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Having now experienced various speedway tracks via the likes of sky and bet365 Why is it that all the tracks all seem to play the same stuff? I don't mean the music in between the heats but the music chosen for riders when they win a race or music for when a team gets a 5-1 or the music before the first race. Did the bspa simply say to all clubs here is a load of different songs, you must use these? Why cant clubs be more unique, the only exception i found is Davey Watt's heat winning theme ("David Watts" by the Kinks) How many riders for example have or have had Blink 182 "Girl at the rock show" as their theme? Everyone plays the same thing, no uniqueness, no imagination.

We have a lot of well meaning hardcore fans on here but unfortunately and this is not going to be a popular comment but thanks to a lack of order and moderation by those that run the site it has fallen to a level where arguments and abuse are the things which people outside the BSF associate it with, multiple aliases etc etc its no wonder that the BSF has become a dirty word especially to those who run the sport. There is so much wrong with British Speedway but the trouble is because the BSF is associated with a negative slant, promoters assume that any negative comment made on here is being made for the sake of continuing that negativity, i am sure most if not all people involved in running the sport don't read it anyway. The BSF is really the daily sport equivalent of a news paper stand and it might be too far gone for it to be turned around into a creditable voice of the people.

Kelvin said he has a look a track, hmmm sounds like they are in a studio though and probably not even in that country.

Excellent thread as its so easy to miss bits of action with so many sports channels around not too mention everything else, i have 12 sports channels and that does not even include sky sports F1 or or any of the horse racing channels etc

Here are some that spring instantly to mind. Sean Wilson Andre Compton Martin Dugard Richard Hall Andrew Silver Bjarne Pedersen Nicki Pedersen Josh Auty Cam Woodward

Wrestling is very much like speedway on sky tv in that results are predetermined before hand, all in the interests of whats best for business of course.

Can only see the situation we had last season getting worse with now the potential to have both reserves and maybe two out of the five main team riders being absent to ride for other clubs, record season for guests and rider replacement?

Not read through all the posts but want to touch on what White Knight said a couple of pages ago, he summed up my thoughts when i read the statement about these young riders no doubt going out to buy the best and fastest bikes they can and then racing above their level of ability and end up injurying themselves and possibly others. Not against the concept of pushing the younger riders but like everything with the bspa its always done in a way which suits them first and the sport second. One other thing, all very well having these new rules but whats going to be done to improve the match day experience? if meetings are still going to be long drawn out affairs on poorly prepared tracks with little or no entertainment then what is the point.

After the storms on Monday i wonder how many tracks have suffered damage and how many have been improved by it, by nearest track is Arena, no need to say which is the more likely outcome there then.

Would not be surprised if sky did have a problem with crowd levels at meetings they show, after all most sporting events are made to look better when there is a good atmosphere, a great race can only look so good if no one is there to see it and for the people at home tuning in its going to be a case of what is that? well there is hardly anyone there so it can't be that good, i will switch over. Said it once and i will say it again, the promoters got greedy, they took the money and ran instead of taking the ball and running with that instead.

Would like to make a comment on the point Arthur Cross made about where the next generation of promoters will come from. I immediately thought of the late great John Berry when he said that and about how back in the day someone young with vision was looked upon in a not too nice way by the powers that be! The bspa has always been a closed shop and it probably always will be, which is why you will never see an independant body in charge of the sport. But this is what the sport needs, younger minds with visions and the ability to think outside the bubble that the bspa have long been trapped in.

Lakeside have been getting decent crowds the last couple of months but nothing spectacular i would say but for the first couple of months and the 1st meeting in June when it was on sky the crowds were well down below what would be perceived as average. No idea of actual numbers but overall the pattern is not good because the drop off when the weather is not good or there is no kids a for quid deal is quite alarming.

Like others have said its down the promoters that the sky link up did not work, they had a great opportunity to show their product off but what did they do? The carried on making no more effort than normal to prepare tracks that would provide good racing and 95% of the time offer no incentive for people come to and watch rather than sit and home. Week after week after week, they just accepted the fact hardly anyone was going to turn up, it could not have bothered them too much otherwise they would be begging for sky to stay away as it costs them money. In short they simply took the money and ran and sod what happens in the future.

I always used to be keen on collecting programmes, there was a program I really would have liked to have got last season but they sold out and never done a reprint, I think being a lakeside fan you will all know the meeting I'm referring to. A few weeks back I turned up for a meeting a despite only a fairly average crowd they had sold out of programmes so I improvised and used my phone to keep track of results, in the end I figured what's the point in wasting £2.50 every time so now I don't bother, that's at least £35 a season the club has now lost. The trouble is programmes in general are a rip off and promoters rely on people wanting to collect them and refuse to publish team line ups to try and prevent fans making their own ahead of time.

Tac subs in the WTC are fine, Jokers are not and for the very same reason they should not be used in league racing but we all know the promoters will never get rid of them because its a way keeping scores artificially close without having to pay the riders more money.

Spot on Steve Brum, we go to watch Racing not this load BS, if this starts happening in league racing i would stop going tomorrow.

Exactly right Brummie it just goes to prove how much of a farce double points are, will Nicki be paid for coming 2nd thats the question?

Chris Gay got himself in a right mess with that heat but to be fair it did not help that the incorrect flag was shown to the rider in yellow, he was shown the chequered flag when he still had one lap to go having fallen earlier in the race, the ref actually robbed Shane Hazeldon of extra points because there is a small chance he could have got to the line ahead of Ben Holloway who was given 2nd even though he was 3rd when the ref incorrectly put the red lights on.

MJJ just F-Bombed again lol

These Polish team managers have a lot to learn from us when it comes to phone abuse, got to throw that thing down and follow it up with a curse word

who is this mickey mouse team we now have on

is it me or did Jensen just drop an F bomb

we wont be seeing a track like this tomorrow night thats for sure

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If they dont get rid of the joker they should at least rename it as right now it has "its a knock out" written all over it and makes some aspects of the sport look like a joke. But here is strange thing, your also allowed to use a tactical sub so why cant we go back to this in league racing if its good enough for the WTC?