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Four riders scored 56 points out of the 84 on offer and were all involved in a last heat decider. The result of that was Piotr Protasiewicz and Patryk Dudek grabbing a 5-1 for the away team over the home riders Joonas Kylmaekorpi and Tobias Kroner. Brokstedt 40 Wolfslake 44.

As EXPECTED it's been a great night's racing, congrats to all involved in making the Scunthorpe track what it is.

Guess the referee was glad he had a coin to toss lol.

Best Worky can get here is a draw????

Anyways meanwhile Scunthorpe and Workington doing the sport proud.

Latest updated news is that there is apparently more than a fair chance that Artem Laguta will replace Emil Sayfutdinov Was planning to watch both and hoping that they wouldn't overlap that much.

Noooo NIge triggering the Premier v Elite debate and it's been so restrained on here so far

Similar to Somerset it's all credit to see that in a non-boom monetary period a track and nice little stadium popping up. Sky cameras, a crowd! from out of nowhere.

Thought Bates about to become a cropper then the cameras pulled away to another angle just as he was zooming up

Agree. It's a bit like when people say they don't watch a particular tv channel (even when the UK only had 4!). If it's speedway i don't care what league label is attached to it.

That could likely be including the pre-race show?, not sure. I don't speak Polish but If there should be a stream i'll certainly check at that time too just in case. There is apparently more than a fair chance that Artem Laguta will replace Emil Sayfutdinov. Quite an international day tomorrow. In addition to the Poland v Russia fixture there is World Cup Qualifying Round Latvia-Germany-Slovenia-Ukraine European Championship Semi-final Danish League (at least we'll see that online) plus Elite in UK and a German Bundesliga match.

Are you sure about the start time? Sportowefakty has the following at around 11am today.... On the day of the competition for speedway fans await additional attractions prepared by the organizers - these are kept to the very end in mystery. It is certain that at 14.00, the meeting will be available to fans before the main grandstand stadium Ostrowski. It will be an opportunity to get autographs and souvenir photo with knights black sport. For the first time Ostrow Monster Energy team will visit, known for its Grand Prix and Speedway World Cup. There will be the opportunity competitions and surprises for the fans. Poland: Tomasz Gollob Jaroslaw Hampel Michael Szczepaniak Arthur Czaja Piotr Pawlicki jr. Lukasz Owl Russia: Emil Sajfutdinow Grigory Laguta Roman Povazhny Vladimir Borodulin Ilja Czałow Vitaly Belousov Beginning of the meeting: h. 16:00 Allowing for time zone differences that would mean the racing starts at 3pm UK time. However, if there is no streaming available it's a moot point as i don't care when it starts lol.

Without a shadow of a doubt Sportoefakty is the best speedway site in history. Thankfully to Google Chrome one can save it as an automatically translated site. It puts every speedway site in the world to shame regarding the vast amount of news and coverage of meetings around the globe.

Aha! ok I didn't know that as being a Manc I allergic to approaching within several miles. Hee Hee

When can we expect any form of official press release? Going by the recent posts above it's sounding as if it could potentially be a very good Grand Prix.

Across the world this exact situation exists where speedway is quieter than some other local source of noise. Is every council in the world thick or corrupt? Thanks for that info i was just about to ask someone to confirm that Ellesmere Port was hardly ever a hotbed of support despite the city of Liverpool being nearby.

Heyyy that was the abridged version hee hee.. Ok i admit i excelled myself there lol. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. I couldn't imagine the sport of speedway without the Speedway Star no more than i could imagine a world without meeeeeee lol. 100% agree every single line of that post and second it heartily.

Brits loss.....ok i suppose to an extent SEC loss too. I'll still be avidly watching the meetings.

As far as i'm concerned absolutely no problem all is STILL good. I've always had a lot of time for 'racers and royals'. He's a consistently SANE and valuable contributor to these forums, particularly our beloved international section. *(OMG how rare is that on here sane and valuable lol) I swear i didn't set out to criticize anything, i was stunned at the reaction from R&R it totally sideswiped me lol. No probs with his animated reply i chuckled heartily. I don't know why the MiniMax racecards are such a thorn in people's sides, i quickly churn them out on a SGP weekend and that's it they never cross my mind, (my) life goes on. If he's peeved i was unaware he had, in separate threads, covered aspects of the upcoming Polish season that's because i only visited the BSF less than a handful off times in the off-season. And as i said i searched for a summary of the upcoming season, anyways, hopefully tiff is over lol.

Lol lol lol. Noooo PLEASE don't ban him hee hee hee, He's usually informative, and normally has excellent constructive views. Unfortunately, it appears from the outburst above he's one of the ones on here inflicted with a MiniMax racecard obsession or complex. Ok no problem racers and royals i'm very happy with my reply above and clearly you are very happy with yours. It certainly gave me a chuckle. It gives away a lot of underlying currents that are harboured by cliques on here, i guess some take longer to crack to the surface lol lol. I guess we are just different in that if someone had made a reply pointing out errors, facts, corrections, valid rebuttments etc, i would just hold my hands up and say thanks for making me aware of certain matters, and/or i would change my opinion on a topic. I'd certainly make sure i addressed the matters. But clearly it has a quite volatile and violent effect on yourself. Gee racers and royals what a start to the day lol, i never set out to criticize or say anything negative, it was merely a request for information! In fact the last response to you yesterday was a thank you for information or a link. Dear oh dear one does get to belly laugh at times on here. All cool as far as i'm concerned, no sweat, no harm, what is it...oh yeah life goes on.

The Pearson and Tatum thing has been done a thousand times over, alas, their belated appearance at the front end of Eurosport's coverage makes them a valid aspect of this topic. I'll, unusually for me lol, try and make my contribution on them short as i'm able too Ok i am no fan at all of Nigel Pearson and Kelvin Tatum's hysterics, they simply are not to my taste. However, i do appreciate that they get up of their posteriors every day to go out to work and have progressed in their chosen profession to a great degree. I hold no 'personal' dislike of them or out to criticize them at every opportunity as many people on here are, i don't like to see people being bullied or hounded in any walk of life. Anyways, good for them that the nature of their job benefits them with travelling around the world and partaking of nice hotels and night life etc. So they will hardly lose any sleep to unconstructive criticizm or insults on a forum during their eight months of globetrotting. Regarding Nigel Pearson, my biggest criticism is that on occasions he engages in behaviour that is in reality damaging to the sport! Ok, not anything to be hung, drawn and quartered for but when he is waxing lyrical about a race that is NOT, i repeat NOT, remotely an exciting one then the 'non-speedway casual viewer/potential new visitor to a track' thinks that if this is 'a fantastic speedway race' and the height of what the sport has to offer well i'll look elsewhere to spend my money to get thrills. Both of them are often waiting on edge to apply one of their stock phrases which then results in them doing so in total contrast to the eveidence before our eyes on the screen. The comments above were well matched to some of the the action we had at the SGP, but oucheeee if they apply even one of those phrases during a race that simply just isn't 'all that'. It DOES have a damaging effect on the sport for the reason i mentioned above. Uh Oh an instant alarm bells triggers when someone says they have met or spent a little time with somone (relatively) 'famous'. It usually heavily colours and clouds judgement and sways opinions in people without any valid justification. You see it all the time when a member of the public happens to bump into or....oh my God the sheer honour of it....gets spoken to by a celebrity. Now that famous person in reality might be quite a nasty person behind closed doors or as is proven more and more on a daily basis these days a criminal pervert. However, just because they have got to speak to someone of the telly they'll always trump up with "Oh actually i've met them and their not really like that, they're a really nice person", they'll do this despite a mountain of proof elsewhere of their indescretions and behaviour. Lol, oooops! guess who's waffling away and should also hastily point out that i'm not suggesting or expecting either Nige or Kelvin to anyday soon be uncloaked as Beelzebub, yep meeeee. Ok the point i'm finally getting to is that there are many competent and superior sports commentators out there who ALSO put in the work and skills that you witnessed yesterday, so that shouldn't count as a factor for keeping them if they end up creating a large number of people who are put off watching the programme. I too thought that they had initially toned down, even on their Sky coverage too, but i now fear the worst. The other day on Sky we had the excruciating ever increasing vicious circle of when one of them raises and heightens their voice the other follows suit. Within seconds it's all rising high-pitched screaming with the speed of a tornado lol. How it really jars is, as often happens, once they've triggered this frenzy they are totally oblivious and blind to a change of events on the track. They are often guilty of.....ok i stop right now....that's enough i'm not going to list a whole load of examples lol. I do feel if they are encouraged to go down the screamy shouting path instead of being reigned in they will turn out to be detrimental to Eurosport's coverage by puttng people off watching. Whilst the vast majority of speedway fans like me will accept anyone commentating as we are so thankful to get to watch our exciting sport, floating sports viewers flicking through the channels may speedily pass by. I was very impressed by their early season performances, which now looks like it could be a false dawn/hope. Aside from the missing out on one of the semi-final draws and the final draw, which hopefully won't happen again, Eurosport did the sport and themselves proud. It was great to read in the Speedway Star that some of their executives were in attendance and were rightly thrilled. Please everyone who enjoyed the coverage let them know. I'm certainly grateful and enjoyed it all immensely. Only possible massive downer, although i've not checked back since to see if it has changed, after the meeting and also at some point the next day i went to the homepage of Eurosport UK, ouch.....i don't think i've ever seen a page with so many links to stories and reports of events, scroll after scroll but.....where was the MENTION of the GP? I went back a few days later and all that i could find was a couple of bare paragraphs in the meeting's report page. I know they now have a speedway tab but after the superb entertainment that the sport provided for Eurosport i would have expected it to have been profiled right at the top of the page. Also, i'd have expected to see considerable mentions or articles on what a great night it was. Come on Eurosport don't be like Sky and let's fully appreciate the Jewel In The Crown the SGP is. Sky had the same old, same old ball sports on all their channels whilst Eurosport was hot and rocking!

Ok not sure if you woke up all grouchy or not lol, but before you insist on suggestions in a way that comes across you are implying this poster is at fault?, i suggest you make sure that your suggestions don't lead to a dead end. Before starting the thread i looked to ensure one wasn't already live, I had already cycled back the International forum section pages as far back as the forum would allow with no joy i think it took me to the start of the season. One would have expected such a thread to be near the top as currently live or to be a sticky. I then used the forums search facility with the phrase "Polish 2013 Season". None of the topic titles, most by your good self, led me to believe they consisted of a summary 2013 season thread similar to Ghostwalkers. Those that did refer to the Polish 2013 season were of different specific subjects and started a long time ago including October 2012 and June 2012!. A bit like if Ghostwalkers page one was to be divided into individual threads instead of paragraphs and posts. Hmmm! the 2013 racecards have been forced into an individual thread maybe 'racers and royals'' different aspects of the 2013 Polish season should be too then! lol. Wow i remember a certain clique on here when i (for valid reasons) started a World Cup Racecard thread a couple of days early went ballistic lol lol. Gee Whizz June 2012 and October 2012 for a season starting April 2013! Search results, none of which lead me to believe any of the threads merit opening as likely to be a compact season source of basic and vital information for the 2013 season just starting were: New Polish extraleague tv contract signed (racers and royals jan 2013) Polish Liga 1 * Liga 2 fixtures for 2013 (uk martin dec 2012) Polish tv coverage in 2013 (uk martin dec 2012) Polish extraleague 2013 confirmed signings (racers and royals oct 2012) Polish league plan for 2013 (racers and royals june 2012) (Hmm surely some racecard type thread collation needed up there? lol) How am i in the wrong then? Apart from i obviously couldn't have seen your subsequent edit at the time i posted, do you really think that when you say: "Plus there is a thread started by myself in October 12 covering the Polish 2013 season which ran to 6 pages title is "Polish Extraleague 2013confirmed signings "maybe you can find it !!!!" So a suggestion from me, tone down the number of exclamation marks as i DID find it and then quite correctly dismissed it being worth looking into as not being a single page summary of the 2013 season or an ongoing thread for the 2013 season. It merely implies it is a thread on a single specific aspect of a season some 6 months away. A thread titled "Polish extraleague 2013 confirmed signings" coming up in a search would NOT make one delve into it expecting it to be a thread covering VARIOUS IMPORTANT ASPECTS AND INFORMATION ON THE 2013 SEASON AS A WHOLE, SIMILAR TO GHOSTWALKER'S 'SWEDISH 2013 SEASON' OR MY SEARCH/REQUEST FOR A THREAD CONCERNING THE 'POLISH 2013 SEASON' Do you still perceive me to be in the wrong? Is one really expected to go back month over month and collate multiple threads when the various subjects could be put on to a more recently dated page (current season/same year! etc.). Don't get me wrong i prefer threads to be topic/event/week specific, it's very overusing forum bandwidth for everyone to keep ploughing back through dozens upon dozens of pages every time one wants to find a reference to a particular matter or piece of information. Do you still perceive me to be in the wrong? Lol Oh My GOD what?????? (yep 6 question marks to match your 6 exclamation marks). Ummmmm! dontcha think you should cast your eyes to the top of the page and then you may get a surprise that i am posting in the International pages. I'll reiterate again as i've mentioned elsewhere in the INTERNATIONAL section and on the rare Polish thread i get to post in (including a post that you replied to yesterday!), that whilst an avid follower of all things concerning International speedway, sadly, Polish speedway i don't get to follow at all - despite likely being the best of the lot. So yep i will CONTINUE to follow and concentrate on the international pages, albeit not so much on the Polish scene, which led me to starting this thread. OK, Do you still perceive me to be in the wrong?. I mean you know i can't get on with my life if i think racers and royals thinks i have done something wrong hee hee. Anyways, genuine thanks for all input and information you have supplied on the 2013 Polish season, much appreciated.

Lol lol re the singing motive. I wouldn't seek it out at all if it didn't include speedway in it, but i may try and catch it or set it to record it from my computer screen. I just clicked on an old link on my computer and cool it still connects to a live NDR stream. There may be others but that one is working for me. It will all depend on if the streaming service is live 24 hours. Most tv channel online streamers tend only to go off air when live sports rights issues are involved, so it should be good to go. http://www.ndr.de/fernsehen/livestream223.html William Hill and other online bookmakers provide 24 hour 'Virtual Speedway' with a race every ten minutes or so - nooooo i don't bet on them lol. The rider names are often quite funny, some of them a play on real riders. The race 'commentators' are slightly animated at times, way less than Pearson and Tatum you'll be glad to hear, and the size of the crowds are very good too! I think promoters shoud ask them how they manage to achieve such good attendance figures. Uh Oh maybe it's because you can bet on the races eeeek!

I've already found a source when i went looking after posting this thread. In the initial post i was just mentioning as to what triggered me to look for a Polish 2013 Season thread " Only reason this came to mind is that i'm hoping to have a rare chance to watch some Extraliga and was looking for their race format." I was surprised to see that one did not exist. The thread was a question/appeal for a knowledgable forumite to do a Ghostwalker for the Polish leagues, and not an appeal for the race format alone Oh well maybe next year, fingers crossed.

Any chance one of our Polish fans could take the time and effort to set up a page similar to Ghostwalker's superb page one in his 'Swedish 2013 Season' thread? I see that the Polish league has it's WEEKLY thread the same as does the Swedish league, but it would have been great to have even just one initial page similar to Ghostwalker's Swedish version. Only reason this came to mind is that i'm hoping to have a rare chance to watch some Extraliga and was looking for their race format.