BOBBATH

Without being negative-the ones who in all honesty were extremely lucky to get to the old one off World Final would have to be Bryan Elliott, Howard Cole and Rick France, also maybe Ron Mountford.

I am thinking of the sixties here- I would start this thread off with Stan Stevens , Mike Watkin and Dick Bradley-what say other forumlanders..

Does anyone remember the circumstances of his passing?? And the reason??

In the Colin Gooddy (RIP) thread, the name of Les was mentioned. This got me thinking about "Muscles"- I remember him riding in early sixties NL for Coventry. A tough customer indeed. I recall he suffered serious head injuries from an on track accident-anyone recall where or when. He was never the same afterwards. I think he died after walking on some train tracks -an accident or suicide.!!

That's right mate indeed I recall him as you do, as "old school", from speedways greatest days.

Before I forget Colin was a great mate of Ken Vale-Ken was a totally different personality to Joe but they really got along. I recall Ken riding for L.E. in 1963 and he was well into his forties then-passed away at age 88, loved Workington Comets and they loved him back. So many wonderful personalities are part of the speedway family

I am extremely sorry to hear this- I recall Joe as one of the G-men(Genz, Gooch, Gooddy, Geran) in the all conquering Oxford team of 1964. He was a star for Exeter in 1965, saw him in the British Final at WH that year, in 1966 I saw him top score for Exeter at Wimbledon-a tough guy who always liked a beer or three-may have been a promoters nightmare!! I don't know why he was called Joe-seemed to suit him. One of the Great Train robbers was called Gooddy-anybody know if he was related to Colin. Anyway Joe RIP and thanks for the memories!! You will be missed.

Just found out that Brian Davies died in 1987 at the young age of 51-anyone know what happened??

I enjoyed the video particularly of the Hackney v. Wimbledon regular speedway meeting-remember well the old Hackney uniform-maybe it was taken in 1965. Nice to see Mrs. Dorothy Charles - Batson who did a lot for Wimbledon speedway there. Also is Brian Davies still with us?

Interesting comments which I have greatly enjoyed reading. For the real old timers (like me and Norbold-he's actually younger than me) does anybody know the closest Tommy Miller came to reaching the WF-he was like a meteor but I think after the merging of NL2 and NL1 he seemed to fade-I think he rode for Coventry last off). Also one poster mentioned Ivor Brown -although one of my heroes-king of the Prov. league -I reckon he had reached his peak before 1965 and if not injured would have anyway had trouble maintaining his average in the first year BL-top man though and the scourge of Ivan Mauger!!!

What was the closest Bob Kilby ever got to a World Final-anyone know?

Before I forget what about Jim Squibb?

Let me start this off: Tommy Miller, Charlie Monk (for sure), Roy Trigg, Norman Hunter, George Hunter would reckon these guys would have graced the World Final more than some of 'em did. What say other forumlanders?

As usual would agree with Norbold, but always thought Gote Nordin never had the killer touch. For example when he rode for Newport in 1966, he would always do great when we were way ahead and bound to win-but if it was a close meeting and we really needed him to come thru' for us he would choke. Any comments??

Split Waterman for sure and what about Brian Crutcher.

Hi Grachan, reckon Mike Broadbanks should be in the Swindon team what about Brian Brett also-retired far too early.

As you know John Mills has sadly passed away after emigrating to Australia-he was in the first meeting I ever saw in 1964-much missed. You should be proud of him!!

Finally got to see it on youtube, as close as I will ever get to New Cross!! Enjoyed it but not enough speedway-thought Bill Fox was crazy to give up his career for a bird-nice to see Thora Hird as Dirk Bogarde's mum, also Bonar Colleano and Bill Owen-worth watching and the speedway stuff brought back great memories-amazing to see full stadiums

Very sorry to hear this Roger, but thank you for posting. Do you know where was Allan residing when he passed-think he lived in London, On. but not sure?

Sadly gustix, I think that Arthur Wright has passed, so of course has Ronnie Moore-any updates to the famous list e.g. Henry Long who is hopefully still around- I know Dick Bradley is and he must now be just behind Split Waterman

From Provincial League days-Ivor Brown and Ivan Mauger

I can never understand why some political party doesn't make an election commitment to eliminate the license fee-despite upsetting the luvvies no end, bet most people would vote for it and they'd be elected. Last time this was suggested I think it was The Monster Raving Loonie Party headed by Screamin' Lord Sutch (R.I.P). Dave Sutch was a great character, I recall him asking the question "Why is there only one Monopolies Commission?"

Typical BBC elitist(Grade et al)-I feel sorry that you Brits are forced to buy TV licenses to support that crap channel. If a political party promised to drop the TV license tax -I reckon they would win in a heartbeat. Recently dropped BBC World News from my TV package here in Canada because it is so clearly left wing biased as to be unbalanced and I refused to buy it.. Only people who would lose out if BBC was voluntarily supported would be all the Oxbridge luvvies who would be unemployed and would finally have to work for a living!!

Gotta say Sid and Steve Roberts that Reg is a gent, an honest businessman and whose handshake was a word of honour that he always lived up to. I think his comments re Simmo and Poole are the god's honest truth. If I had to choose someone to manage my finances honestly and the choice was Simmo or Reg I would pick Reg every time.

For another to take on Malcolm Simmons-read Reg Fearman's great book "Both Sides of the Fence"