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Because Greg is currently in the wrong it doesn't mean Nicki didn't get what was coming to him. Two very different issues!

Yea good point well made, it's the main talking point of the moment.

Is Greg really that bad of a guy? I'm not that big a fan of his but people are really steaming into him these days!

Fair enough, he coulda been probed on those points yes!

I never read that the bike was checked. In the Star Holder said "The took the cover off Gregs bike, hit clutch arm came off and the clutch was burnt out"

It headlines there was controversy then gives the opinions of those involved. What more were they supposed to do? Can't just accuse people because that would satisfy some people.

Phil any news on if G Laguta was ever taken into consideration or if he'll do the qualifiers next year?

What more should they have written? Not being facetious, genuine question.

Gave both sides of the story. How terrible of them.

I genuinely feel if there was another GP at the Etihad within the next month they would get close to 30k after that racing and of course an Aussie winner. Whether or not it will carry on to 1 years time we shall have to wait and see. Atmosphere was pretty good too. Put it this way there was as much noise when the Aussies did well as there was in Warsaw when the poles did well and it was half the crowd..

Anyway it was a cracking GP...

In all honesty I just want to see the best 15 riders and I think we're as near dam it as we've ever been.

Amen to that brother Id put money on a Red Bull rider winning next year too!

No not at all. He should be punished for what he supposedly did. But to take away a championship from a guy who scored the most points fair and square would make a mockery of the sport in my opinion. I respect yours is different I just happen not to agree. I think excluding him from that race and making a statement that they are keeping a watchful eye on 'team' riding was a sensible thing to do and I'm happy that has bee brought to the attention of everyone. Anything more would just open up too many cans of worms.

I just cant agree with sticking to a law that is that stupid sorry bud!

I think next year there is the best chance of a non Monster rider winning. The 3 Red Bull boys for a start will be in the mix, hopefully Doyle will be back to this years form, Dudek, the 2 Danes back to form. I for one cannot wait!

Ignoring/interpreting I'm just agreeing that whatever way you look at it, they aren't going to change. And lets face it if they did stick to the letter of the law and strip Hancock of the title that would be insanity.

That is some line up next year. Bring it on!!!

I think he's trying to say that FIM have made a decision, used their own interpretation and that is that so it's irrelevant now what they SHOULD have done. Not to say you are wrong, BUT Like a refs decision in footy, they aint going to change their mind.

Or you could just disagree with everything Phil says because it isnt what you want to hear..

Its fair to say not many other riders have complained about Gregs actions..

All Holder did was rode his nuts off and was a joy to watch. And it isnt easy for me to praise any Aussie sporting success!

Think there's just different interpretations here Bwitch, in fairness all he tried to do was explain how he sees the situation as a whole..

I think that is a very fair assessment Phil. And personally I would say the damage to his reputation and legacy will be a bigger punishment than any fine the FIM throw at him. Only reason he hasn't appealed is because it doesnt effect his world title. otherwise he would and there is simply no way of proving beyond doubt that he let Holder pass - even tho we would all bet our houses on it... It's too much of a grey area here. As I previously said this isnt the first time it happened and wasnt even the last time it happened that night...

In some ways I'm glad the ref did what he did however it did open a big can of worms. We can all complain and moan till the cows come home, but this simple fact is this is nothing new. Doesnt make it right but that is the fact of the matter. What I would say for the Anti Monster brigade on here, I didnt see any foul play when it looked like Doyle was on course to win.