Shadders

Just left Hoddesdon where it's hammering down!!

Thanks both. I'll give it a go That's funny. We were going to get there early and eat at the Harvester, but we'll check that pub out first. Cheers!

That's a great shout, thanks. Does that work when leaving the EOES to head south on the A1?

Does anyone really think he'd put any real effort in if he'd had been riding tonight a few days away from Cardiff?Better off handing the rides around to those who want to race for us.

Is that the same excuse he used to try and get out of Rye House press & practice? Part of me hope we don't.... Riders swanning off to race on grass every other weekend, big time Charlie's not bothered about riding for us, wasted talents with crap machinery, promoters not listening to the wishes of the team and taking long time supporters and paying customers for granted. I'm rapidly losing patience with my speedway club. If the season finished tomorrow I wouldn't be bothered. Some may say our season finished weeks ago.

I'm not!!

Very soon the GP's and tarted up NL racing are all we'll have left

If Coventry were riding tonight....

Top post my good man

Absolutely. My offspring are now 21 & 16 respectively, and they used to kip in the car on the way home too. They were still often asleep when we carried them up from the car to bed. What's the problem?

It's the same for a number of clubs, just about hanging on in there. Give it a couple of years and 2 or 3, maybe more would've gone to the wall.

Don't get this talk of crowds being low because kids have to be up for school and adults up for work. For any locals, kids could still be tucked up in bed by 11pm at the very latest, so that's still around 7-8 hours sleep, that's plenty for a once a week meeting. Adults, get a grip. I manage to get to loads of away meetings, back sometimes at 1-2am and STILL up for work at 5. They don't go because they don't WANT to go. Rubbish. Live speedway over TV anytime. There's always the Sky+ facility. You can whizz through the chat and delays and watch the racing in around 20-30 minutes AFTER you've put the kids to bed and still be in bed yourself by midnight.

Easy to say when still basking in the glow of a massive away win. If the situations were reversed I'm sure the Workington threads would be full of irate Comets supporters demanding changes.

I presume you're a regular at Kent AJ. How are the crowds holding up and what's the general feeling around the place?

It's a crying shame that the successes of the mid to late 2000's weren't built on and the club and stadium has been left to rot. Kent supporters are getting fed up too. After a promising debut season the wheels have come off somewhat. Two heavy home defeats and a draw in the last three home meetings and some spankings away from home have left them languishing in mid table. With initial crowds the envy of most Premier League sides it looks like he's well on the way to ruining a speedway revival in Kent

Antonio Lindback

Edinburgh, Newcastle & Somerset are comparable to us in some ways with a similar size crowd base, but one thing they have that we don't is an ambitious promotion. They've managed to put together trophy challenging sides for a good few years now, whereas we've been on the slide since the heady days of the mid 2000's. All three of those clubs are professionally run, whereas you get the feeling that Rye House is run as a hobby. I'll use Somerset as an example as I've paid a couple of visits there in recent weeks. The race programme is full of adverts which must bring in decent revenue. The impressive club house has a proper bar and the food outlets are decent and always busy. All this in what was just a farmers field less than 15 years ago. Any delays in proceedings are filled with rider interviews. Rye House has the feel of a club that's winding down and the promoter seems not to be bothered, not even listening to his own riders as to how they'd like the track to be prepared. Utter shambles

Next to impossible to compare sides from year to year, let alone different eras. These topics usually appear during the winter when people are bored.

When it's deserved. Will you be there Mr Bolly?

Ben, you're beginning to make sense. That holiday has done you the world of good!!

Forget Brazil and the good chance we'll get thumped, I'll still be there

Easy to research if you put in some effort

They wouldn't even beat the Rockets 2005 PL winning side

Hazel gave me a free programme a few weeks ago when mine slipped through the boards on the start line terrace. Yesterday I saw her hand a young child a free programme.

Now I've had time to read this tripe properly I'd like to ask:Where have I ever criticised John? He has a next to impossible job, given a team of riders he more than likely didn't choose himself. I've no interest in discussing anything with you, unless you know the probable line up of next years side. Then I can decide whether or not to make other arrangements on Saturday evenings Never complained about the drinks, we don't buy any apart from a coffee now and again when it's cold. We don't eat there either as we only live 3 or 4 minutes from the track. We can eat at home thanks. I'm guessing you're related to one of the team, promotion or are a mechanic. Do you honestly believe that everything is hunky dory when you have supporters deserting in droves and people walking out long before the end of meetings? Get real!!