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Au contraire, the young Briton Bates elevated out of the reserve berths points to the system's success!

Steve, given that they currently have five Britons in the side (of varying ages, admittedly), that's perhaps a path down which you should not stroll.

How many, then, and of that number how many potential finalists?

Tai was on the British Final rostrum at Swindon and Poole when still in his teens and as has been pointed out numerous times -- and by numerous people -- has never been dominant at Monmore. Would you care to name these "several riders" who feel "cheated"?

Too obvious. Try harder.

You really struggle with this answering a question thing, don't you?

Presumably if he hadn't beaten them you would have posted more quickly...

Just to bring a little clarity here, Robert72, do you regard your proposed team (whichever one you're settling on for the moment) without Woffinden as "far better" from the standpoint of: Not in the British final then shouldn't have World Cup place; or: Will score more points?

Not arguing with that, but in the long term (if one can debate in such terms given the current worries over Coventry) Woryna could be something hot for the Bees. I quite accept that the focus of Coventry fans is naturally a lot shorter than that this season.

Once more in English?

True enough. The other joke is allowing them to build inflated averages which catapult them into a heat leader role for which they are wholly unprepared, thus undoing at a stroke any previously established gains in confidence. A poster on another thread, apologies for forgetting his/her name, suggested that such riders should be pegged at second string berths for now, a suggestion which seems IMHO to have merit although not without its own complications.

Yep, daft system, but hardly the fault of (as it happens 46-year-old) Karlsson.

Which format would you use for Team A v Team B when one side's reserve has moved up and the other's hasn't? Could be interesting!

Bjarne Pedersen? Sorry, just teasing.

Yeah, should have told Howarth to ride more slowly.

You genuinely don't see the moral issue of taking it upon yourself to decide what the views would be of someone no longer here to comment? Really? Then switch your conscience back on some time soon.

No business of yours and utterly irrelevant either way. Disgusting post. If you had any sense of shame or honour you'd remove it. Not that I'm holding my breath.

If by 'Rob' you mean Tai's late father, then you should be ashamed. By what right do you arrogate the ability to know what he might think about anything? What a disgustingly snide, putrid post that was.

I've most frequently heard the phrase "gating tart" said in jest when one of your own side's riders has surprisingly made one of his half-dozen decent starts of the season and clung on to win a race!

To be fair I frequently rise to the lure on certain other threads.

Every once in a while the trout could give the fly a miss, Steve!

I wasn't at the meeting, but caught some of it on the TV. Without prejudice, as the lawyers say, I found this tweet from Tai Woffinden interesting: "See the boys bouncing down the straight in heat 2 at lake side and people wonder why i don't ride in uk"

This could just be me, but perhaps a little irony is involved?

I suspect not. Lakeside are very, very good at home -- think that's seven wins now and no-one has got closer to them than 10 points. Caught a fair bit of the action on the TV and looked a really good meeting. Arena-Essex can be a much maligned track at times; would be interested to know what regular Hammers fans think of the quality of racing this year. I suspect these two aspects may not be unrelated!

It's not easy to assess an answer which so comprehensively fails to address the question. My inference, and feel free to correct it if inaccurate, is that you feel Woffinden should be forced to sign an Elite League contract with a club. You might run into one or two slight legal difficulties there, given the rule of law and the abolition of slavery. My sympathies with you concerning your recent memory loss; it does, however, shed a light on the quality of your posts.