.
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This is very kind of you Norbold. And I thank you once for again for sending me details required for 1961 Internationales. Plus also to Andrew Skeels of the Speedway Star for their 1962 meeting report. This information help confirmed details for these years.
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Just to inform everyone on here that I have just sent Matt at the Speedway Researcher website my full colour document of the 'Complete History of the Speedway Internationale' that includes all full race details and programme covers from every single meeting from this historic event. Although I haven't included my meeting reports due to file size plus also I want to do a rewrite of them. I don't know when he will put on his website. Hope that you like my file when it's available. Robert