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I'm not throwing anything at KL fans I'm specifically addressing @Bagpuss and fans like him who clearly bleed green & gold () that at this moment if they don't support their club... not team... there will be no club. I'm currently catching up with last nights meeting, I'm at heat 7, track seems perfectly fine, there's been a couple of good races, the stars are just getting stuffed due to a poor team being put together

I'm specifically addressing those fans that don't attend because their team ain't winning. If every fan took that stance the team finishing bottom of the league every year would close

It's alright to hold this view if you are prepared to kiss goodbye to speedway and not miss it. I would say you shouldn't hold this position if you are planning on attending again once a team starts winning. Speedway changes the rules so often that a club is not in the doldrums for that long and things can change very quickly when the right people are in the right positions on both sides of the fence. You only have to look at clubs that have won things in any league in speedway and then compare that to other sports... the only serial winners in speedway had been Poole

I wonder if this latest crisis is the way the KL promotion are going to announce to the Speedway world that Laguta won't be riding away matches?

What would you spend 22 quid plus petrol on? A winning team and poor racing? A losing team and great racing? You can't just support a team when they're winning and leave everybody else to support them when they're losing to keep that club alive for you to attend when they start winning again... that's just not right for me. As a follower of Leicester & Long Eaton (in the bad old days), I've had my fair share of losing. Normally I'd agree with you but this seems to be pretty existential stuff for Lynn

Just watching last night's BSN show... Looked like Ben Barker was very happy to see Ian Brannan on the track walk... he's going to have somebody's eye out with that thing if he's not careful

Well... looking at the official SCB score card it looks like heat 6 wasn't called an unsatisfactory start as if it was, the rules state: "The Referee will give a warning to any rider deemed to have been the cause of or contributed to the unsatisfactory start. This will be communicated verbally by the Referee to the rider concerned via the start marshal or clerk of course before the race is started." According to the SCB card there were 3 starting offences 2 x Worrall & 1 x NKI. So if it wasn't an unsatisfactory start somebody should have been disqualified for being the primary cause of the stoppage. ... just trying to understand the rules

So if it was an unsatisfactory start, Tarasenko should have been excluded for leaving the track as he returned into the pits, if it wasn't Sedgmen should have gone for being the primary cause of the stoppage

Why don't you want a clock on the centre that everybody can see?

You may make light of it... but it is important and in a way it is part of the biggest weakness with British Speedway and that is integrity. Can you imagine Tennis being played in 2023 without Hawkeye or Cricket without Snicko etc? All very high tech, Speedway? Can't (or won't) afford a bloody clock! When is 2 minutes not 2 minutes? When it's in Speedway. A clock at the start line removes any doubt as to whether a rider is ready to start, whether he's on track, under power, proceeding without stopping etc etc blah blah blah. It's like what is an unsatisfactory start? There should be a line on the track and if an incident happens beyond that line an unsatisfactory start can't be called. These are the lackadaisically written rules that can tie a sport up in knots... look at the mess F1 got itself into last weekend with track limits!

I know what the rules are and I know the difference between SCB and FIM/SGP... I'm saying they should be the same, why aren't they the same? Because not every track will buy a clock? That the Start Marshal can start if the Ref can't? If that's the reason then it's quite frankly ridiculous! Why does British Speedway tie itself up in unnecessary rules that are left open to interpretation? If there had been a clock there last night NKI would have been at the tapes when it counted down to zero... but no, the paying public were deprived of a race containing the oppositions main man on the night because he couldn't see the stop watch on your wrist! Unbelievable!

That does not sound simpler than having a clock on the centre green that everybody can see and when that clock ticks down to zero and a rider is not at the tapes ready to start that rider is excluded, like in the GP's to be honest

The point is, when the ref puts the 2 mins on, he's the only one that can see when the time is up... how does having a stop watch on your wrist help the rider know exactly when the 2 mins are up? Or the crowd for that matter? There's a perfectly simple solution available... but as usual Speedway ties itself up in knots about the minutiae of the current situation instead of putting in place new simple solutions

So that's it then... for all time, for ever! May as well use a bloody egg timer!

it's remote controlled... all it needs is for somebody (start marshal?) to start the countdown when the 2 mins is put on by the ref, this is not rocket science

If only Leicesters budget extended to a clock... https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jhering-Timing-Running-Countdown-Digital/dp/B09LHW5P2R/ref=sr_1_117?crid=1ABHH8MZTQQ1V&keywords=large+timer+for+classroom&qid=1688720484&sprefix=large+timer%2Caps%2C91&sr=8-117

No... do it on the centre green at the end of the night in a Crystal Maze style dome with a giant fan blowing the money around and 7 riders grabbing what they can

also less mistakes made on a smoother track with no bumps and holes

The Leicester track seems have taken quite a step backwards this year in my opinion. It's not been the same since the "improvements" over the close season and more often than not this season I have gone home covered in dust!

Sedgy hit the deck coming out of turn 2 lap one, ran out of space. Tarasenko went back into the pits while Sedgy was receiving attention, the other 2 stayed on the track. Then the ref put all 4 back in. Can you declare an unsatisfactory start when riders are coming out of bend 2?

Either Sedgeman or Tarasenko should have gone surely?

But all 4 back? If it wasn't an unsatisfactory start then doesn't somebody have to be excluded?

Was the ref even watching the first running of heat 6? Sedgeman goes down coming out of bend 2 because he wouldn't shut off... and Tarasenko clearly left the track and went back into the pits... all 4 back? If it was an unsatisfactory start shouldn't Tarasenko have been excluded?

Was queuing up to get in tonight... Not sure what the correct words to use are, so forgive me if they're wrong... 2 mentally retarded men were with their carer and were being refused admission at a reduced rate. The carer was being offered a carers rate but the 2 mentally retarded chaps were being charged full price! If you're physically younger you get reduced admission but not if you're mentally younger? I know it's difficult to prove but it was not a good look at all! I saw them all coming in later on, not sure if they were charged full price or not.

Kemp & Allen?