northyorksbear

Lindgren - riding like a true number 1 - TWK will be drooling (and not for the usual reasons )

Thanks for genuine reply - I did have you down as one of the more sensible posters. I was also surprised at lack of pace Rosen showed, last season Bears couldn't catch him , last night he was caught, passed and then left behind, but it is early days - maybe too much expectation has been placed on him. Don't knock mid-table seasons, I would have grabbed some of those in years gone by

If you classify biting as responding to a totally inaccurate post which gives a false impression of the evening - guilty as charged. I didn't have you down as a poster who played silly games such as that

I must have been watching a different meeting aswell Ht 3 Skiddy inside Kerr coming off bend 2 and then up inside Ht 4 Summers chased and passed Rosen Ht 7 Graversen chased and passed Kerr Ht 9 Schramm chased and passed Wilko Ht 10 Lawson 3rd going into bends 3 & 4 on 1st lap, leading coming down home straight Ht 13 Summers round Rosen on bends 3 & 4 There were numerous other instances of riders "overtaking" on first two bends having missed the gate Which were the two "genuine" overtakes and why not the others? I do agree about Rose he scored more than you would expect from a rookie number 7 and looked on the pace, did remind me of Kerr when he came to STMP at beginning of last season, although perhaps not as polished and quick. Big problem for Diamonds last night was that bottom three scorers on both sides Newcastle won 9-8, yet Redcar won by 20!! Serious lack of heat winners and in bottom three were nos 1 & 5, I'm afraid it was Dolph who rode at 1 only beating Bears riders who fell (although ahead at the time).

So, just after the reverse fixture at Brough Park Diamonds fans would be feeling confident about this match and Bears fans apprehensive,,,now a week later Redcar have had two thumping wins and looked very convincing while Newcastle have had two defeats and the less patient fans are already calling for changes Of course the standard of the opposition in each case could be a contributing factor, but it all adds up to an interesting clash, with the added intrigue of a potential new Bear riding at no 4. I think it will be a close meeting, Diamonds always go well round STMP, and result could hinge on which Lindgren turns up, the one who rode like Freddie a couple of times last season, or the one who resembled Dolph Lundgren also have Diamonds got their machine issues sorted. Hopefully a good track again and a safe meeting, hope our centregreen man doesn't gets too confused over his allegiances!! Likely teams: Bears 1. Richard Lawson 2. Carl Wilkinson 3. Hugh Skidmore 4. r/r (or ????) 5. Aaron Summers 6. Jan Graversen 7. Luke Crang Diamonds 1. Freddie/Dolph Lindgren 2. Christian Henry 3. Stuart Robson 4. Lewis Kerr 5. Anton Rosen 6. Chris Schramm 7. Lewis Rose

Michael Aspel or Michael Parkinson ??

I think you are a bit high there - more like £600. I would have thought that club is supplying them if they are insisting team wears them?? Just had a quick search and found some around £375 - getting cheaper!

Looks like Redcar are now involved in Aussie Visa saga with Kozza Smith possibly having some issues, although Havvy quoted in Speedway Star seems positive about prospects

Guess it depends on circumstances he leaves in - may get the James Grieves/Ty Proctor treatment who gave their all for the club, moved on for valid reasons and receive a tremendous reception whenever they return.

Just watching world cup draw - is that George English sat next to Roy Hodgson

Like you I too have a different view to RR on the Lyons who rode for us and was a genuine number 1, and as he won Bear of the year I guess quite a few other Bears fans were very satisfied with his contributions. Stonehewer ... well that's a different story

Redcar are using the policy of not naming team until 30 mins before kick-off. It may be a case of who turns up

Can't see what you are all worried about plenty of Fridays free in November & December with a guarantee of nil clashes with other meetings

If true and Redcar fans were aware of this then maybe you've hit on a reason why some 300 votes were cast for other riders and Micky only got a third of total votes, not saying it is what the poll should be about but fans have different views on what makes a "rider of the year"

It's ok - next year we are going to book the mystery virus for Newcastle trips (problem is - it may have to hit a few all at once )

It's all a bit irrelevant until we know league structure and points limit etc etc, but based on current rules and looking at riders from this season this is my initial starting point using most recent averages Lawson 8.28 Summers 7.14 Ostergaard 6.52 Jorgensen 6.14 Skidmore 5.65 Wilkinson 5.59 3.00 (Bates/Crang/Phillips)

I wouldn't call Glasgow a superteam!! ;)

That must have been a hell of a jump at the tapes

Congrats to Diamonds great to see trophies won by NE teams, lets hope one of us can see off Somerset in Play offs

End of debate

You need to get back on your pills again

And I applaud those fans, it isn't easy having watched your team collapse to then come on public form and praise the other team especially when there is the local rivalry associated. I have no doubts Newcastle will have a strong finish to the season, you have too good a line up not to. To go from winning first seven heats last night 22-20 to losing the next seven 29-13 was almost a freakish event. In my opinion your heat leaders were totally to blame, not winning a heat between them and Lindgren having scored 16+1, 12+1 & 14 on his visits to Redcar this season was not at the races, only Redcar rider he beat started off 15m! Rosen looks another gem, very quick, but not the same rider after his excursion towards pits fence in heat 8!

To To T In my opinion this is rule that needs to be applied to try and stop all unsatisfactory starts and "flyers" 15.3.1 Riders must not prepare their Starting area by turning the bike in a clock-wise direction. The Start Marshal will bring the Riders to the tapes in an orderly fashion. The front wheel must be within 75mm of the tapes and all parts of the motorcycle and Rider’s limbs must be within the marked Grid (nb. lines are neutral and do not form part of the Start Grid) and all ignition cut-out lanyards must be operative. If all riders are within 75mm then they can't move forward to gain advantage without real risk of touching tapes. sadly 75mm is never applied, watch next GP or Elite league match - riders starting positions are all over and most pull back after starting marshall moves away!! I think they were done under the refs interpretation of a, but I agree with you why couldn't he press button then give warning. I also feel Kus was very unlucky, as it appeared to me bike was pulling him to tapes straight away and he angled front wheel to avoid touching tapes, not trying to "cheat" or if you want politically correct - gain an advantage. Which I think Summers, Tully & Lindgren (plus Kerr and Wilkinson from early heats )had done

Here you go 15.3.4 The following are Starting Offences; (a) failing to proceed directly to the Starting Area or otherwise delaying the start of a Heat, b not being ready to race or deemed to be under the jurisdiction of the Start Marshal at the expiry of the 2-minute allowance, © taking up the wrong position, (d) not complying with the Start Marshal instructions, (e) by any means wrongly preventing the raising of the gate or (f) for a Rider or Rider’s machinery or any part of it to touch or break the tapes after the Green Starting Light has been displayed.

I agree Redcar's chances are about the same as Plymouth signing Darcy Ward for next season, but Leicester's chances are the same as Plymouth signing Darcey Bussell No way near the same, go ask a bookie for odds on Leicester !!