
Nigel
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Any relation to the Cory who was team manager at Stamford Bridge in 1932?
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I found a few interest bits about Cearns in that wonderful book "Speedway in London" by Norman Jacobs (Cash only Norman) International Speedways Ltd had only two tracks left in 1931..Harringay and Wimbeldon. Haringay closed early in 1931, so leaving Wimbledon as their sole track. Cearns was a director of ISL, I assume he was managing the track on behalf of ISL in 31. I have an idea where the info is on the ending of ISL but i cant access the source at the mo. The ending of ISL may have been sometime after it had disposed of Wimbledon?
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Actually I believe ISL went into recivership or some think like .. I think the company was wound up in the high court. Should be mentioned in the Times newspaper. They where still running tracks in in 1931 Harringay was one but it closed early in the season. I will have to check the date the company was disolved.
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Moxey .. Im to long in the tooth to get wound up about a bit of micky taking over my name.. it dont bother me.. just banter... hope you have taken things in the same spirit
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you should remember the rest of the song.... Nigel Pearson .. now thats uncalled for ..a bit below the belt.. how low will you stoop And your Christian name is ??????? is it so embarrassing and you live where??????? ... just for you no smilies
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I am interested in Bill Cearns.... I know he had a lot to do with High Beech until it closed. Had an interest in Hall Green which I am familiar with. I also believe he was a director of ISL the company which ran Wimbledon, was he involved with the day to day running of this track before ISL sold out? did Cearns then become sole promoter (when?). Is it true he was also a director of West Ham Football club and a director of a greyhound club?. Having just googled him. seems he was the chairman at West Ham FC
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you must be psychic And your christian name is ? And you live where ? With respect can I correct your grammer, if you are making personal remarks direct to me, It should be.... In the first person "And even more demeaning is that you appear to be a Brummie", not in the third person "And even more demeaning is that he appears to be a Brummie. The same goes for your first remark. If it was not a direct remark it is bad manners to talk in the 'third person' while the person you are talking about is listening... Nigel Boocock, Nigel Mansell et al...
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There’s always one windup merchant with nothing better to do I bet you deny the holocaust as well If you are going to write wind up posts at least make them amusing Oh and thank you for your enlightening contribution to speedway history As you have such grave concern.. can I ask what your contribution is to help the poor people of cumbria You can get back to your reality TV show now.....something about jungle is it
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Not sure if Cearns was involved with the first meeting at High Beech? he cetainly was with latter ones. Everyone seems to forget that the HB meeting was a joint effort with the Colchester Club the president of which was Ernie J Bass the man who built and promoted Lea Bridge Speedway.
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Which edition do you have .....there will be more corrections in the 3rd..... Hoskins CV. 1928 Arrived in England with 4 riders? in the wake of Australian Promoter A J Hunting. First employment ..very short lived consultant to Fred Mockford at C/Palace . Then as manager at Brighton for Major Kinnersley of Associated Southern Speedways Brighton Ltd. which closed after a handful of meetings, Moved north to Salford Manchester to manage the track for a group of Stockport business men, although he did have a few shares (50) in the Salford company Albion Auto Racers Ltd, also managed Middlesbrough (Albion Auto Racers Middlesbrough LTD) not a good first year ? In the first few years J H managed tracks for others and did not put up his own money as Promoter. (well not much anyway) There are stories in the press that Major Kinnersley brought J H to England but I think it unlikely, more evidence needed.
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Dear Brian, how could Hoskins be responsable for High Beech? He was on the same boat as A J Hunting and Hunting arrived on th 19th of Feb... Hoskins in his wake ..... so how did he organise the meeting... by telegraph from onboard ship? The two Australians to ride at High Beech were Galloway and Mckay.. courtesy of Jimmy Baxter
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OHHHHHHH no no no no no no no no no .....gawd help us.. As another grummpy old man said "I dont belieive it" How on earth can some one like Brian Burford write such utter tosh.. He needs castigating or something that sounds like it for this perpetration of history....he should know better Hoskins had nothing what so ever to do with the introduction of Speedway into England.. and I would have thought it common knowlage Hoskins had nothing to do with High Beech.. Actually Hoskins being responsable for High Beech is a new one on me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Those responsable for bringing Speedway to England are ...... Jimmy Baxter and Australian promoter Keith Mckay et al and their company DTS ltd, plus A J Hunting et al and his company ISL.... when will the Hoskins myth die
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The reason for the yellow and black flag is simple, the black diagonal cross contrasting on a yellow background makes it highly visible and unlikely to be mistaken for any other flag. "In the early days with six man handicap races colours included, green, pink and one with spots on it. (not sure of the colour) In 1929 teams often wore helmet covers in team colours, Wembly in red and white halves, Lea Bridge in a black and white check cover. In many cases both riders of the home team wore red covers and the away riders wore blue. Birmingham 1930 colours were pink and blue so the ht leader wore pink and his partner blue. during the pre war years other variations were R,W,B,Y.....B,Y,R,W.. R,Y,B,W....W,Y,R,B....W,R,B,Y...depending on which track. R,B,W,Y was not adopted as standard until 1939 Black covers and orange covers were also seen in the early years. the yellow and black cover appeared after the war,.... although it was used in 1932 at Wembly and West Ham." "Speedway researcher” Vol 10. No 1 2007
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Right ......A Louis Lawson married Hilda Smith at Southwell Notts in 1946.... in the 1950s-60s there was a haulage contractor Louis Lawson of Gunthorpe Notts. The plot thickens.. if his name really is Louis Lawson, where did and why did this story of His 'real name' start The name on his headstone should be proof! Edit....The Lawson Story by Phillip Dalling VSM mag.Vol 13. No 4. 2006 No mention of another name .. wife Hilda mentioned .. and living in Gunthorpe .......
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I have also read the story, that his name was not Louis Lawson.... But as far as i can remember his surname was 'Brown' ? er maybe
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Might be wrong here but didnt he have a little problem with Ove Fundin at Norwich which got him the sack? or have I got the wrong man?
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Didn't Ron have a couple of rides with West Ham? .... he certainly had a few second half rides there before finally packing it in ......
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Did anyone see the TV prog 'Britain's Best Drives' with Richard Wilson. (thurs 26th) former Edinbough rider (1960s) Jimmy Tannock was in it and they showed pics of Jimmy in Ashfield Giants colours, unfortunately never mentioning the word speedway or explaining what the photos were of, shame.
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The Silver Sash and the like were first ridden for in 1928, but for this thread we should say it started in the provincial league 1960. It was held on the holders own track or away track at the next official fixture.? The first race was at Rayleigh April the 29th Reg Reeves beating Johnny Hole of Bristol... there were 14 races that year.. the sash ending up with Trevor Redmond when he beat Harry Bastable at Cradley Heath in September. other holders that year .. J.Hole, Reg fearman, Ross Gilbertson, Doug Templeton, Tony Robinson, Jack kitchen, and Harry Bastable Regards .....Anorak
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In my opinion ..........Its Roger Frogley
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Based on the retail price index £24 would = £720 today ... based on avarage earnings £2,300.. its is very complicated working out money values.. and there is no right or wrong way.. and there are more ways than the 2 mentioned
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"The Speedway researcher" is published 4 times a year , back issues are available From...................... Graham Fraser. 7B Bruce Street Stirling Scotland FK8 1PD Check out The Speedway Researcher Web Site http://www.speedwayresearcher.org.uk/
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The Zamalek Speedway, Cairo 1928-29 See story in The "Speedway Researcher" Vol 11 No.1 June 2008. "Speedway Panorama" by Ron Hoare also has a Zamalek story. The 'Gus Kuhn' web site, will I believe soon be hosting a story about Zamalek The Egyptian owner of the Zamalek Dog track had business interests in London, hence the connection with English dirt track representatives. At least 10 meetings were run. There is a surviving Programme Riders included Ivor Creek, Billy Galloway, Les Blakebrough, Tommy Croombs, Colin Ford. Crowds were small until betting was introduced but the locals soon realised the races were fixed and the crowds quickly disappeared . 1945. Many army tracks sprang up in the aftermath of the second world war, all over Europe and Egypt. This was not serious professional speedway. Only a few riders returned to England to take up the sport seriously and successfully. Most of the bikes on these army tracks were stripped down dispatch riders bikes... BSAs, Triumphs etc.
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It was asummed he died in 1952 and one or to websites etc report his death as 1952. but no reports of his demise have been found for 1952. The fact he died a year later 1953 goes someway to explaining the lack of reports in the press. this error of his date of death seems to have caused the confusion . Edit ...but according to the International speedway website http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/intspeedway/engcvswe.htm the match took place 21st July 1952 Goran scored 2 points.. but apparently his death was exactly 12 months later 21-07-1953... bit of a coincidence... can this date be right ?
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A thank you to all you gentlemen for your help... It does seem the explanation is an error in dates.