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If one keeps ones faith in the Bible (Speedway Star) Revelation has today arrived as in their season preview issue it refers to the trio as............ 24.04.10 Leszno~~~~EUROPEAN 19.06.10 Torun~~~~~TORUN 09.10.10 Bydgoszcz~~POLISH What a cop out! 'Second Of Three Polish GP's This Year Which Will Next Year Be The Third Of Four Polish GP's' was by far the most accurate description. I am very surprised indeed not to see that being the moniker. UPDATE Nooooooo! everything as clear as mud again. I just noticed on page 2 of the magazine it refers to 'Tickets for one of the most eagerly awaited Grand Prixs of the season will go on sale next month. The Grand Prix of Poland' LOL! MANIACAL LOL!

Wow! fantastic news for you all, nice to hear.

Just read that, oh well! best wishes for the competition anyway.

It's great to see Germany taking steps to have a proper league competition. However, i'm very puzzled as to the very odd looking set of fixtures and as to how they are chosen. There are 6 teams, yet not only do they not meet each other home and away (as in the most accepted sense of sports leagues across the planet) but they don't meet all of the teams! How are the fixtures drawn up? do they change each year regarding match-ups?

I did have a right old Google myself, unfortunately to no avail, before suggesting the email route.

??? Nope! Bear in mind i'm in the UK and posting in a UK based forum and you quote, i presume, the German/European schedule. I can assure you in my tv listings magazine it states for today (23rd February 2010) FIM Ice Speedway The World Finals from Togliatti, Russia and from Saransk, Russia. Programmes scheduled twice this evening. If you check the Wikipedia link these were the first two rounds of the 9 round series(originally 10). Footnote: It was replaced by Dubai 24 Hours (some sort of car race methinks). I'll try contact them to see what plans are still intact for coverage of the Ice Speedway.

Quickest way to find out is likely to contact Eurosport Asia-Pacific by email/phone/forum and ask them. Unless a member of their programming staff is a forum member on here and can tell you Is a great shame that the highlights are shown with such a delay.

Motors TV has two world finals programmes scheduled for 6pm and 10:20 pm tonight. Mind you just been to the website to check listings and it's not showing there, nor on the Sky epg. As with anything to do with speedway generally, 'Wikipedia' has good details of the series Wikipedia World Ice Speedway Championships 2010

Hmmmm! might be on the edge of a breakthrough here......Errrm Ferndown....we know it isn't the European or Polish GP so.....which GP at Torun do you refer to (not allowed to Say Torun GP until BSI declare it so)? I'm tempted to buy a ticket just to see what it has on it.

Thanks for that link, i look forward to it hugely. Can you just clarify two things, you do mean Saturday night/Sunday morning? as in literally 02:00 on Sunday the 14th. Secondly when you say american style speedway, we are talking speedway as such, by that i mean the same as runs at established tracks like Costa Mesa, and you don't mean short track racing. UPDATE Just visited link and see that it's 6pm PST on the 13th which is indeed 2am on the 14th over here. See i always knew learning maths at school would one day eventually bear fruit. Hope you get a good crowd.

Nope! Current status of the three polish gp's are; 24.04.10 Leszno~~~~EUROPEAN 19.06.10 Torun~~~~~???????? 09.10.10 Bydgoszcz~~POLISH Latest betting has out in front now a clear favourite of 'Too Naff To Be Named GP'. Others in the betting 'Middle Polish GP' and the lengthy but accurate 'Second Of Three Polish GP's This Year Which Will Next Year Be The Third Of Four Polish GP's' Got to admit, i am tempted now to email them and ask lol.

I agree totally with you in that the race format should include a pair from each team. Unfortunately, i think the test match idea is a no go with some teams not able to provide the 7 or 8 riders needed. However, there are formulas available for othen than pairs meetings to provide the necessary solution. I disagree with the moving from country to country not being coherent. The fact that speedway is not as huge as football gives weight to the need for rounds being staged only where there is a host nation involved. As mentioned earlier, even football often has sparse crowds when no local interest is involved.

Why do speedway supporters always presume that other sports have things right and we should slavishly follow suit? There are some aspects of speedway that are excellent. Can anyone really say that football's world cup being staged only once every four years is anything other than ludicrous. Teams rise and fall within such a long period. Speedway, in keeping with the vast majority of sports, gets a true current world champion annually, both individual and team. Whilst it may not be on the scale of football's world cup for revenue, sponsorship, tv viewing or attendances (well hell! absolutely nothing else is either), it attracts it's media coverage and brings in money annually, which can only be a good thing. One bad game in the qualification for a football world cup, if you hadn't qualified for the previous one, means EIGHT years without participation! Plus, football, the global game ingrained upon people with mass saturation coverage from every form of media, plays to deserted stadiums when teams play in neutral stadiums. Even tournaments like the African Nations Cup have deserted stadiums when a host nation isn't playing. Speedway also offers something nearly unique in that it is, on the whole, a team sport, which brings with it all the fun and fervour of being able to follow your (often local) team and also be able to hold a competition to determine the top individual of the sport. How great would it be if football, and other ball sports, were able to hold a contest to find out who is the best footballer in the world. The football world champion, now that would be good to know. Unfortunately, unlike speedway, there is no way to prove the best footballer in the world. Even if you had gimmicks like 'target' practice and passing challenges, it has no base in the actual flowing game of the sport. WHilst speedway riders get on a bike and race four laps for their team, and do exactly the same in the individual championship.

Not been on this forum for a couple of months and been too busy to keep up with speedway news in the off season. Can't believe one thing hasn't changed yet and i've looked all over the official site, namely, what are the titles of two of the three polish staged GP's? The first at Leszno is nominated 'European' which leaves two more at Torun and Bydgoszcz. One will be the Polish so can anybody enlighten me as to the third? Maybe it's to be the 'Not another polish gp' GP

Was going to make a joke about hoping it doesn't snow in Bydgoszcz on Saturday but the current forecast does indeed mention 'chance' of snow!. One of the many World Cup football matches i was flicking through last night was Poland versus Slovakia and i was surprised to see it snowing to a fair old degree. The weather station source BYDGOSZCZ WEATHER STATIONS is usually pretty accurate, but don't worry too much as there are still a couple of days to go so it can change. Having said that last night it didn't mention snow. All of which brings me to a serious question, has there ever been a GP staged in the snow? I don't mean a dusting but a reasonable amount.

OK i'll deal with your intelligently composed and brilliant example of constructive criticsm on a point by point basis. Firstly, let's move onto point number one....oops! there isn't one. I would forgive you this as a one-off lapse however a forum search of your most recent posts only produce similar levels of debating skills such as; "Have you been drinking?" "Christ, i can't wait til Weds night! " "LOL. Pathetic." "waaahhhhh. Oh diddums." "The way some of you go on! What a bunch of big girls blouses." "If Poole sold Holder i would possibly beat Matt Ford to a pulp." "Its abolsoltuely p*ssing it down in Oakdale, 20 mins from the stadium. Dont think it will be on." "Good to see the fat Bjarne booer getting a telling off though." "The rest of you are pathetic. The Speedway equivalent of ABU's (anything but United)." So in retrospect, i'll likely ignore or probably block all your postings.

Polish GP 1 Polish GP 2 Polish GP 3 lol

I guess the way to let lie easy what would seem to be a commercially necessary evil is to view the series as including the best 8 riders in the world at a minimum. All other entrants being potential challengers who get there by various means including the aforementioned commercial necessity.

Good stuff i can log out now lol.

Try again now that the meeting has started, it's exceptional quality. Fingers well and truly crossed for you.

Many thanks. I didn't have time to go Googling to find the result when i posted yesterday. As i was making a post elsewhere on the forum it seemed the quickest way at the time. Plus, these threads normally carry some comments/details on the result.

Sorry that was badly worded. I hope he does participate in the series. I meant i hope he isn't one of those sportsmen/women who desert their country of birth in the arena of sport for purely mercenary means.

Totally missed this meeting didn't get back in time. Please someone post the result! At least i'll know then why a last heat 5-1 might be crucial. Was it a 4 point win?

You missed a question out...what is the meaning of life Mind you, i'm sure Iris is capable of answering that as well, seeing as Iris is usually an excellent source for all kinds of info. I'm very impresssed at the answers given.

I think with the hovering danger of injury the organizers can't risk the major speedway nations only having one representative in the series. I'm presuming that the british duo are likely to be Tai Woffinden and Chris Harris - there are arguments for and against his inclusion compared to other possible british nominees. Imagine if the only british rider got injured before Cardiff!. Surely that's too high a risk too take. Not sure how British Tai Woffinden is?. I'm sincerely hoping he doesn't qualify for that unsavoury blend of sportsman that deserts his country of birth in the arena of sport for purely mercenary means. I hope somebody will inform me that Tai grew up here in his childhood etc. I know he was born in Scunthorpe, but for example, are his parents of english birth?. If so fair enough and it's just a case of his family emigrating to Australia whilst he was a child? Thing that led me to thinking he was in reality Australian are his accent and the fact he was in the Australian pits (and wearing their colours) during the World Team Cup final. I notice the following on his website profile....Home: Perth, Australia....Favorourite Place: Mullalo Point Beach, Australia (geez! has this man never been to Skegness lol)....Favourite Music: Aussie Hip Hop....Favourite Sport: Australian Rules Football. Speedway's most current shocking example of disloyalty being the farcical example of Rune Holta. Holta's case being on the lines of so many US tennis stars who were born and spent their formative years in eastern europe only to bedeck themselves in the flag of convinience that is USA. It's too be hoped for Rune's sake Norway don't overnight become a good speedway nation and he misses out on representing them. Look at the recent historical examples in football where scores of footballers over the years negated their african heritage and played low grade national matches for France etc only to see their birth nations then qualify for the word cup as african football improved beyond recognition. Didn't initially notice that Poland only have Tomasz Gollob and Jarek Hampel, however, that does fulfill the commercial safety net for the nation.