IainB

... and then in a stroke of promotional genius... stopped running those Good Friday meeting! Unbelievable Jeff!

I'll have what he's on 🍻

What is Louisvision? Do we know? Is it the forcing a CL club up to the PL vision, the force Peterborough to come back PL if they come back at all vision, the open Northampton and make them run PL vision, the make them run at Oxford vision, the keep the top stars and continue to pay them top dollar with no TV deal vision?

No, BT binned us off at the end of 2019, then Eurosport picked us up for 2020 (didn't start until 2021 thanks to covid) before being absorbed into BT Sport that then became TNT. If and when broadcaster does come knocking at the door, then that is the time to formulate a plan to put a proper proposal together to get money from the broadcaster to attract the top stars back, until such a time the sport in the UK just cannot afford those riders.

Just to pick out the TV deal section of your points... Sky, BT Sport and now TNT Sports have all binned Speedway off in the recent past and that was with the "GP Stars"... they're clearly not interested in Speedway at the moment especially with the rise of women playing men's sport (👈 that's a joke btw 😂)

Don't have a Scooby Doo mate, we all know that rider payments and machinery costs are more closely guarded than state secrets! As the rumour currently stands, a 9 team CL and 5 team PL, there's going to be even less meetings for riders with less team spots taken up by the more established riders meaning less opportunities for the kids further accelerating the decline of the sport.

You say look at the facts and then produce a load of estimates, they are not facts my friend. If you look at my list of rider appearances you'll see that Luke Harrison was top with 48, for the likes of King, Harris & Lawson it was around 44. The only fact is apart from those appearance numbers which are in the public domain everything else is guess work. A 14 team league would have provided 26 league meetings, a cup competition, at least 2 meetings and maybe a 4's or something that brings you to at least 32. A cup run and play off meetings and you could be up to around the 40-44 meetings that they're currently doing. There's no doubt in my mind that some kind of cost cap also needs to be in place as regards what is spent on machinery.

Could be top to the final 2nd v 3rd to the final

Not so sure about that, their statement said the "with Thursday’s (September 25, 7.30pm) home meeting against Ipswich the last top-flight fixture under the promotion" Could that mean the promotion would stay on in CL and/or NDL? If they've been rejected by the CL and there's no buyer... who knows 🤷‍♂️ What an utter shambles to potentially see 2 viable clubs with no worries over their venues not start the 2026 season... absolute madness with the current low level of operating clubs.

Yeah, 2013, just checked... just Speedway Futures and BSPL then

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I didn't say he had, I said that's what you don't do as a business owner... not if you want to realise it's full value. All we know at the moment is that he's "stepped down" from the club, whatever that means? He's perfectly entitled to put his business up for sale, continue running or close it down, that's his decision. But it's not just a business is it, it's a sporting club with a long and rich tradition that many people have a strong emotional attachment to and they've not really had a mention. ... So stick that in your "pipe" and smoke it

There's been better clubs than Ipswich that have failed to sell, what you don't do as a business owner is close that business down to sell it, you sell it as a going concern to realise the full value. Emotions are obviously running high down Suffolk way at the moment and I hope Mr Louis can find a way of collecting his toys up, putting them back in his pram and start acting like a true custodian of a Speedway club with a strong and loyal fan base.

You're in no position to make a "guarantee"... unless you're Guy Nicholls 😜😜😂 I do wish Mr Louis had been a bit more informative in his statement, there's a lot of unanswered questions that fans must be asking.

He said "stepping down from the club" but in what capacity? Many clubs are owned but not run by the owners. Leicester is owned by Cairns but run by Jen Crossland, Stewart Dickson and their team. Poole is owned by Matt Ford but run by Danny.

You'd think that there'd be no better time with the worth of the stock being at an all time low.

The valuation will also be effected by the strength of the sport as a whole and the number of clubs and divisions running in it. Look at the current F1 teams worth billions when just a few years ago they were about as attractive as Speedway clubs.

What Chris has single handedly done at the moment is seemingly closed his own club down, with no "assurance" that they'll be running next season.

Which would be complete madness. If Louis wants out, that's fair enough but he shouldn't take the club down with him.

There's going to be a lot of worried Witches fans in the dark at the moment at what should be a time of celebration for them. As had often been said the club belongs to the fans the owners are just passers through.

Okay, so it seems that this is the overriding topic of the day and not the future of Ipswich Speedway... While Chris Louis is the owner of Ipswich Speedway he is most definitely in a position to make a "guarantee" that should there be no buyer for the club before the start of next season that the club will continue to run until a buyer is found. I would have preferred that he'd have made an assurance to fans in his statement, but as my words have been mis-quoted, I've written it out for you in black and white.

That was in response to somebody else saying "guarantee"... I originally said "assurances" which is different to "guarantees"... but if you think the bigger topic here is what word I used to who instead of the potential loss of a completely viable speedway club... knock yourself out, or maybe set a new topic up so that everybody that cares about the difference between an "assurance" and a "guarantee" can argue the toss out of it to their heart's content 👍🏻

I know your game mate, mis-quote somebody, twist their words and then embark on a pointless, boring, futile argument with them as you have done recently on the Speedway Show topic and have in the past with me... I'm not sure if you do it deliberating sat in your underpants at home... or are just a bit thick 🤔

I never mentioned guarantees