IainB

I think we can all agree () this scoring system has been a complete joke since day 1, the only positive is that the winner of the GP gets the most points but you could operate any other system and make sure that happened.

I've always thought that riders would find more speed by tidying up their riding style to be more smooth rather than cheating with parts/engines etc. Listening to what DJ Woffy was saying on the podcast about removing lacquer from knee braces etc. Seemed to be taking things to the extreme, you'd save a fraction of a nano second by doing that but pulling a locker or something and you'd easily lose a whole second from your lap time

I'm always dubious about riders deliberately laying their bikes down, especially at league level, I mean who wants to deliberately have a motorcycle accident? I can understand them sometimes not being in a hurry to get up but this is normally for purely selfish reasons of maybe being in a rerun I would suspect.

It would do if the fans weren't left standing around for 20 minutes while the riders put new tyres on for the last 2 races... a fact that is known at the start of the meeting. All riders should have an extra wheel with tyre fitted ready to go, if it's not used, then use it for the next meeting.

That's great! They can now destroy another rider's career like they did with the last William Cairns... Max Perry!

A slightly different topic I know but I think non-enforcement of the actual rules is a bigger problem these days, I by no means see all the speedway that goes on in the UK but from what I have seen, particularly this season, it is worse than ever before and I'm not talking about referee opinion, I mean clear black and white rules that just aren't enforced.

Yes, I meant top 6 in this meeting, you got me all mixed up by bringing the GP's into it. Rules say top 6 qualify: 014.7.2 Race Format The 16 rider, 20 heat format is utilised when the top 2 riders will be seeded direct to Heat 22 and the next 4 riders finishing positions 3rd to 6th, will compete in Heat 21 from which the top 2 will go forward to Heat 22. Masters "finished" 5th Kemp "finished" 7th Masters, unfortunately, "withdrew" from the meeting, he wasn't excluded from the meeting. They're the published regs, like @Gambosaid you must probably have an unpublished supplementary reg that none of us have seen?

I'll take your word for it

Anyway, this wasn't a GP, top 8 qualify, Kemp finished 9th

Never seen that happen in any GP I've watched... and I've watched them all.

I don't think Madsen was even in the GP's when those suspicions were doing the rounds was he? He was clearing up in the Ekstraliga and then finally got into the GP's, he's always been top 7 until this year and he's still 9th at the moment with his "personal" problems

What a brilliant afternoon's Speedway! Competed by riders who actually wanted to be there and won by a rider who it clearly means something to. Pickering has been absolutely immense these last couple of months. The riders that pulled out at the last minute should be ashamed of themselves but they'll still expect us to support their testimonial meetings and buy their books. There must be something going on as it can't be coincidence that they all accept the booking, are advertised as riding and then on the eve of the meeting pull out, leaving the organisers just hours to sort a replacement out, so I presume there's some kind of rule that they must accept and can only pull out at a certain time? I don't know. Refreshing to hear these riders at least called out if not completely named and shamed by Swales and Parr and credit to BSN for not just glossing over it. I really don't want to pee on his parade, but... did Josh Pickering leave the track after the first start of the semi final, it looked for all the world as though he was about to but then the camera cut away from him. Didn't somebody get excluded at Glasgow the other week for doing that?

Surely a reserve should have taken Masters place in the semi... never seen a rider promoted to a final before who hasn't qualified but we seem to do what we want these days

100% a 20 minute delay between the end of heat 20 and the semi final (as usual) as you're building towards the end of a meeting is completely ludicrous!

Surely that would effect his eye lids