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Depends which reports you've read, GB Speedway sponsor the Daily Star led with a Speedway Star Garrity etc. etc. headline

It could be better for the Speedway fan as instead of paying £40 a month for a Sky package, you can get the Eurosport Player for £40 for the year

Again, I'm not an apologist for Garrity but just a point of fact... the victim's ages have not been disclosed, one of the victims is described as "an elderly woman"

Maybe it'll be shown on the Eurosport Player, a subscription streaming service, it's on offer from time to time at a pretty good price too

That may be... But, Sweden managed to run, a truncated, season in front of crowds of 50 people, that wouldn't be anywhere near enough to fund a meeting. I assume that the shortfall was made up by sponsorship and a TV deal. All I was saying is that as the UK couldn't do the same I take it that the Eurosport TV deal with BSPL wasn't as good as that in Sweden

I was there for his first come back... at Long Eaton I assume he's back living in the US then, I always thought he was running a business in Tewksbury

That's fair enough... We can definitely agree on the latter though

Oh, OK, I thought it was both, easier for CL I think

Something that I don't think anybody has mentioned yet is the plan to just run 2021 as if it were 2020 with the same teams etc. I think, while this would be a nice idea, it's only going to take one club to break ranks and the rest will do the same. There are going to be some riders out there, who have had successful seasons in Poland who's stock has risen and I think they'll be looking for better deals. Jaimon Lidsey had a great season in Poland, came of age, finished WU21 champ, I'm not suggesting he'll be holding out for more money... but he bloody well should be as a self employed business man. Also he finished 2019 with a 5.16 average, he must be a 7 to 8 point rider now, can you see other clubs being happy with him starting on a 5.16? Robert Lambert has already indicated he may be giving UK a miss next season, who would he be replaced with? After his successful season in Europe is he better than his final 2019 average of 7.61? To run 2021 as 2020 seems rather simplistic to me and controlling riders demands and decisions is rather like herding cats

From reading the Police statement it doesn't say he brutally attacked anybody, he burgled one person and robbed another at knife point. He's used threatening behaviour yes but he hasn't actually physically attacked anybody in this case (from what I've read). I am in no way defending or condoning his actions, I totally condemn them, just pointing out the known facts.

How much did you donate?

Nss is one of the few tracks that I would pay to watch a streamed meeting from, maybe also Peterborough There must be one in storage somewhere in Bradford that was never used

I take it you're not the "Berwick Speedway" user then?

I don't know who it was but there was a user called "Berwick Speedway" that was up until a point telling viewers on the stream's chat window that things would be up and running soon... only the last we heard from them was at about 19:10. The chat window was still live on the dead link at 19:30 as it was by chance that I saw that other users were saying that a new stream had been created

Do you know why the 1,800 or so fans, many of whom would have made a donation for the stream, were not informed that the meeting had already started and was being shown on a different stream?

Excellent speedway meeting... Didn't need the 5 and 6 man races for me, you don't need the gimmicks when the speedway racing is so good

Steady on old boy! It has been very entertaining though. I can see this streaming being quite lucrative for the Aces not so sure about other clubs

And the camera managed to show them

courtesy of https://wwosbackup.proboards.com/ Looking at previous line-ups for the British U21 Championship how many have gone on to hold down a team spot in the PL? 2012 1..T Perry (Somerset/Dudley)..3,3,2,1,3 = 12 - 2nd2..K Howarth (Workington)..2,2,3,3,1 = 11 - 3rd3..R Branford (Buxton)..0,2,1,2,2 = 74..B Morley (Rye House)..1,1,2,0,M = 45..M Owen (Isle of Wight)..1,1,0,W = 26..K Newman (Somerset)..2,3,3,1,0 = 97..J Haines (Sheffield)..3,1,3,2,2 = 11 - 1st8..A Wrathall (Scunthorpe)..0,0,0,1,0 = 19..S Worrall (Newcastle/Scunthorpe)..2,2,2,2,3 = 1110..A Morris (Dudley)..1,0,1,3,0 = 511..S Nielsen (Mildenhall)..0,3,0,2,3 = 812..R Worrall (Newcastle/Stoke)..3,3,0,3,3 = 1213..J Sarjeant (Rye House)..0,0,0,0,W = 014..J Hart (Scunthorpe)..3,1,3,0,0 = 715..J Garrity (Rye House)..2,0,0,3,2 = 716..J Jacobs (Mildenhall)..1,2,1,1,0 = 5 2009 1..J Auty..(Sheffield)..2,3,1,3,1 = 102..J Haines..(Rye House)..3,2,0,2,3 = 103..J Courtney..(Rye House)..1,1,1,1,2 = 64..B Johnson..(Isle of Wight)..0,2,1,0,1 = 45..K Hughes..(Plymouth)..1,2,2,2,2 = 96..T Woffinden..(Wolverhampton)..2,0,2,3,3 = 107..M Baseby..(Bournemouth)..0,0,2,2,0 = 48..B Barker..(Coventry)..3,3,3,1,3 = 139..L Smart..(Weymouth)..1,1,2,2,2 = 810..R Mear..(Rye House)..2,3,3,3,2 = 1311..L Bridger..(Eastbourne)..3,3,3,3,3 = 1512..B Hopwood..(Isle of Wight)..0,0,1,1,0 = 213..P Starke..(Plymouth)..2,0,0,0,1 = 314..C Wright..(Workington)..1,W = 115..S Lambert..(Scunthorpe)..3,2,3,1,0 = 916..K Newman..(Bournemouth)..0,1,0,0,1 = 2

Leicester had a blank canvas to work with and still managed to build a track as if it were around a football pitch with no football pitch there! It's true that riders can manage to ride it as when Leicester were in the top league the racing was much better than it is in the 2nd tier. Only Scott Nicholls and Chris Harris seem to be able to make passes with any regularity

Oh stop moaning

You forgot to mention that when they did switch streams they couldn't be bothered to tell the 1,800 people that were watching a blank screen that they had done so

Just getting you warmed up for Eurosport. How many have you watched?

Semi and final abandoned because they can't run 2 races in 10 minutes God I've missed British Speedway

It's pretty p155 poor isn't it, thankfully I've not seen most of it due to the abysmal camera work. Glad I only "donated" a fiver... And I still feel short changed!