Roger MARTIN

Semion the crowd is good for the NL, for the club to go up it needs some backing, i think the reason the crowds have fallen slightly is is because of the promise last year the team was going up, my feelings are if we can go up the missing supporters will come back, at present we are getting around 500 to 600 on a friday, when the club first started we were getting around a 1000 at the meetings,i think the missing people will come back with better speedway, thats just my feelings, i could be wrong, but that is most peoples opinions that go on fridays.

You have a good point Semion, but do Promoters and team managers think about the good of the sport when they put their teams together, i dont think they do, if and when Plymouth go up into the PL, i think you will see a much younger team,their is no reason why we cant have younger riders in the team now, i think Plymouth should be building a team to go up now, i think at least one of the older riders in the team will not go up with the team, and im not sure Mark Simmonds will go up,so where is the point in having them in the team this year,if the the aim is to go up next year, im hoping the team will be much younger, if we go up, but i cant see any in the team this year that are good enuff to go up.

Poeple come on and say that its ok to ride in the NL if your an Australian, what excuse will they make if they move up into the PL side, i cant wait to hear it, i bet if the rider was riding against Rye House and did the same, would they feel the same, i dont think so, they would be the first to moan.

Montie is spot on, i have no problem with these young Australian lads coming into the British league, but give them a cma that is right,now if the lad is on a 6 point assesed average like two faced RocketBen says, can anybody see him going into the PL on a 12 point cma, no way, it seems their is one rule for British lads and another for non British lads, it stinks to me, and who ever is running this should be very proud to see the way he is ruining the sport, he is a disgrace.

Ok Shadders i get your point, i dont agree with what RocketBen has said, he was the one who suggested a threat i did not, also he sided with one side when their was only two opinions, and not being their he had way of knowing anything about the situation at the meeting, i did not hear anyone after the meeting say anyone was lucky or unlucky, it was a good meeting right up to heat 15,and anyone who knows anything about speedway will know that if your going to say riders are unlucky, you will see lots of times during a meeting riders are unlucky, i think the person who made comments on the meeting will never say Plymouth deserved to win, and will allways look for the negatives when he watches Plymouth, we can all do that, and we can all have a go at the way any team is being run, has speedway supporters in Plymouth we should be lucky we have a team in Plymouth, and we should back the team, and thats the stance most that follow the team are taking, it may be hard after the promises that were made, but thats what we have to do, otherwise it will be gone if we dont,i admit that things got out of hand with Ben, and i should not have got the hump like Shadders said. i am sorry if anybody were upset at anything i said.

Scribbler thats how it started, talking about a speedway meeting,im not going to say another word on this matter, im a speedway fan that goes to Plymouth speedway, i also went to Exeter, people just jump on the bandwagon, that dont bother me, but the subject is finished now with me.

Maybe you should mind your own business,just worry about what you say, if i want your advice i will ask for it, and i wont be doing that, your another one who comes in on a post, when was the last time you started a subject, you and RocketBen are made for one another, i was making a comment about a meeting,i did not mention the club, just something in the meeting, you should try reading the post first before you have a go at someone, i suppose what Torpoitfanatic says about the club you agree with,its got nothing to do with you what me or anyone says, and im sure i wont listen to people like you,im not worried about doing the Devils any favours, i pay to go to the meeting, then when its finished i go home, thats it, where do the favours come into it, maybe when the club is honest with the supporters that might change,but until then favours are out,so you try counting to a million the next time you come on.

See your attacking the poster, i think your talking through the hole somewhere on your body, you dont need a spade.

If you say so, wasn't any threat in it, your the one who said about care, and your the one who keeps talking about threats.

You just got it from the man himself, you know something that everyone else dont.

So am i, thats not the kind of care i ment

Yes i would love to take care of you

And thats what i will do RocketBen, i cant wait to see your next post about Rye House

And what have you been doing, you have not been attacking me, who was the one to mention spade, i suppose that was me, you attack me and i will attack you, every past i see of yours i will attack it if i dont agree with it, is that fair, i will just attack the post.

I just tell it like it is joker, your another one who hides behind this site, i said come and say it to my face, i did not threaten him, and maybe the next time you come down we could have a little chat, or do you think that is a threat, i go the sba with my seven year old grandson on fridays and i talk to loads of people, i dont threaten people, if Torpointfanatic wants to have a talk face to face thats ok by me,you can look into what you like, its not a threat you muppet, and bring a spade next time you come to the sba, thats if you can lift one little man.

RocketBen you are the biggest comedian on the site, in a meeting you can pick up a lot of times you think a rider was unlucky, when the Plymouth team lost against the IofW, you could say losing Jamie Pichard early in the meeting was unlucky because at the time he was riding well, and that cost the meeting, and you could say in a lot of meeting at Rye House that in some heats a rider was unlucky, but thats in the nature of the sport, i could say that some Plymouth riders were unlucky in the meeting, but i wont, because it would only be my opinion, and in my opinion and the people around me did not think Kyle was unlucky,he got out of shape going into bend one in heat 13 and that was that, in heat 15 the man in charge said he did not get second place,you can believe who you like in this matter, but being a Rye House supporter you have taken Torpointfanatics word, i can live with that, but if he wants to say the things he has said, let him say it to me on friday if he goes to the meeting, and i dont say that in a bad way because i agree with most things he says about promises made, and having older riders in the team, when we should be giving young riders a chance, but when i say it, i say it to the person who it concerns, Mike Bowden, thats all im saying, anyway it was a good meeting on friday, Rye House have a good side, and i think they have a better chance than Plymouth to make the play-offs, in Marc Owen they have good improveing rider, and only Mark Simmonds could handle him on friday, thats my rant over.

Hope to see you down at the sba on friday Torpointfanatic, then you can say all this to my face, has i said before you talk a load of crap, i think if you look on the Devils site you will see im no blinkered, far from it, i have made the decision to back the team at Plymouth, thats my decision, its that or not go, and when i go to the meetings on fridays i talk to all the riders home and away, i dont agree with a lot of the things that go on at the club, but thats just my opinion, and one of my favorite riders do not ride for the Devils, but he will be their on friday and i will have a chat to him, Mike Bowden did make promises he did not keep but instead of moaning all the time about it try supporting the team, if not go and support someone else if your only going to say that teams could have won with a bit of luck when they come down, i know you like Kyle, i do to, but dont say he had bad luck when you are the only one to think he did, you are not the one to make decisions in a speedway meeting, you only have your opinion, that do not meen its a fact, just an opinion, i think Marc Owen was the best rider in the meeting, but thats just my opinion, your right i do know Mike Bowden but that has not stopped me from telling him to his face what i think, why dont you try that instead you hide behind this forum, i have a word for people like you gutless.

Its not all about luck, ita all about what the man or women in charge says, in heat 13 he said the start was ok, end of matter,anyway it had nothing to do with Kyle stopping after getting out of shape going into bend one, then throwing his arms up thinking the ref would bring it back because of his bad start, in heat 15 in my opinion and everyone around me did think Kyle got second on the line, but the man in charge said he did not, where is the luck in that, i have seen loads of races at the sba where in my opinion riders have jumped the start, and riders have got up on the line, for the home team and for the away team, but the ref said different, but thats just my opinion,you just get on with it, if you were their RocketBen whats your opinion,Rye House were never infront, and in my opinion the Devils deserve the win, if you want to stick up for Torpointfanatic then thats ok with me, but if i think anyone is talking a load of crap in my opinion i will say so, wheather you or anyone likes it or not.

How do you make that out Torpointfanatic, in heat 13 some you win some you lose, you dont get instant replay, its not the first time its happened and it wont be the last, the ref did not think it was a jump start, what you think about it dont matter,who says he would have won heat 13 anyway, the way he was riding i dont think he would have, and you say both heats were deciding factors, even if the ref gave Kyle second place in heat 15 it would not have made any difference,i suppose you did not see his two finger gesture did you after heat 15 to the crowd, the team had some good luck for a change, dont knock it, but thats what you do, you never praise the team when they win, only have a go when they lose, same old story, i agree about Marc Owen great talent one of the best i have seen at the sba, showed Kyle the way to win races around the sba, not just a great rider for his age but also has a very good style.

They cant be talking about Newports track being so bad, and me thinking that since the Mallets took over its been a lot better, someone is telling porkeys, its not they way to get people to go an watch Newport, i think there will be a few that wont be going back, i would think the basics for a speedway club, would be a good track, then you get good racing, seems like someone as got that wrong at Newport

If all a person can do is come on the site and have a go at a joung lad having a go in a sport that would scare most people to even try, then he as a very sad life, i watch these young lads at the sba in Plymouth, i think they are brilliant, Ben Morley when he came down with Rye House, was a joy to watch, so dont knock any of them.