June

Wanna......you and I are miles apart in our opinions regarding young british riders and opportunities given to Aussies at the expence of our own lads. I am not going into yet another debate, theres been so many and nothing much changes. I'm not against foreigners riding in our leagues but Aussies come in on lower averages than the Swedes and Danes thats why they get an advantage. I still think you are out of order to involve S. Worrell and Gary Irving in this thread, their inclusions in the PL has no bearings whatsoever.....As for the Mark Jones situation if he rides legally, no problem, but for goodness sake get your promoter to make a statement so we can move on.

Why quote 2 british youngsters who are having trials in the PL.....nothing to do with Visa's .....its their right and part of Scunny's develpement policy.

Sorry Squall.......... :) ..... So its a double header then on Monday. I'm sure Buxton will have a good guests....Lambert?

Rubbish and you know it........Buxton want to make the play-offs ( wouldn't all teams ) as Ive said befor I hope they win the league, but this meeting is held up because Buxton want their top riders out. Naturally thats what all teams would want, but sometimes its not possible. We've had to go without Buzz and Benji ( both Scunny top averages ) Sept 10th is getting a bit late for a double header. If you attended Scunny weekly you'd see that we have masses of kids- parents would think twice on coming with 2 meetings...its a long and dark evening at this time.

Read the Tim Webster thread.

Sounds as though NL promoters & BSPA should get to the bottom of these permits..... could be right what montie posted on another thread.

I was really looking forward to my visit to Peterborough. Not been there for years and yes it still is a lovely setting, but what a rip off- prog not worth £4 to sit in the stand £2. we paid it but after entrance fee this was over the top. Newcastle must have been disappointed in not getting through to the final. Rene Bachs E/F put them out of the final. My families disappointment was to to see Scunny not have a race off with Edinburgh to go through to the final....Quote from the prog.PAGE 18. "race-offs in the event of a tie in the semi finals" why advertise it like that to then do a count back? Same number of wins, more 2s for Edinburgh, but 2 x 0s for Edinburgh none for Scunny......A race off would have taken all of a minute and been much fairer. So Newcastle fans your not the only ones to be disappointed us Scunny fans suffer with you. Congrats to the winners!

No I will not "refrise" or "refrase".......Nor will I "rephrase" any of my previous post......hard luck if you do not comprehend!

Apology accepted Pirate Nick.......You know if I could only have one wish granted to do with speedway, it would be to see all our british youngsters get the opportunity to fulfil their ambitions in their chosen sport,be sponsored and able to represent their country. Seems many drop out and only the odd few make it. I take my hat off to you for sponsoring any youngster, whoever he may ride for ( just so long as he's british ) I'm old enough to remember the days of so many good brits like Peter Collins, Kenny Carter and many many more, and it was so much more exciting having our own to support, having said that please don't think I am against some foreigners because I'm not. We do need a certain mix for competition.

That was not my intention and I'm not even going to debate it with you.......I am 100% behind british youngsters and wish C. Cook all the luck in the world on reaching the top.

Stop Buxton winning the league......Never!!!! I'm hoping they do it and have said so on other threads. I think like Scunny they do loads to help bring on the youngsters and admire them for that. Scunny have won everything at N/L Level twice but not in with a chance this year..... Let it be the year for Buxton.....Good luck!

Thanks for that.....its me then not getting my head into gear. Never noticed it with the others......usually a N/L no 1 is a reserve in P/L like Scunny's J Hart.

Ive just been watching the updates, Redcar v Workington and it just doesn't seem right that C. Cook can be a No 1 in N/L and No 1 in the P/L. Is it me not getting my head round it properly?

Has buzz gone?

Yes suppose your right Jayne.......go out there and win the league....GOOD LUCK!

Buxton scared of Saints, surely not!.......C/L & N/L has always run without certain riders missing. probably because its a development league it appears to excuse riders who cant get off school or work, dad cant drive them, school exams, rider away, thats apart from doubling up or down, the list is endless.( they do have a squad ) however the youngsters get stuck in and cover missing riders like its part of the job. well Saints do anyway because we've had Buzz and Benji missing for reasons mentioned just recently. This is not a dig at Buxton, Ive already stated eleswhere that I'd like to see them win the league because like Scunny they have a policy for bringing on the brits.

Well I hope that Rye house do not make the play-offs for using an illegal rider ( Nelson ) against Scunny, yet have kept his points....disgusting!

Very sad news that Mildenhall has had to pull out of the league for 2010. As a longtime supporter of Scunny I know what that feels like, as Stags experienced the same...........Heres hoping for better in 2011 for all Mildenhall fans.....Good luck for the future!

It makes my blood boil......another british youngster out to make room for a foreigner......The only time our kids are going to get a look in is if the BSPA change the rules for next year.....I say all british kids for N/L and at least 3 brits in prem and 2 in E/L.....not a lot to ask seeing as it is british league speedway. Its us brits that pay to watch and its not fair for instance when the sky meeting the other night, not one brit.....hence I didn't watch. At this rate my speedway days are looking like coming to an end sooner rather than later.

Probably wouldn't work for Buxton as they aren't members of the "CROOKS CLUB"......Talk about corrupt!......Those in charge of this situation should hang their heads in shame. Rye house cheat and get rewarded with 4 pts. What an image for our sport. Time for a change in how the sport is run. We need people who are fair and not in it just for their own means,

How can it be legal and illegal.....Its got to be deemed one or the other. If its illegal, then Rye house should not get the 4 pts. What a farce!..... I suppose what actually happened is for L Silver to sign Nelson and slip him into the team at the last minute in a bid to pluck him from the grasp of Sheffield. Surely the BSPA know the rules regarding foreigners riding in our country, if not thats digusting!.....How is it justice that Rye house cheat and gain the points?

Oh I so agree with you montie........the above quote from Halifax tiger is ridiculous....how the hell can he know what our riders then were being paid........some folk claim to be so clever!.......This subject is becoming so repetative and boring.......As a supporter all I want to see is the speedy advance of our youngsters.......more so after attending the Cardiff GP yesterday. The only race which got us brits really excited was Tai's last race. That was awesome.........Cant everybody see that the standard of the brits is on the decline.........we must get our kids competative sooner rather than later or the brilliant event at ardiff will cease to interest many. certainly me. I'm fed up of saying I want to see the brits up there winning championships like they used to.......We have to find a way to run the N/L where both standalone and feeder clubs can work in harmony. Wake up to reality please......come on get behind the youngsters, whatever happened in the past is THEN we should all be pulling together for NOW.

Roger....I agree with you 100%....I live in hope that next year we have rules to suit stand alone and feeder clubs. and a level playing field for all riders, Like you I dont mind the Aussies, but have no interest in them at the expence of our british youngsters. The league is british, therefor our kids should have first chance of a team place.

Roger I think a lot of us agree with most of what your saying in your post. I firmly believe that sport belongs to the paying supporter ( without them it wouldn't exist)I'm not saying that all promoters do not think likewise, but some just work the sport for their own benefits and financial gain. Call it patriotic but my thinking is that sport of any kind is competative and we the fans attend to see our teams excell and especially when it comes to World competitions, like the world cup. We must start looking to put our youngsters first or in the very near future we will have no team GB and few turning up to watch competions with only foreigners in. Speedway is difficult to get started in because of the expence involved, but it seems promoters will go to any means to get Aussies in their teams. Its the british supporters who are paying at the turnstyles!!!!! As for Plymouth in the PL. you deserve that, but don't dispair the NL league is better. ( your in the best league )thats if it was run properley, the youngsters never stop trying.

Your doing your bit Nikko in trying to help the young british lads, like Rob Godfrey and a few others are........Keep up the good work!......People don't seem to realise these kids are bitish speedway for the future.