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Back in the day when people were questioning why the Brits were no good on the world stage an argument was that they had it too easy at home, when BL ruled the roost. I think you could probably use the same argument for the Poles, they have it very easy at home with the big pay packets and adulation. I don't think it's any coincidence that the Brits have come on so much now that none of them ride in Britain. It's akin to living at home with your mum doing all you cooking and cleaning and when you get your own place you have to man-up a bit. That's why I think Magic should ditch riding in Poland if he has aspirations of becoming World Champion, he has it far too easy rolling up to Wroclaw every week in his luxury car, going through the motions and leaving with a boot full of Zlotys

Yes somebody will win... and if it's the Poles I'll take my hat off to them as imo it'll be a bigger achievement than winning it on home soil.

Zmarzlik didn't ride in the 2013 final, LOST in Vojens, LOST in Togliatti, LOST at BV I'll grant you about the juniors, but the juniors don't always go on to be world beaters

Year Venue Winners Runner-up 3rd place 2001 Wrocław Australia (68 pts) Poland (65 pts) Sweden (51 pts) 2002 Peterborough Australia (64 pts) Denmark (58 pts) Sweden (54 pts) 2003 Vojens Sweden (62 pts) Australia (57 pts) Denmark (53 pts) 2004 Poole Sweden (49 pts) Great Britain (48 pts) Denmark (32 pts) 2005 Wrocław Poland (62 pts) Sweden (34 pts) Denmark (31 pts) 2006 Reading Denmark (45 pts) Sweden (37 pts) Great Britain (36 pts) 2007 Leszno Poland (55 pts) Denmark (52 pts) Australia (29 pts) 2008 Vojens Denmark (49 pts) Poland (46 pts) Sweden (39 pts) 2009 Leszno Poland (44 pts) Australia (43 pts) Sweden (36 pts) 2010 Vojens Poland (44 pts) Denmark (39 pts) Sweden (35 pts) 2011 Gorzów Wielkopolski Poland (51 pts) Australia (45 pts) Sweden (30 pts) 2012 Målilla Denmark (39 pts) Australia (36 pts) Russia (30 pts) 2013 Prague Poland (41 pts) Denmark (40 pts) Australia (34 pts) 2014 Bydgoszcz Denmark (38 pts) Poland (37 pts) Australia (36 pts) 2015 Vojens Sweden (34 pts) Denmark (32 pts) Poland (27 pts) 2016 Manchester Poland (39 pts) Great Britain (32 pts) Sweden (30 pts) 2017 Leszno Poland (50 pts) Sweden (42 pts) Russia (18 pts) Year Venue Winners Runner-up 3rd place 2018 Wrocław Russia (45 Pts) Great Britain (46 Pts) Poland (36 Pts) 2019 Tolyatti Russia (45 Pts) Poland (47 Pts) Australia (41 Pts) 2020 Lublin Russia (23 pts) Poland (23 pts) Denmark (19 pts) 2021 Belle Vue Great Britain (64 pts) Poland (74 pts) Denmark (68 pts) 3 outside of Poland in 21 years

That's what I thought... but we'll see if we can keep it going

A lot of people seem to have an over inflated opinion of the Poles because in recent times the majority of GP's have been held in their home country.

Oh yes, I agree, Zmarzlik is special, very special... but I didn't really say that. Poland as a Speedway team, never really shown anything outside of Poland... look at the record books

was this worth a whole new topic?

I've said it before and I'll say it again... the Poles ain't all that outside of Poland, history and the record books tells us this

I've seen the lad ride almost as much as Bomber this season... which is no bad thing, he's quite a prospect

Come on our boys! I think with the SoN being staged outside of Poland we actually have the strongest trio on show and should be favourites to retain the trophy. It will be interesting to see how Tragic Janowski manages to blow it this year! Come on our boys!

Yes, you can watch it on delay anytime after it has started

LEICESTER 1. Nick Morris 9.13 2. Connor Mountain 5.43 3. Richie Worrall 8.53 4. Dan Thompson 4.97 5. Kyle Howarth (C) 8.47 6. Max Clegg 4.52 7. Joe Thompson 3.92 Team Manager: Stewart Dickson REDCAR 1. Charles Wright (C) 9.19 2. Jason Edwards 4.28 3. Justin Sedgmen (G) 8.18 4. Kasper Andersen 4.97 5. Lewis Kerr 7.47 6. Kyle Bickley 3.42 7. Jordan Jenkins 3.72 Team manager: Gavin Parr Does Jason Edwards ride for Redcar? I mean is this his actual club?

It'd be like saying most people attending Cardiff this year will be because Max Fricke and Jason Doyle (plus British Championship qualifier) are riding in it.

Often see him walking around the terraces at BP... half expect him to fall over

You say that, but is the lure the team for most of us? I don't know... the biggest attended meetings I've been to have been individual meetings, World Finals, British Finals, BLRC's, WC Qualifiers, Golden Hammer etc. The only team meeting that comes close to some of those attendances in the past (during my time following Speedway) was the Cov v Hull decider double header. The following of a team probably led to the following of a rider for that team, that has completely gone now thanks to doubling up, which if memory serves me was originally brought in to help progress British youngsters.

Chalky White?

I can't quite believe what I've just read there... when somebody does suggest something to try and entice people along to watch Speedway, people like you actually throw every imaginable hurdle in the way as to why not to do it. I suggested that Birmingham should have run some kind of Commonwealth Riders Championship meeting (an absolute no brainer) to cash in on the games being held down the road, with the athletes village on the doorstep and you were quite rude to me about it on the Brummies thread... and you've only been 4 times this season, unbelievable!

Rune Holta desperately searching for his Norwegian passport?

I remember them doing a similar offer during the previous year also when it was called Eurosport Player. So it looks like it maybe a regular offer. If you use something like HotUKDeals you can setup an alert so that if/when it happens again and somebody posts the offer you'll know about it.

I think generally it's £60 a year, though if you get it at the right time of year, I got mine for £30. I think you may be able to get it for around £7 per month

There HAS been some decent Speedway racing tonight, with a close scoreline... I would have hated to have turned off after heat 6

Was it announced back then or when you edited it on July the 11th?

I quite rate Flint, like his attitude and his riding style reminds me of Leigh Adams a bit

Have you seen Swedish or Danish League Speedway? It ain't all that, easily comparable with British Speedway in terms of presentation and quality (of racing) and British Speedway is probably better