Bradford Ace

Am i right in thinking the Leszno v Torun meet is on live 2moro nite?? It does say 16/5/08 on the website but thought that all the meetings were on a sunday over there?? Not complaining as i'm in 2moz so i can tune in if its on but does that mean no sunday meetings?? Just watching a bit of the GP's on dvd from 06 & i'm positive that Wroclaw has been narrowed considerably so can anyone in the know confirm this?? It looks a lot narrower on the 4th bend in particular but on the 1s as well. I know they're doing work on the stadium so is the track being worked on as well?? It always seemed 2 produce good racing b4, like when the World Cup was there, so maybe this might affect it somewhat.

Yeah, a bit 2 easy 4 the Bydgoszcz boys here but still some good close fast racing. Every race i watch featuring Sajfitdinov, i'm willing him 2 miss the start & 2 be honest he usually does!! Reminds me of Mark Loram cos he cant gate & tries every possible line on the track b4 swooping thru!! In one race he was stone last out of the start but the speed he got down the back straight was awesome & he passed both away riders by end of back straight as tho they were stood still!! Wud luv 2 see him race against the big biys cos he seems as fast as Andreas & he's a top 4 or 5 GP rider. Wot price him getting a wildcard 4 the GP there?? Wud certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons having him taking points off every1!!

Totally agree with Sub on this one. I watch Polish League Speedway every week online & see 2-3 meetings each week. The tracks r brilliantly prepared with loads of dirt on 7 loads of good race lines on them & thats when they are prepared for afternoon meetings. What happens 2day?? We get one of the best tracks in the world with the track as slick as a board because that imbecile Olsen is involved. 4 gods sake, we have the best riders in the world here so give them a chance & give them something 2 race on if the miss the start. All he wants 2 see is Pedersen jet from the gate & win at a canter. More entertainment in half a dozen league races in Poland than the 23 there 2nite. Awful decision from the ref 2 cap it all off as well. Crumpy had far more speed & passed him up the inside w/o changing his line. Quite clear on the replay that Nicki looked left & though oh dear i'm out here so i'd better turn left & drop it!! Yes, Crumpy touched him but lets be fair, its a contact sport & there were countless other times when riders touched & clashed but not enough 2 make em fall off. That touch was so light it wouldnt even have knocked my Gran off her zimmerframe!! And wot about the delayed reaction?? Touch, couple of seconds 2 ponder & then drop the bike!! He is fast becoming Speedways answer 2 Didier Drogba!! If i'm correct the WCF is at Vojens this ye isnt it?? No point tuning in2 that then. May as well watch cars driving on the M62 cos thats wot the track will resemble. Olsen is killing the sport & big time. Give these lads something 2 race on & watch the entertainment not this snooze fest.

Can anyone else get this working cos i cant seem 2?? I've managed to log on but then thats as far as it goes. The only screen i can bring up is for football coverage & movies but sadly no Speedway!! Help!!

i also think that big tracks do seem more exciting generally altho not always. Probably cos i was brought up watching Halifax & then Bradford & the 2 main away tracks i went to in those days were Sheffield & the old Belle Vue so they were all pretty huge!! Ya do get some good close racing at the smaller Kirky Lane altho this is sadly lacking at the mo due to the state the track is usually in!! Thought the Gorzow track was small but 329m which it is for Polish standards altho its probably as big as most in the elite League!! Torun is also a similar size altho havent seen a meeting from there yet to compare. The Leszno one looks one of the bigger ones event tho it isnt, which is prob cos its so wide!! Went 2 Wroclaw in 1992 for the world Final & i'm sure it looks a lot narrower now, esp on the 4th corner so not sure if they've brought it in a little since then.

Just watched the Gorzow v Leszno meeting this afternoon & was quite surprised at how small the track is there compared 2 what u expect Polish tracks 2 be like. Having seen most of the Ekstraliga ones now & also quite a few in the 1st Division it looks to be the smallest & tightest circuit i've seen so does anyone have the actual track sizes in metres 2 compare?? Cracking little stadium tho with a lovely stand down the back straight that makes viewing very good i would guess. Not the best ever but pretty decent & good 2 see the master Mr Gollob carrying on from where he left off last week at the GP.

Another cracking meeting there from Bydgoszcz. Saw the scoreline before & it looked a thrashing but the racing was so much better than the score suggested. Watched that meeting followed by the Czestochowa v Torun one & the Bydgoszcz meet produced far closer racing & a lot more passing. Czestochowa looks a cracking stadium & a big wide pacey track but the racing was quite spread out with the home side suffering a lack of riders due to illness & injury. Noticed from Bydgoszcz so far this season tho that there doesnt appear 2 be much of an outside line on the 3rd & 4th bends, is this always the case??. The 1st & 2nd produces good lines round the kerb & the fence but on the 3rd corner the only move looks to be to go out deep & then cut back. Anyone that goes 4 the big blast seems 2 go backwards so is this due to the shape of the track or what?? The visiting riders never seem 2 learn tho & always move out wide 2 be suckerpunched on the inside by the more knowledgable home riders. Presume Simon Stead was just axed from this meeting?? His replacement Heffenbrock did even worse & scored 0 so presume Steady will be back 2moro.

Do me a favour & post on here if ya get it 2 work. Went on last nite & followed the instructions from Ghostwalker ok but the box with the Speedway advert had disappeared so never got chance 2 do it!!

Where is the stadium in relation to the airport & where r the best hotels 2 stay in Bydgoszcz so you're not 2 far from the track?? Thinking of maybe doing a league meeting there at some point but flights home are at 10.30pm on the sunday so would need easy & quick access back 2 the airport after the meeting. Mind u, do the meetings start at 3.30pm?? If so then i suppose there's plenty of time really. Ta

I've been on the canal+ website & it advertises the Dackarna meeting on webtv..when u click on the link it goes 2 a screen that appears to ask for ur email address & pin code but as its all in swedish i dont know how 2 register. Any ideas on this or how 2 purchase the video stream u mentioned earlier??

is there any coverage of the Swedish League via the internet as there is with the Polish Leagues?? Would be great to see this also as the racing from the GP's in Sweden is usually 1st class..

Cheers guys. Good 2 know ur all so knowledgeable cos it cud get complicated 4 some1 like me!! Ha, know it seems quite a good way of doing things & i think English clubs cud learn a lot from Poland in so many ways. I've never understood why the points limit exists cos the champions of the league know that as soon as they've lifted the trophy that at least 1 or 2 r gonna have 2 leave & wont get the chance 2 stay with their team & defend the title. Personally i've always thought that the champions finishing points should be the limit for the yr after so they can keep the same team if they want & allow the others 2 build up 2 that limit 2 try & topple them but this is quite a good system as well. It gives room 4 the youngsters 2 play a part but also with it only being 2 GP boys per team, it means that ya cant go silly & let the rich clubs sign every1 at the top. Basically then, a rider like Sajfutdinov at Bydgoszcz only has one programmed ride in Heat 1 & is then used 2 come in & replaced guys that r struggling. At the mo with Steady in there he's gonna get a lot of rides i fancy!! Think after a couple of reads thru that i'm ust about there. will have 2 come over 4 a league meeting this yr 2 test all this out!!!

Cheers. Is there a minimum number of rides each man must have?? How many points down before u can bring in someone and is this for double points like England?? Presume reserves can replace any of the others at any time?? Whats the riding order also?? Is Heat 15 a nominated one like in England??

As i'm now watching 2-3 Polish meetings per week i thought i'd ask a few questions 2 help bring me more up2 speed with this fantastic standard of racing. The big talking point of this summer in England was the slashing of the points limit for this season. What's the score in Poland, is there a points limit & what is it?? Noted that in the 1st Div that there is 8 riders per team but presume they dont all have 2 ride as Bydgoszcz on sunday at Ostrow only used 7. Is there also a minimum number of rides they must have & do the averages come out once a month for example as surely Emil Sajfutdinov wont be at reserve 4 long as he must be near the top of the averages now?? Simon Stead however cud be a useful rsv if he drops down. Sorry 4 all the questions but as i'm getting in2 it now then i thought i'd double check a few things!! Plenty more 2 follow no doubt as well!

Lawrence, Like all the others on here i'd also just like 2 say a massive thanks for the superb coverage you provide on here..always taken an interest in Polish League but decided this yr, as i'm visiting Bydgoszcz 4 the GP, that i'd try & follow the results each week online but never did i imagine that i'd get 2 watch so many meetings per week!!! There's at least 2 meetings each week on from the Ekstraliga as well as your terrific coverage of all Bydgoszcz's meetings. After watching a shocking meeting last nite at Belle Vue, it always amazes me how well the Polish prepare their tracks, especially when the meetings are in the afternoon as well!! Hats off 2 them all & as i say, just fantastic now that i can watch 2-3 meetings from Poland every week online as oppose to the one we get here on Sky Sports. Poland puts us 2 shame with their Speedway coverage so long may it continue!! Roll on September i say 4 the Polish GP & a weekend in Bydgoszcz!! Hopefully a promotion campaign as well as they are now my adopted polish team bearing in mind they always provide the best GP of the yr & the fact that i'm going there this yr & can see every one of their meetings as well!! Any chance of a certain Mr Gollob returning next yr if they get the top spot?? ps. did i read correctly that there is a meeting on May 2nd & May 4th??

Aye, its a decent meeting that one. Still think the league match v Gdansk last week was better tho & if ya havent seen that one yet then treat yourself to it as its well worth a watch!! Always amazes me that they get the tracks in such great condition with great lines on the fence & on the kerb for afternoon meetings when its notoriously difficult to do so!! It puts the track prep guys over in England to shame!! If i got racing like that every week i'd gladly dip in2 my pocket & pay 4 whoever looks after the track at Kirky Lane 2 fly over & see how they do it!!!

I agree with Steve, please get it up quick & restore my faith in the sport after the complete & utter dross i just witnessed at Belle Vue 2nite!! £20.00 down 2 the drain watching guys riding round as the word "racing" cud hardly be used..oh 2 be able 2 watch decent Speedway each week o a decent track instead of that drivel!! At least the Bydgoszcz stuff & the Ekstraliga website will keep me occupied between GP's!! If it was a bit cheaper & a bit easier 2 fly in & out of then i'd keep my £20.00 each monday nite in my pocket 2 put 2wards the Bydgoszcz home meets every fortnite!!

No worries. Dont forget 2 check out the Bydgoszcz site tho as ya still get decent riders in that Division that are decent. Last weeks meeting is worth watching just for the 2 clashes between Emil Sajfutdinov & Bjarne Pedersen. Great stuff!!

Click on www.itvp.pl Go on the orange bit on the left hand side of the page & tab down to Speedway Ekstraliga. If ya then go on the Wideo section across the top it'll give all the speedway meetings/clips on there at the mo.

Yeah & it doesnt get any better either!! Gonna try the Torun one now i think. Yep, on the website the older meetings are still on there. There was 3 from round two of the comp & one from round one that are still on there in there entirety as well as loads of other clips. Just click on the video section & they're all in there. However, best meeting i've seen was Bydgoszcz last week at home 2 v Gdansk. Good quality fast racing & loads of passing. Go 2 website www.itv24.com.pl which is going 2 be showing all of Bydgoszcz's meets this yr. Click on the picture of the meeting & enter username of lawrence & then a password of bkspolonia & enjoy!!

Nice 1. Cheers 4 that Steve. If i have probs in the future then i'll just follow ur instructions & hopefully be able to watch it without the buffering as its damned annoying!! Didnt reckon much 2 the Rzeszow meeting but will try the Torun one now i think

I would save yourself some time as the track was a disgrace here & the meeting was very poor. The riders were simply riding round & there was no real racing at all. Davey Watt was interviewed & said the track was a disgrace & that when ya get the likes of Jason Crump having to shut off going into the corners then that shows how poor a condition it is in. Managed to watch an hr of it before it beagan buffering really badly. Had it hooked up 2 my plasma which was annoying so flicked thru the rest of it on my laptop only. Incidently, i've watched all the Polish meetings on this site so far this season, as well as Bydgoszcz's from the 1st Division, & for some reason both the meetings from Rzeszow are pretty unwatchable due to constant buffering. Anyone else having the same problem with this?? Mr Shovlar - great post on how to download these meetings...after u have done this, do u find that this takes away the buffering or does it still happen?? If it does then i'll try & follow ur instructions so at least i can watch the meetings without them constantly sticking!!

Bit gutted as doing nowt this afternoon so looks like it'll have 2 be the snooker instead!! At least it'll be on there later on & i suppose when it aint live it shouldnt buffer so will keep away from here & anywhere where the result is & watch it as live later on!! Hopefully it'll be a decent meeting anyway..

Hi. Anyone mananged to get coverage of the Torun v Zielona Gora meeting yet?? Due to start at 3.30pm our time but all i get is a blank screen so far. It buffers & then gives me a msg in Plish before going back to the blank screen. anyone know how this can be rectified??

Just finished watching the Bydgoszcz meeting & all i can say is wow!! The racing was pretty fantastic in most heats & i really cant wait 2 get there now 4 the GP in September. Just hope 2 god that Ole Olsen doesnt prepare it 2 be as slick as possible to help his fellow Danes out cos it would be cheating the public out of some amazing fast close racing from the top guys. Not sure how they get the track 2 be so good in an afternoon tho cos every meeting i've been 2 over here that aint under lights tends 2 be slick & dusty so the track staff over there must be the business!! How good was Emil Sajfutdinov?? This guy looks some rider & its the 1st time i've seen him properly & he's so fast its scary!! If i was an Elite League promoter that'd just seen that, i'd be on the 1st plane out there with my chq book asking him 2 name his price!! Absolutely spectacular 2 watch, esp when he hangs off the side of the bike & surely a huge star in the making. While Elite League tracks may be quite different over here, he must have very fast equipment 2 get round Bydgoszcz like that so i'm sure he'd do the business over here. Chris Morton & the Belle Vue promotion, r u watching?!?! If not get hooked up online & get the chq book at the ready!!