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Getting hammered due to all sorts of bad luck shows way more integrity than taking a bung off some bent Poles and letting a rider go and ride somewhere else.

It might do to a degree, but at some point the Thursday tracks will need to race each other. At best you might get fortnightly meetings which, to be fair, would be an improvement to how it is now.

But at the moment Redcar ride every Thursday. Why would they want to move up and be handed a sporadic fixture list where they squeeze one match a month in and then do 12 home meetings in the last 6 weeks.

I don't think anyone doubts that we need to move forward. It is beyond any doubt that the UK speedway model is useless when faced with the challenges of fitting in around international speedway. The problem is, our stadiums are not club owned and are so outdated and run down that it's virtually impossible to find a way to move forward that suits everyone. You can't sell a professional sport in our stadiums. They are literally a disgrace, barring a handful.

I'm sure they will try it next year despite the obvious problems, but I fear that any club in either tier that is forced to move from a long established race night would end up in bother pretty quickly.

So we're already getting down to some of the issues faced just by having a discussion on here. You can imagine how easy it will be for the promoters to discuss this. I mean, they're well known for being sympathetic to each others business plan for the greater good of the sport aren't they!!?? I guarantee you that the team line ups a week before the season started would have you questioning if it was all worth it. I've sat and listened to top riders that have categorically stated that fixed race nights will not get them back here.

Yes, in the afternoon before the Speedway, which would be the same on a Wednesday. However, dogs don't run on a Tuesday at Monmore but they do on a Thursday, so Ladbrokes probably wouldn't be open to a switch to Wednesday's. Could Swindon change to a Monday easier than Wolves could a Wednesday if they have anywhere to ride next year? Would long established Thursday tracks in the second tier want to, or be able to, switch racenights? The people who think this a good idea are always the people who's club would be least affected by it.

But then Wolves will struggle to race in the top league and you'll be asking Sheffield, Ipswich and Redcar to move up or change their race night, otherwise you won't solve the Thursday doubling up issue. Couple that with the fact that many of the top riders wont ride here anyway as they don't want the expense and hassle of the extra machinery, van and mechanics that would need to be based here. It has no chance of succeeding on any level.

The irony of an ass hat, who is perpetually injured due to riding like a loony, coming out with a comment like that shouldn't be lost on anyone.

14/9/92 Gold Cup Final 2nd Leg Wolves 49 Reading 41 SS KOC 2nd Round 2nd Leg Wolves 45 Reading 45 Slow Saturday night!

Is this the right thread to start the discussion about banning Poles and Ekstraliga riders for 2018?

Any idea on correct riding order? The above doesn't match sportowe fakty.

Pawlicki lucky twice. Turned back into the rider in front of him twice!

Anything surrounding Poole speedway always smells a bit fishy. As much as we're all laughing out loud, part of the brain is still wondering what they're up to. Can't figure out how trimming averages and losing five straight at home and destroying your business would help in the long run, but I guess we'll see next year?

Not really an indication of Wolves financial position. Give it a year or two when Musielak is an established Ekstraliga heat leader and has a Swedish deal and he won't want to / won't be allowed to ride here, so the Robins will have an unusable asset.

I think the point that he and others are making is that the whole league is a complete shambles.

Relax everyone, he's fit to ride in Poland tomorrow.

Danish 5 man format?

Whether Peterborough are happy is irrelevant. The rules clearly state that missing a BSPA shared event results in a ban.

Depends how recent you mean by recent times. In EL era, Bradford 97 Ippo 98 Poole 03 and Coventry 07 would eat this Swindon team for breakfast. It's definitely the best Premiership team of recent times.

They don't have a choice re: banning him. It's mandated in the rule book that the 4s is a compulsory meeting. Missing it for any other reason than injury carries a 28 day ban. If they don't ban him, the rule book is worthless.

Christ, poor old Middlo. Probably having to put up with Holder and mummy's little soldier next year. Still, he's grimaced his way through Andersen being in the side for two years, so it'll probably be like a breath of fresh air to him.

Jack Thomas will give it more of a go than that pair of to$$ers.

He's no doubt been pressured into it by the bung from the Poles but made himself look an utter fool. Thing is, the rule book is quite explicit in stating that it has to be a ban for missing a BSPA event. Peterborough don't even have the right to excuse him from a BSPA event. How will they explain away the rules that will have to be circumvented to allow him to carry on riding for Poole?

I reckon they'll let him miss the away fixtures at Newcastle and Scunny and have no facility. Smashing for those two clubs, unless they get a cut of the Torun pay off? Another shambles, handled deplorably by rider, club and the association.